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Liliana, Heretical Healer
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, exile Liliana, Heretical Healer, then return her to the battlefield transformed under her owner's control. If you do, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield.
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Liliana, Heretical Healer Discussion
6 hours ago
First thing that comes to mind is dredge. Since both are replacement abilities for a draw, you can always dredge your Grave-Shell Scarab, or Greater Mossdog but your opponent could not. Sure, they could cast them, but as soon as it died, you'd dredge it, and it'll never be theirs again. Another card along the same lines, is Eternal Scourge; the opponent could play it, but it'll get exiled, and it'll become yours (style points for dredging Darkblast to remove it).
The Ahmonket block gave us some interesting options, with, for example, Adorned Pouncer and other Eternalize cards. The opponent could play it as a 1/1, but, once it dies you'll bring it back as a 4/4. There are also the Aftermath cards, where under the Shared Fate they'll be able to play the first half, but not the second. Sure, the opponent could Farm away one of your creatures, but in doing so, he gives you the option to Market, and make up some of the lost value. I'm not sure how many of those you'd be interested in, since the second effects are usually less spectacular.
Since you can't use the Suspend ability if the card isn't in your hand, those cards are also generally unavailable for use from under Shared Fate. Something like Ivory Giant would be so awful it would only be hardcast by a very desperate opponent, but could be ok if suspended. And, the suspend-only cards like Lotus Bloom, would be entirely unavailable to the opponent.
Then, there is the Origins cycle of planeswalkers, which return under your control once their condition is met. The opponent wouldn't ever use the ability of Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip to voluntarily meet the condition, thus making him more valuable for you. But you can force an opponent's Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip to flip by killing one of their creatures-they'll get a 2/2, but you'll get a planeswalker.
Maybe one of these will find a place in your deck?
1 week ago
Nice deck. I just recently started my own with Marchesa but the tribe is demons instead. I found a great interaction with her if you have a sac outlet and her and all the critters you sac have +1/+1 counters you then play Apocalypse. There are some other options that are effectively the same but apoc is probably the best and all your critters come back afterwords. Also seems worth pointing out that Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip's emblem and Lifeline perform similarly to Marchesa. Personally not using Lifeline since it hugs everyone but the emblem seems worth trying to get to. Anytime you do get to it you have your commander for the rest of the game.
1 week ago
I almost got this wrong because I forgot the rules changed sometime over the past few years. The card in your example would stay in exile.
711.8a If a player is instructed to put a card that isn't a double-faced card onto the battlefield transformed, that card stays in its current zone. This is a change from previous rules.
Now that I think about it, the rule probably changed when Magic Origins was released to prevent some silly infinite combos with copies of the "baby planeswalkers" that the old version of the rule would have allowed.
2 weeks ago
Since I have already created threads that list commanders and planeswalkers by home plane, I shall now create a thread that lists legendary creatures who have appeared in core sets by home plane.
As with my previous lists, I shall first list the planes known to be home to at least one legendary creature who has appeared in a core set alphabetically by name, and then list each legendary creature from that plane who has appeared in a core set alphabetically by name. If that creature is from a specific region of that plane or is a member of a specific faction on that plane, I shall list that region or faction in parenthesis after their name.
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Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis (Grixis)
What does everyone think of this list? Is it sufficiently informative? Have I improperly labeled any creatures? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
3 weeks ago
Black devotion was my first real deck, so I always approve of it.
Phyrexian Obliterator is always worth having around. So is Vampire Nighthawk, Geralf's Messenger, and if you want to bleed your wallet, Liliana of the Veil. Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip is a budget alternative, and in black devotion has the advantage of giving you a recurring board state. If possible, I recommend getting cards such as Fatal Push and Inquisition of Kozilek, for the sideboard if not the mainboard, for earlier interaction against faster decks.
That's all I can think of for now, glad you're making use of Vampire Nighthawk's little sibling, Gifted Aetherborn.
3 weeks ago
I feel like Daretti, Scrap Savant isn't a good fit here. You have a grand total of 11 artifacts, so the -2 and -10 abilities are less useful here. Maybe consider Nahiri, the Harbinger as a replacement, if you can afford it? All of her abilites are relevant. Same with Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip and her flipside.
Eldrazi Monument is good for protection, evasion, and as a form of sac outlet. Behind the Scenes feels like it'll be good but always seems a bit lackluster to me. I'd prefer Whispersilk Cloak or Rogue's Passage for evasion. I think I would rather have Swiftfoot Boots than the Hammer of Purphoros.
Victimize is great for getting good creatures back out of your graveyard. And Gift of Immortality is good for abusing ETB or self-sacrificing triggers (I had it enchanted on a Selfless Spirit once and it was nice being almost permanently indestructible. Another time I had it equipped to Kami of Ancient Law and was able to pretty much wipe the field of bothersome enchantments.)
4 weeks ago
I expect I'm not the first person to say this but I want to make Commander decks for the Archenemy: Nicol Bolas set. I figure it would be a lot of fun and something nifty to have.
I will be wanting all decks in paper, as that's when they will be played. I will want them (semi)balanced, as in the Archenemy doesn't win every game but has a good chance.
I figure this also gives me an opportunity to add Gatewatch members that aren't playable in the box set. Ajani, Jace, and Liliana are all missing.
Doing this creates a Commander decision issue. Would I use the creature cards? If I did that, Ajani couldn't have a deck.
- Nicol Bolas
- Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip
- Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip
- Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip
- Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh Flip
- Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip
There is also the possibility of using their namesake cards as the Commander. This would give it a better feeling of Planeswalkers battling as each would at least be in the Command Zone and would be much easier to cast each game.
- Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
- Gideon Jura
- Jace Beleren
- Liliana Vess
- Chandra Nalaar
- Nissa Revane
- Ajani Goldmane
Along the same line of using a Planeswalker as the Commander, I could just pick their best version to use that.
The question would then be, what to do for Nissa and Ajani? Would I use Mono Walkers, or their Multi colored cards for more variety. What supports this idea is that Nissa's Precon deck is .
I believe Ajani would probably be the better strategy, but fits thematically as that was the Walker released in the Ajani v. Bolas Duel Deck.
Anybody have thoughts, opinions, help to offer? Commander choices will be important, whether the decks have other Planeswalker cards in them matters, overall deck strategy for each character would help.