Demonlord of Ashmouth
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Demonlord of Ashmouth

Creature — Demon

Flying

When Demonlord of Ashmouth enters the battlefield, exile it unless you sacrifice another creature.

Undying (When this creature dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.)

ShiningEyes on juggling the health

1 year ago

Hiya! So a couple things One, enjoy playing casual. There's no need to actively push to change your deck if you don't want to. Two, welcome! Mtg is a blast, and I've been playing over 20 years now.

Now into actual feedback.

In Mtg, there are a couple of balancing acts a deck needs to perform. One of the most challenging ones for a new player to embrace is the idea of a Mana Curve. This is a much-praised concept that effectively says you want to be doing something on most turns of the game, and that generally you want to be doing the best stuff you can in a turn. This deck is missing 1-mana cards, and is running a lot of 5-6 mana cards for a deck that isn't trying to stop your opponent along the way. Here's some budget, casual low drops that I think you might really enjoy! Lightning Bolt is a classic card, and due to some recent reprints is currently a bargain at about $.50 per copy. On the creature side, you might consider Vampire Lacerator, since you've listed your goal as making bigger creatures than your opponents. Or, if raw damage potential is of more interest, you might consider Night Market Lookout.

Your removal cards, currently mostly sorceries, have solid upsides and also cost a lot of mana. You might find more success looking for a nimbler option. To keep things casual and also really high-quality, consider Terminate. Or, if planeswalkers are a problem for you, consider the similarly inexpensive and quality card Hero's Downfall.

Another balancing act that decks perform is consistency vs. utility. The fewer cards that are the same or have the same effect your deck is running, the less likely your deck is to play the same way from one game to the next. That said, if you play a bunch of copies of the same card (4 is the limit in a typical casual 60-card format), your deck will get to do the same game plan each game, but is likelier to run into a wall if your opponent is doing something particularly good against your strategy. Currently, your deck is really high variability, which is generally considered frustrating in a 60-card format. If you love that concept, look into the Rules of Commander. It's a popular casual format that encourages variability by saying anything other than a basic land, you may only have one copy in your deck.

There's also the challenge of balancing a theme, sometimes also called a tribe. Some decks run the best cards they have available. Others try to build around a particular theme, and make that theme run as smoothly as possible. The up and downsides here are much like with consistency, where the harder you commit to your theme the more likely it is to work, but also the more likely you are to run into problems you can't solve with the tools available to you. Right now, the deck is a little scattered. For example, Maze Abomination is particularly good when a creature is two or more colors. But you don't appear to be running any creatures that are two or more colors, so its upside isn't very helpful. What you do seem to have is a budding Sacrifice theme, often known as Aristocrats, a nickname derived from the card Falkenrath Aristocrat. To lean a little harder into that theme, I might recommend looking at Body Dropper, a recent common to get some more reward for your sacrificing. Blood Aspirant is very similar. Butcher Ghoul is a great low-drop creature that can be sacrificed multiple times. Rekindling Phoenix Does a similar thing, but on a bigger, flying creature. Blazing Hellhound is a solid mid-sized creature with a pretty good upside. If you're looking for a big beater that can win games, consider something like Demonlord of Ashmouth or Titan Hunter. What's the downside to running a lot of sacrifice effects? Well, cards like Yasharn, Implacable Earth can really slow down your whole deck until you find that Terminate or similar. As a new player, I wouldn't worry too much about this. Play your theme, play it to your heart's content, and worry about how your opponent is going to stop you once you have some more games under your belt.

Welcome to the game! There's a lot you can learn. Try to have patience with yourself as you discover your own favorite way to build decks and play. Feel free to ask any questions you have.

wallisface on Black sac deck

2 years ago

LoTS I think going into 2 colors would help you for sure. Adding red would give you a LOT more power in those 2 red cards I mentioned earlier.

As to why the cards I mentioned are "bad":

  • Demonlord of Ashmouth is a lot of mana and doesn't really do anything other than kill a bunch of your own creatures. 4 mana is a LOT in modern, so anything costing this much needs to provide a huge amount of value (common 4 mana cards in modern include Bloodbraid Elf, Omnath, Locus of Creation, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician and Urza, Lord High Artificer, which can each single-handedly turn the tides of a game).

  • Mortician Beetle is just another creature that becomes bigger over time. But "becoming big" isn't particularly useful on its own, especially if it takes a long time to do so. On its own, it's just a vanilla 1/1 that your opponent mostly doesn't have to care about.

  • Typhoid Rats just doesn't do enough. Because it's a 1/1 deathtouch, it's basically resigned to sitting back to block for the entirety of the game (or swing for insignificant damage). It's not terrible, but its not doing anything particularly useful towards enacting your gameplan, so I don't see any reason why you'd want to run it.

  • Yahenni, Undying Partisan is effectively just a really expensive sacrifice outlet. It just can't compete against all the much more mana-effective sacrifice outlets out there (Carrion Feeder, Viscera Seer, Goblin Bombardment), so it's just a case of it being too slow at what it does and there being better cards for the job

  • Dreadhorde Invasion is just a very weak Bitterblossom. Bitterblossom is great because it lets you go-wide, creating multiple creatures (and those creatures importantly have evasion). Meanwhile, Dreadhorde Invasion puts all your eggs in one basket, that takes a lot of time to become big enough to matter. The amount of damage you can deal with this card is often very close to the amount of life you lose from having it in play.

  • Whip of Erebos 4 mana card that does almost nothing, which then costs another 4 mana to temporarily resurrect a thing... it's all just too mana-costly - paying 8 mana to get a single creature back for one turn is faaar too slow and clumsy.

  • Profane Command, like the Whip above, just costs too much mana to be of any practical use.

As for your decklist, I would think something like the following could be a strong direction to take it:

wallisface on Black sac deck

2 years ago

Some thoughts:

multimedia on The Undying

2 years ago

Hey, nice casual budget version, but are undying creatures other than Mikaeus and Flayer really worth it?

Consider more enablers to get +1/+1 counters on your creatures?

If you're going for an attacking strategy then consider a few more fliers that have some added value when they die or when they ETB?

Bloodtracker + Sword of Hours is a nice interaction. Some sac outlets are helpful to sac creatures who have counters to get their die or ETB triggers.

You have several high CMC creatures here, more reanimation and enablers could help.

Olivia, Mobilized for War is a +1/+1 counter enabler and an enabler for reanimation.

Some cards to consider cutting:

Good luck with your deck.

osiczym on Undying Retribution

3 years ago

Really great idea! I would definitely recommend Plagued Rusalka as a great Sac Outlet. Or Demonlord of Ashmouth as both Sac Outlet and Undying creat

Maybe you will like Gleancrawler too or Quest for the Gravelord which will release the token quick

Snap157 on The Black Sacrament

3 years ago

Maybe Pawn of Ulamog? It gives everything a death trigger, and spits out tokens that can be sacrificed on command whenever you need mana, puts loads of counters on Mortician Beetle (at instant speed!), gives tokens that are Morbid triggers on command, and even provides a guaranteed two bodies to sac when cast. It seems like it does everything this deck wants to do, and so I would personally take out 1x Demonlord of Ashmouth, and 3x Tribute to Hunger, to add in four.

Tribute is good and gains you life, but you already have a lot of targeted removal and it can be sided in against decks with hexproof/shroud/indestructible. Demonlord is good but it's also high on your cmc curve.

On the topis of removal, you will probably be triggering morbid enough to consider a couple Tragic Slips to replace some sorcery speed removal. Hope this helps, this is a really cool build! +1

dadragonman on Budget Torpor Orb

4 years ago

add Demonlord of Ashmouth

triproberts12 on Despicable Me: Rakdos and his Minions

5 years ago

I like the changes! Looks like a solid deck. The last thing I would do to tune it is look at the bottom end of the curve. Gibbering Fiend and Pilfering Imp are cute, but now that you've removed your token producers, you'll have a tough time feeding Demonlord of Ashmouth , Eater of Hope , Xathrid Demon , Shadowborn Demon , and Infernal Offering . You've still got some cards that care about going wide, like Torrent of Souls , Hellrider , and Skirsdag High Priest .

The rate on Hordeling Outburst is good. For a reanimator deck, Skirk Ridge Exhumer , Cryptbreaker , Call the Bloodline , and Silversmith are also good. At the top end of the curve, Abhorrent Overlord could also warrant consideration. Also, in the land slot, if you feel your manabase is good, I like Kher Keep . Speaking of the manabase, Urborg Volcano and Tresserhorn Sinks are better in your deck than Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse . Rix Maadi, Dungeon Palace is a good utility land for reanimator. Also, Pyramid of the Pantheon and Molten Slagheap are real bad. Myriad Landscape is miles better.

My favorite low-curve option for pumping out bodies is Hanweir Garrison . Hanweir Battlements would be a sweet addition, as well, and I think it's better in this deck than Hammer of Purphoros . You don't really want to be taxing your lands with a deck full of 5+ drops, and I could say the same for Underworld Connections . It looks like a budget Phyrexian Arena , but it's really not. You're pretty good on card draw at this point, but if you really feel the need for another source, Night's Whisper is a clean, solid option.

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