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|Shadows over Innistrad||Mythic Rare|
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Creature — Zombie
Menace (This creature can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.)
When Relentless Dead dies, you may pay . If you do, return it to its owner's hand.
When Relentless Dead dies, you may pay . If you do, return another target Zombie creature card with converted mana cost X from your graveyard to the battlefield.
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Relentless Dead Discussion
2 hours ago
Thank you MagicMat for taking the time to look at the deck.
Well, i covered already why i think Death Baron is not the Lord i want for this deck, but Relentless Dead are nice, yes. Perhaps there is space along the line to fit them in. I will try them out. I am not convinced by Rancor though. I dont think i can cut any cards that are not equally or more important. If you have suggestions though, i am gratefull for ideas.
3 hours ago
7 hours ago
I like it, but I've gotten to thinking: Maybe Esper Zombies is a better route. Let me explain.
With liliana, death's majesty, recursion is at your disposal. So what if you splashed blue for things like Prized Amalgam or Gisa and Geralf, or even Relentless Dead for all of the recursion at your disposal. That way, Zombies will be coming out of nowhere and steal the win. I'm thinking of doing this myself, so I'll let you know how it goes :)
1 day ago
lords2001 - I can see the argument for From Under the Floorboards, but it only makes tokens. The point of Dark Salvation was that it was a 2-for-1: make dudes and kill something. I may run Floorboards if I have an open spot, but I'm not sure where I'd fit it. I will run Relentless Dead though. Thanks for the feedback!
2 days ago
That is a really interesting idea. Are you adding the new or old Liliana? Personally, my reasoning for not including either is as follows:
Liliana, the Last Hope is a great card in most decks. For us, we don't care about delirium, and her +1 is underpowered in a world of vehicles and planeswalkers. We are already weak to fliers, so often times, Liliana will just get whacked by Heart of Kiran the turn she comes out.
liliana, death's majesty is a fun card I want to try out in a re-animator deck, however, for us, paying 5 mana to bring back something we already can do with Relentless Dead seems meh. Plus, by the time we get to 5 mana, we should be close to winning already or dumping two or more zombies to fuel our Diregraf Colossus or Wayward Servant
I hope it works for you though, and please let me know!
Always Watching is a card I think is really cool. It'd be extremely powerful in this kind of deck, especially when we are doing broken stuff with our synergy. If I were you, I'd be careful about cutting your white sources of mana and then adding a card. Also, I am already running only 22 lands, and our average cmc is exactly 2. With the 5 mana planeswalker, you are taking a huge risk by going to 20 lands. Remember, you can always discard your extra lands to Cryptbreaker, and hitting Liliana's Mastery on time feels broken. If you are considering cuts, be careful about taking too much away from your mana. My biggest advice to you would be to run Westvale Abbey Flip. It is an alternate win that comes out of nowhere and breaks up a board stall. When I test this deck, if I draw into Westvale, it consistently flips, and I almost always win. free win cards should be included.
Good luck with your build, and thank you for the +1!
2 days ago
I would put on a couple more Miasmic Mummy and swap Dark Salvation for From Under the Floorboards - you can hardcast it or discard and mass cast late game. I am also surprised by the lack of Relentless Dead - I find him to be an all star in stalemate games - block, put back in hand, get back a cheapie, repeat.
3 days ago
You know, after playing with Dread Wanderer a bit at my prerelease I realized I vastly underestimated it! I will be adding 3-4 of them once I figure out what to cut, likely a couple of Relentless Dead to start just due to how mana hungry they can be. They should provide a nice recursive source of drain. I appreciate the feedback!
3 days ago
I would highly recommend these zombies and zombie cards to spruce up your game, Relentless Dead, Highborn Ghoul, Diregraf Colossus since every zombie you play once he comes out now is that zombie and an additional token 2/2, plus his rez effect counts him as he comes from the graveyard so if you wanted to do a graveyard swarm strategy that's viable. Endless Ranks of the Dead, that one is a tad slower but combined with Diregraf Colossus can make a swarm happen VERY quickly. Sidisi, Undead Vizier is a good utility card that has an awesome effect when he enters and then for 5 mana is a 4/6 with death touch, that's pretty crazy for black and you don't usually see that mana cost with those stats except in green. Cemetery Reaper, Graf Harvest, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Korlash, Heir to Blackblade is a really good tank fighter if mana isn't a problem. Noxious Ghoul is another good one if you play solely zombies. Spiteful Returned is a good zombie that a lot of people overlook and Stronghold Assassin is pretty good. Unbreathing Horde and Zombie Master are also good zombie cards and finally if budget isn't an issue Death Baron is a must have for sheer scary power. Hope this pool of suggestions helps you out!