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, : Put target Zombie card from your graveyard on top of your library.
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Unholy Grotto occurrence in decks from the last year
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Unholy Grotto Discussion
1 month ago
This deck seems like you just stuck most of the combos you could find within black. There is some synergy, but overall you can find yourself with a lot of dead combo pieces. What you should do is stick to 1-3 (4 if you can actually make the deck more viable in dealing with interaction at 3) key combos that you use most often and that synergize with your deck. I'll let you decide what you think is best to keep and not.
Imp's Mischief - Counters counterspells, redirects targeted draw, extra turns, removal, etc.... Very powerful
Corpse Dance - W/ commander = 5 mana instant speed tutor
Rings of Brighthearth - Synergy with 12 cards, including top which can act as a draw source with rings. If you were to add fetches, thats even more value. Or even better yet, a Panharmonicon for extra ETB value.
Cut piranaha marsh for Deserted Temple to untap coffers
I dont see any way for you to deal with artifacts and enchantments. If you want recomendations for artifact/enchantment removal or if you want to discuss the deck further, lmk. Looking forward to your response on each suggestion
5 months ago
It really depends on your meta and your budget. However for now i'll try to list some cards that i really like in that type of deck.. In the creature compartment i would suggest Diregraf Colossus, Undead Warchief, maybe Death Baron, Cryptbreaker, the obvious Gravecrawler, Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Lich Lord of Unx. For card draw i would add Graveborn Muse or Midnight Reaper. Soulless One can be a good card if you are on a budget. Grimgrin, Corpse-Born is a great card too as he gets really big and destroys your opponents' creatures fast.Zombie Master is good on its own in a tribal deck but becomes great with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. More expensive cards are Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Ghoulcaller Gisa; if i had to pick i would choose the first. Also Grave Titan can get you a lot of tokens.
Enchantments: Grave Pact for removal, Phyrexian Arena/Kindred Discovery/Rhystic Study and the great and cheap Monastery Siege for card draw, Black Market for ramp, Rooftop Storm enables a lot of Gravecrawler combos, Paradox Haze doubles your commander's effect while Training Grounds makes his second effect cheaper.
Artifacts: Phyrexian Altar for the gravecrawler combo, i love in this deck Bontu's Monument, Door of Destinies/Vanquisher's Banner/Coat of Arms because you are going for a tribal deck (and why not Herald's Horn. Illusionist's Bracers doubles the scarab's firs ability.
PW: Liliana, Untouched By Death does everything you want in a Scarab god deck.
The problem with your deck in my opinion is that even if you play cards with some synergy because of the zombie tribal element and some way to double your commander's drain ability there are a lot of cards that do not enough for you here. Remember that playing a deck that is a constant menace to your opponents gets you a big target on your head. To be more specific with my suggestions i need to know your budget, your meta and the path you want to take with this deck. Also there are too little cards in the removal compartment, in the draw compartment and in the mana base fixing compartment.
6 months ago
sternomastoideus Well it's a fine line with this deck. Yes Neheb, the Eternal doesn't have a ton of protection but that is a risk I'm willing to take. Also, yes this deck wins on the regular, though I'm working on making it more consistent. You can't use Unholy Grotto because it has a in it. Fair warning, you will draw lots of hate, so be ready for it.
6 months ago
Hi I want to create a Deck with Neheb, the Eternal too. Did you allready play several times with this Deck? Could this Deck also be strong without your Commander? There are many options to kill your Commander and you dont have a lot of protections.
I will create such a deck too. Maybe you could put Unholy Grotto into your Deck, because your Commander is a Zombie =) thanks for your Deck
8 months ago
All have some juicy flavor for the "every tribe" theme, you're running.
1 year ago
So the first card that comes to mind is Mindslicer . In Rakdos decks, you can typically tune your 99 to make you the king of top-decks; this is part of the reason reanimating Sire Of Insanity is such a brutal play in decks like Xantcha, Sleeper Agent .
You're likely to be sacrificing a whole butt-ton of creatures. I advise ways to exploit your guys dying: Dictate of Erebos or Grave Pact come readily to mind. Skullclamp is pretty busted if you're going to be sacrificing creatures anyways, and its especially good seeing as you're running Gravecrawler already.
Zombies is one of the oldest archetypes, and thus it has access to a LOT of tribal effects. Cemetery Reaper , Death Baron , Zombie Master , Undead Warchief , Lord of the Accursed and Lord of the Undead are all good ways to pump your team and/or give them extra abilities. (Depending on the meta, you may want to run Bad Moon as well.) Call to the Grave is really good if you can tune the deck to have 2 or fewer non-zombie creatures. Dark Salvation and Liliana's Mastery are both viable cards in this deck. Graveborn Muse is another good card draw engine next to Phyrexian Arena , which I see you're already running. Unholy Grotto gives you a measure of recursion over your zombies. Noxious Ghoul also comes to mind, as does Withered Wretch as a form of one-sided graveyard hate.
One common issue I've seen in a lot of EDH decks is the prevalence of 1-for-1 instant and sorceries. In a majority of EDH games, you're going to have 2-3 opponents, rather than just one; this means you are facing roughly 2-3 times as many cards as you yourself have access to. Cards like Dreadbore and Terminate are good in 1-on-1 formats like Modern, but in EDH I have frequently found them to just not be good enough. I advise you run cards like Fire Covenant , Ashes to Ashes , Volcanic Fallout or Toxic Deluge instead. These have the potential to take out several creatures at the cost of one card, leaving you up that many cards over your opponents.
On a related note, since most games of EDH are decided by card advantage, anything you can do to draw cards will always be welcome. Ambition's Cost , Night's Whisper and the like are good ways to refill your hand. Wheel of Fortune is another good card, but it's about $100 now, so... consider carefully. Light Up the Stage is another one to consider. While Rakdos is good at topdecking, managing to draw extra cards means it is more likely to hit.
Looting effects tend to be very good in zombie decks, which have access to graveyard recursion. Faithless Looting is essentially card advantage in your deck, because you can discard things like Gravecrawler at no cost. Similarly, I advise running a bigger reanimation package (supplementing your Animate Dead ) to get back fatties your opponents may have killed or you may have discarded. Reanimate , and Necromancy are good cards -- if you want to get spicy, Dance of the Dead is a card most people have never played against before, mostly because it isn't nearly as good as the other three. But I figured I'd mention it. Also, a bigger reanimation package means things like Entomb or Buried Alive become exponentially better.
With regard to planeswalkers, Liliana, Death's Majesty is a good card for any zombie deck.
With regard to your lands: I don't think Blighted Fen is very good, and Temple of the False God should be replaced with Ancient Tomb if at all possible. If you want good utility lands that can kill pesky creatures, I advise Blast Zone . If you are able, I advise running Bloodstained Mire and/or the off-color fetches in order to grab your Blood Crypt or Smoldering Marsh . These fetches are in effect extra dual lands.
If you have a lot of recursion, which I see you do in things like Phyrexian Reclamation , you may have luck with pox-style cards. Pox is one of the most brutal cards to resolve in EDH, and Smallpox and Innocent Blood also can be played to great effect. Note that these get around hexproof, shroud and indestructible.
Depending on how hateful your meta is, you may want to consider some pretty mean red cards. Changing your land base slightly will give you access to Blood Moon , Magus of the Moon and Ruination , while Price of Glory will make people think twice about casting counter-magic. If your meta is as blue-heavy as mine, Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast are also fine considerations. If you end up running a lot of lord effects, you may want to consider Pyroclasm or Anger of the Gods , as your guys won't die if they're big enough. Possibility Storm is a good way to disrupt combo players -- I should know, as I play Storm in cEDH.
Because black has literally only one card designed to destroy artifacts ( Gate to Phyrexia ), red is a welcome addition to the team. By Force is a favorite of mine, but Shattering Spree , Vandalblast and Shatterstorm are also good ideas.
Rocks are great in EDH, especially if they're only 1 or 2 mana. I advise Talisman of Indulgence to replace Rakdos Locket and Mind Stone to replace Commander's Sphere . Coldsteel Heart is good as well, though it enters tapped, just like Charcoal Diamond and Fire Diamond . Thought Vessel is also worth considering.
Good luck with deck building!
1 year ago
As a general rule, adding things to slow your opponents down is a good way to start taking a deck to the next level. Idk how much search your meta has, but Ashiok, Dream Render works wonders against enemy tutors while also providing a level of graveyard hate.
Liliana, Death's Majesty is well under $10 and should be strongly considered for any zombie deck.
Unholy Grotto is a utility land you might be interested in, as it provides some recursion for your zombies.
You also seem to be relatively light on card draw or selection. Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm are all good cantrips, especially if conjoined with shuffle effects like Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse . Personally, I like Night's Whisper and Chart a Course as two-for-ones, but I see you're running Phyrexian Arena ; that is a solid permanent which produces card advantage. Graveborn Muse is also a similar consideration, although the life loss may need to be countered by a Whip of Erebos or the like. In a similar vein, something like Slate of Ancestry may work well with the token-producers you have; Curse of Disturbance seems a good consideration to add to the token-package. It's worth noting that a large majority of EDH games are decided by card advantage.
I'm not sure how well Crypt of Agadeem works; I've had poor results with it. You may want to just run a basic land instead.
The Undermine slot is likely better served with Sinister Sabotage . In a format with 40 life, making an opponent lose 3 life is equivalent to draining them 1.5 life in a 20 life format. In all likelihood, you may just want the ability to filter your draws or (ideally) to bin a zombie, then cast it from the graveyard with Gisa and Geralf without needing to worry about wasting a draw on it.
I've also not had good experience with 3-mana artifact mana-producers. I suggest Dimir Signet and Talisman of Dominance instead of Mana Geode and Chromatic Lantern . Chromatic Lantern really only becomes strictly necessary in 4- or 5-color decks, and since you're 2, it seems superfluous.
I always like seeing a list with Exquisite Blood in it; you should run Sanguine Bond as well, as these two together produce an auto-win. Also, if you put a way to grant lifelink (such as the aforementioned Whip of Erebos ), Sanguine Bond begins to act as a pseudo damage-doubler.
Depending on your meta and whether there are other creature-based black decks, Bad Moon may be a good insert as an anthem effect. Similarly, barring an over-abundance of artifact decks, you may want to include Ashes to Ashes as a two-for-one removal spell.
Since UMA came out, Entomb is only a few dollars; Buried Alive acts similarly. So I advise adding that, as well as reanimation effects like Animate Dead , Necromancy or Reanimate . Being able to produce a Grave Titan turn two is always a massive plus. But don't feel limited to just Grave Titan , though; things like Helldozer are good reanimation targets as well. If you just want big, black fatties, Massacre Wurm and Phyrexian Obliterator are two of my favorites (though they're relatively expensive).
Good luck with the zombies. The living dead are bosses.
1 year ago
@hkhssweiss: I definitely would like to go consinder more the route of reanimation based cards. Thank you for the list of suggestions, there are definitely some cards that I would like to use for the deck.
@xaarvaxus: Cryptbreakeris in the deck now. Apparently I forgot to update that one on the list. I like the combo with Carrion Feeder and going to add Unholy Grotto for sure. Didn't know that card existed, so thank you! :)
Thank you once more all for the suggestions, I'm planning to update the deck this week and have some playrounds on the weekend. Can't wait to overwhelm with zombies. as it's way more impactful.