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Demonlord of Ashmouth
Creature — Demon
When Demonlord of Ashmouth enters the battlefield, exile it unless you sacrifice another creature.
Undying (When this creature dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.)
Demonlord of Ashmouth Discussion
6 months ago
I like the changes! Looks like a solid deck. The last thing I would do to tune it is look at the bottom end of the curve. Gibbering Fiend and Pilfering Imp are cute, but now that you've removed your token producers, you'll have a tough time feeding Demonlord of Ashmouth , Eater of Hope , Xathrid Demon , Shadowborn Demon , and Infernal Offering . You've still got some cards that care about going wide, like Torrent of Souls , Hellrider , and Skirsdag High Priest .
The rate on Hordeling Outburst is good. For a reanimator deck, Skirk Ridge Exhumer , Cryptbreaker , Call the Bloodline , and Silversmith are also good. At the top end of the curve, Abhorrent Overlord could also warrant consideration. Also, in the land slot, if you feel your manabase is good, I like Kher Keep . Speaking of the manabase, Urborg Volcano and Tresserhorn Sinks are better in your deck than Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse . Rix Maadi, Dungeon Palace is a good utility land for reanimator. Also, Pyramid of the Pantheon and Molten Slagheap are real bad. Myriad Landscape is miles better.
My favorite low-curve option for pumping out bodies is Hanweir Garrison . Hanweir Battlements would be a sweet addition, as well, and I think it's better in this deck than Hammer of Purphoros . You don't really want to be taxing your lands with a deck full of 5+ drops, and I could say the same for Underworld Connections . It looks like a budget Phyrexian Arena , but it's really not. You're pretty good on card draw at this point, but if you really feel the need for another source, Night's Whisper is a clean, solid option.
6 months ago
If you're going to build a deck as cheap as $30, you're probably going to have to lean on a theme to make it functional. That can be supplemented with the fact that even mediocre demons and devils are good at not being coin-flipped away, but stuff like Dance with Devils wasn't even playable in Limited.
I see some reanimator stuff going on, so if you go that route, Torrent of Souls , Zombify , and Profane Command are all solid budget options. You'll want some graveyard stocking power to go with it. Mindwrack Demon , Extractor Demon , Archfiend of Ifnir , pull double duty. Cathartic Reunion , Dark Deal , Faithless Looting , Hazoret's Monument , Khorvath's Fury , Collective Defiance , Shattered Perception , and Tormenting Voice all fit the bill.
Also, Flayer of the Hatebound could power a nice subtheme with your reanimation, and you can stock up on cheap Undying creatures like Demonlord of Ashmouth , Hound of Griselbrand , and Pyreheart Wolf to lower your budget and synergize with Rakdos. Charmbreaker Devils could also be a house once you stock the yard.
Also, maybe improve general card quality by splurging on Bloodgift Demon and Demon of Wailing Agonies ? Demon's Horn , Carnage Altar , Rakdos Riteknife , Devils' Playground , Dance with Devils , Consume the Meek , and Rite of Belzenlok , Archdemon of Greed , Temple of the False God , Tomb of Urami , and Kindly Stranger Flip are all pretty bad. Akoum Refuge and Bloodfell Caves seem like easy adds, as well.
8 months ago
I remember playing something like this when I first got into magic back in Innistrad, so i think I can help you out.
I don't know how competitive you want to make this so i'll just try to improve the list based on your strategy and won't change the theme of the deck. First things first, let's trim your list a bit, you have a bunch of 2 and 3-ofs instead of playsets of the stuff you really want (4x Doomed Traveler, 4x Lingering Souls, 4x Demonic Taskmaster).
Second, I would cut the stuff that has synergy with the deck but don't really help you win the game (Unruly Mob, Thraben Doomsayer) and things that are way too expensive. Ravenous Demon Flip is sweet but not so much when you have 3 of them in your hand along with some Reaper from the Abyss. So I would cut reaper completely, cut Ravenous Demon Flip to 2 at most, and cut Increasing Devotion (5/10 mana is too much).
Now we start upgrading some things. For 1-drops, we just got a good one in guilds of ravnica for this style of deck in Hunted Witness, so I would definitely play that alongside Doomed Traveler. Demonlord of Ashmouth is really good in a deck like this, and he's the demon I would likely run instead of the 5 and 6 mana ones.
Lastly, we need interaction. Orzhov Charm is a good choice, you can use it as removal, to save one of your demons or bring back one of your 1-drops for extra fodder. Tragic Slip is a great removal option here, since you're saccing your own stuff all the time it's basically a 1 mana Murder. I probably wouldn't even play card draw in this deck, but if you want to play it go with Altar's Reap, its instant speed and can help trigger morbid for slip and high priest.
I know your manabase is super budget but i would highly recommend Caves of Koilos, it's dirt cheap and it's gonna help a ton.
I'd play something like this: 4 Hunted Witness, 4x Doomed Traveler, 3x Skirsdag High Priest, 4x Demonic Taskmaster, 2x Xathrid Necromancer, 4x Demonlord of Ashmouth 4x Gather the Townsfolk, 4x Lingering Souls, 4x Orzhov Charm, 4x Tragic Slip 7x Plains, 4x Scoured Barrens, 8x Swamp, 4x Caves of Koilos.
Combo: T1 Doomed Traveler (or Hunted Witness), T2 Skirsdag High Priest, T3 Demonic Taskmaster, T4 sac Doomed Traveler to Demonic Taskmaster to trigger morbid, tap the token, taskmaster and high priest to make a 5/5 demon!
That's it, i hope it helps!
9 months ago
Abhorrent Overlord, Archfiend of Despair, Bloodgift Demon, Demon of Catastrophes, Demon of Wailing Agonies, Demonlord of Ashmouth, Doom Whisperer, Harvester of Souls, Indulgent Tormentor, Krav, the Unredeemed, Overseer of the Damned, Ravenous Demon Flip, Razaketh, the Foulblooded, Silent-Blade Oni, Xathrid Demon
9 months ago
This is a good start. I feel like you are starting to look at cards the right way- assessing how to balance their disruptiveness and value, but the deck still feels a little unfocussed.
Lets look at a core concept in magic- card advantage- and build to that.
There are enablers; cards that don't do things on their own (lands, ramp spells, combo pieces, most 1/1s, etc). Proactive cards that are very good when your play them on their own (kitchen finks type stuff, planeswalkers) Reactive cards that are good at trading 1-for-1 with proactive cards (mana leak, fatal push), Card advantage spells (things that mean you effectively have more cards played, even if they don't always read 'draw a card'.)
If you have more relavant answers than your opponent has proactive cards, then they'll mostly find it difficult to hit you. If you have more playable proactive cards than your opponent you'll probably be able to race them. If you have cards that slot into multiple categories in useful ways, you have virtual card advantage, and can pick the appropriate approach for the particular matchup. These are the core concepts that you need to build midrange.
Lets look at what your deck wants to do. A build around Demonlord of Ashmouth and Demon of Catastrophes, with enablers in the form of small creatures and ramp spells, and a few spot answers with light card advantage tools to clear the way. You're prepared to give up cards to demonlord of ashmouth or demon of catastrophies to have a big threat hitting your opponent. This is a really good start that the rest of your deck should build to support. A big threat that goes over aggro and fights through answers.
So general principals- you want enough card advantage to offset your enablers, or to make those enablers useful in other ways. You want enablers that also help you race down other decks with big flying demons. And you want tools to protect those demons.
Budget lists can't afford the 'universally good' stuff, like Collective Brutality or Cryptic Command, so you need to look at larger groups of teir 2 cards with good synergy and large print runs, preferably with deckbuilding restrictions that cut the price further. So lets cover some general options, explain the why, and then leave you to find things to fill out the list.
You want things that make small creatures and make these big things easier to cast. Llanowar Elves(price listing on this is busted) and Elves of Deep Shadow will let you cut the land count some- and they'll let you slam a big demon earlier whilst providing a body to sacrifice. Turn 1 extra mana is strong enough for people to spend their lightning bolt on it- and thats one more thing not pointed at the threats.
While Sylvan Caryatid is a great card, spending an extra mana to 'blank' a removal spell with hexproof is less relevant when your big stuff doesn't also blank removal, and likely isn't worth the extra mana (its great when your threats are stuff like enchantments or combos which are hard to disrupt).
Scavenging Ooze should be maindeck- its a graveyard meta, and its a decent body that likes you sacrificing creatures, lifegain is relevant, and even against decks that play no creatures it hits their snapcaster targets. Its both a threat and an answer. Cards that give you lots of options are good.
Cards that let you play with +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters are good in sacrifice lists- much like Gavony Township makes Kitchen Finks nigh-unkillable, Cauldron Haze and cards like Exemplar of Strength or Hapatra's Mark/Heartmender/Nest of Scarabs with Young Wolf and Safehold Elite or Black Sun's Zenith can really put in work. You just need to be sure to pick cards that all work well together. While individually they are worse than high value cards, as a group they can outperform- and most importantly, choose them to be versatile.
A card that gives an aggressive and defensive option is perfect for midrange. When building the spine of your deck, look for groups like this to fill it out. Having interseting choices makes the game fun.
Most of all, playtest, and have fun playing. Because thats how you get a top-notch deck. I'd take a look at Rite of Belzenlok decks in standard right now, they showcase a lot of the tools you'll be looking for, and its a good card for the archetype (even if its a little slow).
10 months ago
First of all, I love your brews, they're an excellent source of inspiration for those of us building in the confines of a budget. Secondly, here are some cool potential additions; Blood Funnel, Demonlord of Ashmouth, Whisper, Blood Liturgist, Torgaar, Famine Incarnate, Krav, the Unredeemed, Genesis Chamber, and Thopter Assembly (for tokens).
11 months ago
I am trying to build a casual sacrifice/demon deck.
I need help trimming the deck and keeping the deck in it's "theme", while it still works and it's fun.
Any help appreciated :)
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