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Vernal Bloom Discussion
2 weeks ago
I own everything included, so not a problem on having the cards available. I pruned Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse from my over land because I felt I had enough fetching means going on, but it wouldn't be beyond reason to consider those in place of sorcery-based fetching from the perspective of recurring them from the graveyard and being able to repeat the fetch process. It's something I could consider.
2 weeks ago
On the topic of Sensei's Divining Top , I'm doing a lot filtering through this decks structure, probably more than is common, but getting cards into hand in mono-green is a tough spot. The top just has value there. Now, I could switch it out for something like Momentous Fall or Soul's Majesty , which I initially considered doing, but I was a bit concerned over worthwhile targets. Soul's Majesty seems like the better option because of the sac requirement for Fall, but I didn't like the increase in mana curve.
Thanks for linking your deck, Abaques. I will definitely take a look!
3 weeks ago
I see Vernal Bloom in the maybeboard. What are your thoughts on the card for this list?
1 month ago
I don't really think that Emrakul + Xenagos counts as a combo, more like a synergy to win the same turn you play it. But to be honest, og emmy herself easily win - it's basically un-removable, can attack your second turn you take afterwards, and your opponent will probably be under 15 life. If they manage to survive, they will have to either absolutely wipe their boardstate or all their lands.
Have you considered Vernal Bloom ? It's very good with this new arbor elf fad.
1 month ago
I don't like the fact that there is black here. Including the graveyard is incredibly cluncky, and if the graveyard isn't there, there isn't any reason to have black. Mono Green Elves ramp would work better or some form of Utopia Sprawl / Vernal Bloom / Arbor Elf . I have a deck, All 3, Really? That's Overkill that us just a.little bit popular, maybe you've seen it. In any case, I have a massist discussion on how to get the most man's the fastest.
2 months ago
Cool list. Maybe Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar would be a better general? It's a bigger, cheaper beatstick with ways to get itself out of your graveyard, which gets around Commander Tax(I run her as a Voltron commander; it comes in handy). Greater Good is an amazing card draw card. With Multani or Molimo, you're usually drawing at least ten cards at instant speed. Most games I'm drawing twenty or more. Crucible of Worlds and Ramunap Excavator gets the lands out of your graveyard. Something like Perilous Forays is great with lots of tokens lying around, and can turn a board wipe into lands for you. Vernal Bloom is great in a mono green deck. It can help your opponents, but most of the time it's only for you. Any of the Garruks would be good, though Garruk Wildspeaker and Garruk, Primal Hunter seem best since you're going for a land based strategy.
3 months ago
I really don't get your justification for not playing Utopia Sprawl . So what if it's used in a Stompy deck? That doesn't make it any less good as a ramp spell. In other words, just because a card makes you think of a certain type of deck doesn't mean it only works in that type of deck. Like, Lightning Bolt is Burn's best card, but it's also used as a removal spell in UR and Jeskai Control decks, which are on the opposite side of the spectrum.
Plus, with Utopia Sprawl, you can pull off the turn 5 Spawnsire win you wrote about in your description on turn 4 without having to play Harmonize to draw the rest of the cards you need.
Turn 1: Land, Arbor Elf
Turn 3: Land, you now have access to 10 mana (the land with Utopia Sprawl on it taps for 6 w/ Arbor Elf, the other two lands tap for 2 each) and 3 cards in hand assuming you went first. From here, there are a couple ways to get to 30 mana:
- Primeval Titan --> Arbor Elf or Vernal Bloom or Utopia Sprawl or a land (next turn) + an Early Harvest next turn
- Arbor Elf --> Utopia Sprawl + Early Harvest
Turn 4: Draw a card (it'd have to be a Spawnsire or an Early Harvest if u had Spawnsire in hand) and then Spawnsire ftw!
If you went second the extra card would give you a lot more options for getting to 30 mana on turn 4, and I'm sure I missed a few routes up above.
But other than allowing the turn 4 win, Utopia Sprawl also just speeds everything else up a lot with Arbor Elf, letting you play 4 mana worth of ramp on turn 2 or a Prime Time on turn 3 (you don't even need any extra ramp to do that), and unlike Joraga Treespeaker , it is also untapped by Early Harvest . It might be worth testing some more untap land effects like Voyaging Satyr and Magus of the Candelabra (Magus especially seems neat; it's kind of like an extra Early Harvest).
Also, here's a Spawnsire of Ulamog deck I saw a while back (almost a couple years ago I think): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/much-abrew-harvest-wave-modern (Note that it used both Utopia Sprawl and Fertile Ground to great effect). Idk if it helps at all, but it's nice to look at a different take on the same deck to get some ideas. There are also some G Devotion lists that make a ton of mana with Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx + Garruk Wildspeaker .
3 months ago
Heartwood Storyteller seems like it would fit well in here.
Also with the mass amount of card draw you may want some more ways to slam your lands down faster: Azusa, Lost but Seeking, Exploration, Burgeoning, Gaea's Touch, Oracle of Mul Daya, Vernal Bloom (making them twice as valuable), etc.
Nylea, God of the Hunt is another non targetting trample enabler for Multani
Vernal Bloom occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%