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Retribution of the Ancients
, Remove X +1/+1 counters from among creatures you control: Target creature gets -X/-X until end of turn.
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Retribution of the Ancients Discussion
1 week ago
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed fist mgiht also help as he buffs as well as brings your stuff back to life. With added bonuses to destruction and a decently sized body with evasion. Also throw in Retribution of the Ancients or Hex Parasite and you can wipe the 1/1 counters so that you can double dip on the undying trigger.
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1 week ago
Quest for the Gemblades is something that you should absolutely consider. Also, I think you should possibly consider adding black to this to make it Jund counters. Retribution of the Ancients, and Vampiric Rites are great cards, especially with the undying cards that you are playing. You sac a creature to gain a life and draw a card, only to have it come back with counters, which you can use to kill an opponent's creature, then repeat this process. Also, Fanatic of Mogis seems somewhat slow here. Plus, if tribute isn't paid, then there isn't much more he does with the synergy of the deck.
2 weeks ago
I was using Overrun, as well as Triumph of the Hordes for a while but found that I went infinite before they were useful so I dropped them. I still have them on my Maybe Maybe list though. Funny you bring up Retribution of the Ancients. I just came across that card a couple days ago and set it aside for inclusion. I think I will find a place for it. I'm not a fan of Smothering Abomination cause I haven't had a problem with card draw but that might have to do with my matchups. I'll put it into my Maybe Maybe list. I was throwing around the idea of Puppeteer Clique as well a few other Persist cards but they didn't seem to have enough payoff. The Undying mechanic was so much better. But if Persist has proven helpful for you, I'll reconsider. Cathars' Crusade is really nice. I didn't realize how well that can pay off until recently so now it is a must include. Thanks for the suggestions!
2 weeks ago
Hey, so with my Ghave deck, I have found that other win conditions I've found are Overrun and Beastmaster Ascension especially once you've made a lot of tokens. A card I've considered running is Retribution of the Ancients it seems like it would be really good removal. as far as sac outlets go it looks pretty good, I would consider Smothering Abomination it's great for drawing, but it's not a may so that's the downside. I would also consider running stuff with persist such as Puppeteer Clique because it can go infinite with a sac outlet and something like Cathars' Crusade. I hope you found this helpful. Your deck looks really cool. +1
3 weeks ago
I'd also suggest swapping Mortify and Putrefy for Beast Within and Anguished Unmaking, Utter End, or Vindicate. Just generally better removal spells. Maybe Sylvan Reclamation or Return to Dust if you need a lot of enchantment/artifact removal.
3 weeks ago
After adding Grimoire of the Dead to reduce overall mana cost, I begain toying with the idea of Contagion Clasp. I've been wanting to add Retribution of the Ancients for a while and it could be used to take advantage of the proliferate. Problem is not much in Black fits the theme of aging ungracefully and insanely and includes +1/+1 counters. I have Unbreathing Horde, but I'd have to wait until I got zombie tokens for it to be useful and Butcher Ghoul for it's undying and potential recursion interaction but other than that, it sucks. I am tempting to add Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet because it a) gives me a sack outlet, b) creates tokens for use with Contamination and Descent into Madness and c) could be super pumped to use with Retribution of the Ancients. However, it doesn't really fit the theme (although the storyline includes quotes from him concerning mindlessness) so does it break the theme too much just to make the deck more competitive? What do you think dryadson?
I also have a copy of Malakir Cullblade for counters but it doesn't really fit the theme either.
1 month ago
I think Dragon Scales would be a good include for your deck since it always gives an auto-buff and Vigilance to your commander.
Lastly Retribution of the Ancients might be worth considering. Even though its the same effect your commander has, you don't have to remove all the counters with its effect making the killing of your opponents creatures much more efficient.
1 month ago
Hello, and thanks dor your comment! :) So both cards could be great in a multiplayer enviroment but in duel commander they feel a bit slow. Retribution of the Ancients doesn't do anything if i have no counters, and i generally preffer to spend my mana to cast more spells or creatures. Crypt Ghast could be awesome with more expensive spells, but then again, i preffer to use my slots to cast more agressive creatures. I have considered the retribution and maybe i'll make room for it in a diferent build of the deck. What would you take off for those cards?