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As an additional cost to play Hatred, pay X life.
Target creature gets +X/+0 until end of turn.
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4 days ago
StopShot, those are really good observations. I always appreciate the feedback.
As for responses, I will first address your question of Aikido. Aikido does not mean not defending yourself against attacks if it would mean disruption of your opponents' efforts. The discussion of ethics is about the most preferable ways to defend yourself. I include spot removal, and that affects board states and plans as well. The highest ethical level in Aikido is to defend oneself while preventing harm to both the attacker and the defender, but it leaves the possibility for defense that harms the attacker if necessary, it is just much less preferable. In the case of storm, you are right in that the board state of storm is the storm count, but no one goes off in storm without the intent to win the game, so defense in this situation can be justified. The alternative is to lose. Preferably, you could Deflecting Palm or Comeuppance an Aetherflux Reservoir for a win of your own, but causing the storm to fizzle is acceptable when you can't end the game yourself. The higher in the ethical hierarchy you play, the better you are, but dipping down to avoid disaster is OK.
I like a lot of your suggestions. As for Vampire Nighthawk, at this point it is sort of a legacy card. I think about removing it every time I consider an alternative. It is in the wincon spot now as an oversight from when I ran Hatred and had several lifelink creatures to go with it. Now it is just a flying rattlesnake. It currently occupies the most likely flex spot, and is in danger of losing it's place. If it is cut, it is likely to be replaced by something more than a simple flying blocker.
Reverberate and Fork have been in the deck in the past. I think you are right in that they function very well in the right meta, and my previous meta was not the right place for them. My new meta may be. The fact that I now face combo and more counterspells means that it will probably function exactly the same way you say. I may trial this in the Vampire Nighthawk slot, probably my revised Fork. The other option I consider for this spot is Praetor's Grasp or Wheel of Fortune. Both can really mess with combo.
As for what combo I face, Karlov of the Ghost Council with Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood, both Mizzix of the Izmagnus and now Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain storm, a new Muldrotha, the Gravetide infinite Villainous Wealth, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight infinite attack phases, Purphoros, God of the Forge Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker shenanigans, Damia, Sage of Stone infinite turns Deadeye Navigator, and Palinchron BS, and probably more. I would say that many decks use combo wincons in addition to other strategies, but there are some that only win with combo, such as the storm and Damia decks.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Changes I'm currently musing...
Cards to consider replacing:
Gratuitous Violence and/or Furnace of Rath
~~ Triple red is risky. We could run an Enlightened Tutor instead of one, but we will be a turn slower. Or we can add the tutor AND keep these. Is there such a thing as too many doublers in this deck?
~~ Can be a blowout for you or the opponent if responded to. Not as on theme with the permanent buffs/damage enablers.
~~ Amazing tutor plus a body, and we run swords, but totally off our optimal curve. With all our equipment, it's probably too good to cut though.
~~ No evasion, but a huge pump on Saskia and shuts down instant speed interaction. Still, is that good enough? Are greaves just better?
Card to consider playing:
~~ Counterspell resilience that works on the curve and hits for 4 power too. No fancy evasion though.
~~ Non-bos aside....uh....these things are amazing fro protecting our Commander or if we aren't on curve and need to recover from a slower start.
~~ Amazing power on curve, no evasion no utility.
~~ Net card loss, but turns into another instance of any enchantment OR artifact in the deck. A turn slow for our doublers.
Duelist's Heritage and Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder
~~ I love double strike in this deck, but Heritage isn't a creature and Tarl is slow on the curve. They are both awesome, but the doubler effects make bigger numbers.
3 weeks ago
SynergyBuild, while I do like Hatred, and it would certainly end the game in some cases, I'm not sure if it fits in with the theme of the deck. I do like the ability to pay life into it though, so that could be my excuse for fitting it in somewhere. If I can't fit it in this deck, it'll definitely go in one of my other ones that mess with life totals.
Thanks for the suggestion!
3 weeks ago
Why not use Hatred punp your commander 18, swing team at the highest life (not yourself now) and kill someone else with commander damage.
1 month ago
It is a fun deck, it struggles against some decks which run Solemnity, which is why I added Aura Shards. There is also a Bruse Tarl deck in my pod that can kill you pretty quickly. Since I am a target due to infect, that deck can deal me enough commander damage to end me.
Also, Blightsteel Colossus ended up being too much of a dead card in preliminary with not enough ways to cheat it out without paying the 12 mana cost. It's much better to have smaller, cheaper evasive infectors and a bunch of ways to pump them with counters + proliferate to pump more and to increment posion counters already on the board.
Example: I get Blighted Agent out turn two after a Sol Ring turn one and and Swiftfoot Boots on turn 2 equipped to the blighted agent. Then with a third all color land turn 3 and Hatred, Give // Take or Citadel Siege in hand, I can kill a player by turn 3 or turn 5/6 which is much better than having BlightSteel in hand and having to wait a bunch of turns to even get it onto the board.
1 month ago
Good points I won't deny. Regarding the Voltron yeah it is a nice option aswell but more like a secondary win-con by means of a Hatred or similar. Well I guess I might have overreacted, because he is one of my favourite legendaries so I apologize if I hurt your feelings.