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Liliana, Heretical Healer
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, exile Liliana, Heretical Healer, then return her to the battlefield transformed under her owner's control. If you do, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield.
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Liliana, Heretical Healer Discussion
3 days ago
Gonna go out on a limb and say Liliana of the Veil is just going to be an expensive Doom Blade most of the time due to her not getting her ult off. And without even having Red Madness Vampires or a few grave-based cards (Excluding Driver of the Dead) to take advantage of her +1 Discard effect, it could be hard to even get her to 6 Loyalty without her being targeted. I'd also look at some 1 drops like Guul Draz Vampire, Pulse Tracker, and/or Shadow Alley Denizen so you can have some immediate pressure (Excluding Thoughtseize).
If you really want to include a Planeswalker though, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip/Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip or Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath might be good includes. On flip, Liliana gives you a zombie token and her -X ability can return a desired creature back to the field first turn (Plus she can be flipped by any way your creature dies, so sac away). Ob Nixilis -3 can summon a 5/5 flying demon when he comes out, at only the cost of 2 life. These give different effects though, whereas Liliana of the Veil fits a very specific niche of sacriifcing getting around specific abilities and isn't always important. not to mention if they have multiple creatures they can just sac the least important one.
3 days ago
lamogio: It is hard to argue with adding Chromatic Lantern as another rock. I will have to see if I can fit it in. I think I just have to try out the deck first before I move my mana base around to much.
CaptSillva: Thank you for the suggestions. Do you have a Scarab list yourself?
Necromancer's Stockpile is fairly interesting. It if you have a easy way to reanimate, there is no real downside here.
From Under the Floorboards: At first glance, three creatures for the price of one card seems ok. However, this is pretty back if you stop and think about it. However, people will argue the Madness ability makes it worth including... but just look at Army of the Damned. 8cmc = 13 creatures. Floorboards says 8cmc = 5 creatures... Pretty bad, even compared to flashback Army of the Damned. This card is to situational, and kind of lackluster.
Liliana's Mastery is not bad, but I would rather stick with creature Lords that I can reanimate.
Thank you again for the feedback! Don't forget to +1 if you like the deck!!!
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1 week ago
proabis I would love to run a Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip but she is a little bit too pricey for me, i have a Path to Exile & a Swords to Plowshares but i don't like them, maybe l8er, but for now I'm quite doubfull.
Sun Titan & Ashnod's Altar have a place in this deck, but idk if Sun titan will do the work, I don't have a lot of 0-3mana drop, and 50% are sorcery/instant & for ashnod, i don't have any "Big drop" that will cost me an arm, but i sure need more Sacrifice outlets!!
1 week ago
This is my first time building and I need help
I picked Queen Marchesa for my commander (love the art) but I have no idea what direction to take with the deck
I went on edhrec.com to check what cards I could use with her and I found out I have a few cards from the list but I don't know what else to add in
there's 3 cards that weren't in the list but I will keep in here for sentimental value
If it's possible I would like to stay in a ''budget'' version of the deck because I can't spend a lot on cardgames right now (I own every cards in the list so I didn't have to buy any of them) but right now my budget would be around 100$ to finish the deck
1 week ago
Liturgy of Blood, Index, Extinction, Dimir Cluestone, Jace Beleren, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Returned Reveler, Returned Centaur, Indulgent Tormentor, and Elusive Tormentor Flip could all be cut for better cards. I'm glad to see your CMC for the deck is low, but most of these cards have better versions. You already have the good Jace in here, Liturgy can be removed for Go for the Throat, Indulgent can be taken out for either Bloodgift Demon or Archfiend of Depravity. I don't see how Lili, heretical healer and Elusuve Tormentor help your deck, and Extinction seems too narrow.
3 weeks ago
I can only suggest making the discard spells cheaper - high mana cost discard is pretty much useless because at the time when you are able to cast These spells, player's won't have that many cards left anyway. What's also great is some sort of constant discard, as you already have in the form of Oppression and Cunning Lethemancer
I would rather play Chain of Smog, Hymn to Tourach, Thoughtseize, Delirium Skeins, Mind Twist, Liliana of the Veil, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Bottomless Pit, Necrogen Mists...to use madness better I can recommend Anvil of Bogardan
I black I also like to play Dark Confidant, Dark Tutelage and Phyrexian Arena. You've got to take the risk with your high mana costs though. Doesn't matter much if you have stuff like Sorin Markov or Pox to drastically reduce your opponent's life total as well.