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Liliana, Heretical Healer
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, exile Liliana, Heretical Healer, then return her to the battlefield transformed under her owner's control. If you do, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield.
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Liliana, Heretical Healer Discussion
4 hours ago
A friend of mine is going through a bit of a rough stretch. Her mom pretty much cut all ties with her-- kicked her out of the house, kicked her off the insurance, cut her off the cell phone plan, will not help her pay for college anymore; and to boot, she was recently diagnosed with a heart defect and narcolepsy. She does not have much of a support network in the area, so she is also moving half way across the country in a few months to live with a few friends in Portland. I have a lot of cards I do not need or really play with often. As such, I figured I might help her out by selling some of my collection and passing on the proceeds to her to help pay for some of the moving, medical, and daily living costs.
All cards are NM or LP unless otherwise stated. What I have for sale is:
1x Promo Griselbrand -- $10
2x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet -- $16 ea.
4x Grave Titan -- $5.50 ea.
4x Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas -- $15.50 ea.
1x Keranos, God of Storms -- $4
4x Time Sieve -- $10 ea.
2x Anafenza, the Foremost -- $3 ea
1x Abrupt Decay -- $5
2x Ajani Vengeant Duel Deck Foil MP -- $4.50 ea.
4x Falkenrath Aristocrat -- $2 ea.
2x Olivia Voldaren -- $5 ea.
1x Deathrite Shaman -- $2
1x Swords to Plowshares Revised -- $1.50
1x Enlightened Tutor Modern Masters -- $8
4x Yosei, the Morning Star -- $4 ea
4x Baneslayer Angel (2 are From the Vault Foils) -- $6 ea
4x Reveillark Foil -- $15 ea
4x Archangel of Thune -- $17 ea
1x Arid Mesa (ZEN) -- $35
4x Flooded Strand (KTK) -- $10 ea.
4x Hallowed Fountain (RTR) -- $5 ea
1x Sunken Ruins -- $12
1x Flooded Grove -- $14
1x Plateau Revised -- $35
1x Taiga Revised -- $48
1x Savannah Revised -- $52
4x Urza's Mine (MP/HP) -- $0.75 ea
4x Urza's Power Plant (MP/HP) -- $.75 ea
4x Urza's Tower (MP/HP) -- $1 ea
1x Eternal Witness -- $3.50
3x Kalonian Hydra -- $3.50 ea
4x Primeval Titan -- $5 ea
4x Noble Hierarch -- $42 ea
1x Batterskull Promo -- $12
1x Void Winnower -- $1
2x Karn Liberated -- $40 ea
1x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon -- $30
3x Wurmcoil Engine 2 Promo, 1 Pack Foil -- $15 ea
1x Cyclonic Rift -- $4
1x Jace, Architect of Thought Duel Deck Foil -- $1
1x Misdirection -- $1
4x Muddle the Mixture -- $1.50 ea
4x Phantasmal Image -- $5 ea
2x Vendilion Clique -- $21 ea
I am willing to haggle a bit on price if you want. I did try to price them a bit below MP TCG low. I accept cash or Paypal gift. Pictures of cards available upon request. Any questions, just ask! :)
18 hours ago
Important question: do you have the budget for 3 Dark Confidant? That card is god tier. No honestly that card is Bolas tier. Bolas if he ate Emrakul tier.
An Idea I've been very curious about for a while is playing Grixis Delver as a softcore human tribal and abusing Cavern of Souls. Think about it, Delver of Secrets Flip, Young Pyromancer, Monastery Swiftspear, Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Dark Confidant, Stormchaser Mage, Grim Lavamancer, Snapcaster Mage, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip are ALL humans.
20 hours ago
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1 week ago
I really do like the Chrome Mox here and I agree that Rakshasa Deathdealer and Duskwatch Recruiter Flip are not ideal if you want to go for the maximum tempo route. Whatsoever, Mesmeric Fiend and/or Brain Maggot do not hit hard enough as well. I'd say it's better to cast a 2-mana threat that might be removed than a 2-mana 1-power guy stealing one removal but dealing no damage. I'd suggest bringing in Bloodghast and/or Shriekmaw, especially when playing with Carrion Feeder and Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip. Besides, you might probably think about cutting the two swords, as they are pretty damn slow.
Just some thoughts and ideas from my side.
1 week ago
Hey, your list looks pretty good, well done! When looking at your curve, it appears that the only turn 1 plays are your Inquisition of Kozileks, so I'd recommend adding a few 1 drops. What I would do is cut 1 Blood Artist, and 1 Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip (3 isn't ideal with the legendary rule) for 2 Thoughtseize. Thoughtseize will help you against combo decks and make for extra turn 1 plays, something very useful for keeping the pace with aggressive decks even with the loss of 2 life. Next, I'd like to recommend that you swap out 2 of your Sign in Blood for 2 Night's Whisper, as Night's Whisper is easier to cast (although note that you can't target your opponent with Night's Whisper to deal damage like Sign in Blood could, so if that matters a lot to you, ignore this suggestion). I also think that the new card coming out in Aether Revolt, Fatal Push, would do wonders here if you could manage to get 3 copies. If you could, I'd add the 3 Fatal Push and take out 1 Sign in Blood and 2 Victim of Night. If you have your doubts about how to trigger Fatal Push, cracking a fetch to get a swamp and then using Fatal Push is the easiest way to reach the revolt trigger. Anyway, good luck with the brew!
1 week ago
@lanfeara I've considered Winter Orb a bit. The biggest issue I have with it is that Meren tends to be pretty greedy on mana. Even with an abundance of dorks and mana rocks, Orb still ends up hurting me almost as much as the average cEDH opponent. Root Maze runs into the same issue.
Elvish Visionary is better in decks that can use her to her full potential, IE any Elfball build or Animar. In Meren, she's pretty low-impact. The card draw is nice, but we have better engines.
Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip sat in the maybeboard for a long time. LotV has been a great card in the list. What ultimately led me to decide not to include the Flip Walker was her consistency. She was extremely low-impact as a creature, and it was difficult to consistently flip her within a turn of casting her.
@Nic44: I'm flattered! Glad to hear I was able to help. As for Winding Constrictor, I agree it seems too win-more. While there are many cards run that synergize with her, Meren herself isn't a critical part of the deck. I only end up casting her 60-75% of the games I play her. Often you're going directly for a quick kill with Buried Alive or Survival of the Fittest and don't need her. We don't run many counter-based creatures or artifacts. Thus Constrictor's main upside is generating extra Experience counters, which is very rarely a priority. It seems like a better fit for a casually built Atraxa, Praetors' Voice than a tuned Meren deck.
1 week ago
If you are looking for a win-con look no further than Mike and Trike, or you can add Woodfall Primus for infinite land destruction. Also the upcoming Walking Ballista from Aether revolt will add redundancy the mike and trike combo. There is also the Necrotic Ooze, Phyrexian Revoker, Triskelion combo. Any of these are popular in meren decks.
In more detail, you should have Merciless Executioner, Skinrender and Bone Shredder for redundancy with Fleshbag Marauder. If you feel like you need fog effects consider replacing Fog with Spore Frog. If you want planeswalkers, you should consider the flipwalkers in B and G. Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip is a star in Meren and Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip is no slouch either. Also, Krosan Grip is strictly better than Naturalize. Finally, instead of Butcher of Malakir you should have a copy of Grave Pact and a copy of Dictate of Erebos. Seriously consider adding Phyrexian Altar, Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Tower and Diamond Valley to add to your sacrifice outlets.
You are welcome to come take a look at my Meren list, even though it is tuned for duel commander, it can certainly give you some ideas as to what creatures you might want to add. Pay special attention to creatures that do things when they enter the battlefield and of course, if you have lots of great ETB effects, you can always add Panharmonicon to double them