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Olivia, Mobilized for War
Legendary Creature — Vampire Knight
Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may discard a card. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on that creature, it gains haste until end of turn, and it becomes a Vampire in addition to its other types.
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Olivia, Mobilized for War Discussion
2 days ago
dropped Goblin Bombardment, Reverberate, and some Vamps. You've got plenty of other great Sac Outlets and no way to go infinite with Bombardment and Reverb is just ok until an opponent plays some giant late game spell. Those cuts made room for a small Madness package (Asylum Visitor, Falkenrath Gorger, Insolent Neonate & Faithless Looting) which works great with Bloodghast & Olivia, Mobilized for War and speeds things up also.
6 days ago
I think you could use more card draw. Phyrexian Arena would be a good choice, and so would Arguel's Blood Fast Flip. Greed is another option. I think you could also use some more mass board wipes, and in black you could pull off In Garruk's Wake and Plague Wind, or Kindred Dominance. Those are three board wipes that allow you to keep your board state, which is so great with a token strategy. Nim Deathmantle might be better than Whip of Erebos. I also think that Olivia Voldaren is better than Olivia, Mobilized for War, unless you have some synergistic stuff going on with her.
I think I would pull New Blood. Nice flavor, but I don't think its worth it. Since you're running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, you should run Filth, too. And if you want a backup to Urborg, Blanket of Night is good. I think I'd dump Rakdos Charm, too. Usually good against token strategies, but you are running a bit of one yourself.
How does Well of Lost Dreams work for you? You have lots of life loss effects going on, so if it works well, then stick with it. If you find yourself tapped out most of the time that you would want to use it, then a more straightforward card draw engine or another mana rock might work out better.
I hope that helps some. I love the vampire tribal theme, so I hope you get it working for you.
Melanthios on Vamp
1 week ago
- Hidden Stockpile
- Legion's Landing
- Bishop of Rebirth *okay tapped out, don't show me this card :|
- Drana, Liberator of Malakir
- Olivia, Mobilized for War
- Falkenrath Aristocrat
- Olivia's Bloodsworn
- Asylum Visitor
- Urge to Feed
- Stensia Masquerade
- Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
- Sorin, Solemn Visitor
- Sorin Markov
- Godless Shrine
- Marsh Flats
- Bloodstained Mire
- Arid Mesa
A couple of suggestions with the goals you have in mind. Granted, they all aren't immediately obtainable.
Immediate vampires, however there are many other cards which create tokens to feed your self sacrificing strats,
1 week ago
I like the Madness Vampire route that was in standard (don't know if it holds up in modern): Insolent Neonate, Falkenrath Gorger, Stromkirk Condemned, Asylum Visitor, Olivia's Dragoon, Olivia, Mobilized for War, and Voldaren Pariah Flip as the finisher. Combining them with bloodghasts and additional card advantage can be pretty aggresive.
I understand its a different deck build, but maybe some of these cards can ignite some ideas.
1 week ago
Well.... it depends on your meta as to if my recommendation is worth taking, but generally for me, Edgar tends to go wide rather than big, lots of small tokens from casting my creatures. As such, your Yahenni's Expertise may end up hurting you more than it hurts your opponents, so that's potentially one you could replace. But if you play against opponents who also tend to play smaller creatures, I'd understand keeping it. Otherwise, I would say that Olivia, Mobilized for War is one that maybe isn't helping you much. You don't have cards with madness or threshold in your deck, and I'm not seeing recursion in your strategy, so discarding for her ability isn't getting you as much value as it might.
As far as my own deck, the times I have gotten to play Crib Swap has been effective, but the removal you're running may already be solid enough to not need to put it in.
3 weeks ago
Also, consider Skullclamp to draw off of the tokens that you create, since keeping a full hand in commander is so important.
Not sure if this messes up your colors but I think Insolent Neonate could be a good upgrade to some of your one drop vampires since his ability is more relevant in a late game topdecking scenario. Along the same lines, Shadow Alley Denizen may be better than a Pulse Tracker type card as well since intimidate can be stronger than draining opponents for one (and every vampire activates it with the token!). Viscera Seer can also take advantage of the tokens you create and help smooth out those draws.
Attrition was a very underwhelming card for me for just one reason: Nonblack. A card that can be completely useless against one of the most popular colors in commander can be dead a lot of the time against a lot of creatures you want it to remove. Herald’s Horn could be good in this slot as a ramp/card advantage engine, or Mind Slash if you still want to 1 for 0 your opponents with your tokens. Inspiring Cleric also seems underwhelming, since 4 life in commander is so little and lifegain isn't a great effect in the format in general unless you are all-in on it. Consider Drana's Emissary as a replacement if you still would like the lifegain, but a card like Olivia, Mobilized for War could be better, if you have extra cards or madness vampires. Rakish Heir may also be a good replacement.
3 weeks ago
In my experience, Tokens don't do a whole bunch of work. Because you'll need at least 5+ creatures to hit once or twice. Although it of course depends on what your friends play! First off just some cuts I'd recommend; Bishop of the Bloodstained Is an OK vamp, but Malakir Bloodwitch is way better, Bloodghast is ok but he's only a 2/1 with maybe haste, granted he essentially keeps comming back, but he dosnt have a great threat level that needs an answer for and he dosnt proc Edgar each time he ETB theres a lot better vamps out there who can fill this slot. Bloodthrone Vampire is ok but sacing a token just for a +2/+2 seems meaningless for me, sure it's a 3/3 but you have to burn a token that could be attacking instead, so you're really just getting one more damage...Falkenrath Gorger is a great card, but you kinda need to play around it so to speak, you cant cast madess as a regular cast and you're not benefiting from discarding in this deck so it seems a little out of place, if you were to have say Olivia, Mobilized for War and other discard theme's then I'd be for it but unless your playing against heavy discard decks I'd say no, Journey to Nowhere and Oblivion Ring are nice enchantments sure, but with black,red AND white as card sources, you're already in the BEST removal in the game, I'd but more usefull cards like the new Kindred Dominance or something like Crackling Doom to get more bang for your buck so to speak. (although granted you could get back the Journey to Nowhere and Oblivion Ring through some recursion, but recursion is not the main theme of this deck. (if you wana go that route, i'd say go Patriarch's Bidding, Go for the Throat, love this card for 2 mana but there is a better card out here, and since Edgar is a heavy black deck, I havent had ANY issue casting this, Malicious Affliction if just a fabulous card, for only TWO mana you can kill TWO things, simply marvelous, and since you're in heavy removal colors the Morbid hasnt been hard to trigger, or killing creatures (i.e your own tokens or so). Also I love Mortify and its flavor, but there is an upgrade, its called Wear / Tear kills both an enchantment AND artifact, for the SAME MANA COST. It's simply better. Sorry for such the long post! But some cuts/ rec's i'd give to you. I personally think that a tribal theme deck's are weak because they focus more on a timmy strategy and have no answer's to anything because they want to barf out their vampires, werewolfs, merfolk, w/e and just flood the board! (like those damn elves) But we as vampires are more powerful and cunning than that! I think the best vampire is to focus more on a control/good vampire strategy.
3 weeks ago
@Xica: Ideally, I think, you'd play red for Stromkirk Captain, Olivia, Mobilized for War, Falkenrath Gorger, and possibly Stromkirk Noble. Then, you'd have nothing but lords or cards that trigger your Aristocrats package. You'll notice in that list I posted my friend was using a lot of filler so that he had his 1 and 2 drop slots.
The other factor is how much quicker you can flood the board. Since you can instantly dump 2 vampires into play at the end of your opponent's turn, Captivating Vampire is a much more powerful card. 2 vampires on the field, 2 get flashed in at the end of the turn, then untap and play Captivating Vampire makes matchups like Tron much easier.
If you want to go purely mono-black, then you need all of the 1-drop, 2-power vampires you can get your hands on. MtG Goldfish has this list that's pretty solid for mono-black vampires on a budget.
I still think even in mono-black, you're not going to beat other mono-black midrange builds (a la Phyrexian Obliterator Devotion). Playing a faster curve with lots of creatures and finishing your opponent off with Vampire Nocturnus is going to be easier than trying to control the board.