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If you would draw a card, draw two cards instead.
Thought Reflection Discussion
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Unlike with triggered abilities where player turn order matters, the player who would have their action replaced is always the one who chose which replacement effect to apply, even if they don't control all sources of permanents that apply these effects. So this means is that if you have an Underrealm Lich and an opponent controls a Notion Thief , you can choose to have the opponent draw the extra card instead of you, or you can choose to filter the top three with the Lich.
But in the case of a few of the examples you gave above, replacing the effect with one ability would cause it to then be replaced by another. This gets kinda confusing the more it gets compounded.
I think you already know this, but to understand this, it's critical to be aware that the one replacement effect only applies to the one action once. This makes it so that the game doesn't end in a draw with two Notion Thieves in play, and allows things like Thought Reflection and Mox Diamond to function.
So, let's run through it. Neither the caster nor the turn order matters that much, so your examples will play out very similarly.
Player A and player B each control a Notion Thief. Vision Skiens is cast.
For the two cards that player A would draw, player B's Notion Thief replaces that effect and player B would draw them instead. But player A's Notion Thief replaces that effect and player A draws them instead. Player B's replacement effect already applied to this action, so it doesn't try to apply to it a second time.
For the two cards that player B would draw, the same happens in reverse. When dealing with two players and each control a Notion Thief, functionally what happens is they cancel each other out.
For the two cards player C would draw, they choose which replacement effect will replace their draw. They can choose between player A or player B's Notion Thief. If they choose player A, then player A would go to draw those two cards, but player B's replacement effect applies and so player B draws them instead. If player C had chosen player B's replacement effect instead, then player B would have gone to draw those two cards but player A's Notion Thief replaces that draw and player A draws instead. If player C has a preference for which of these two players would draw the cards, then that choice is in player C's hands, but player C needs to have their own draw be initially replaced by the player they don't want to draw the cards.
Player D has the same set of choices to make as player C.
Because the turn order doesn't matter except for the order in which the players make their choices, I'm hoping you understand how it would play out in each scenario, given my example above. I can explain more though, if you want.
8 months ago
I would cut down on expensive lands if you need to save more money.
Evolving Wilds is a great fetch land that is very budget.
Another recommendation I have is to toss out some cards and don't only have one copy of a card. Have 2-4 copies of a card in a deck, depending on the card's importance to the deck's function.
9 months ago
Neat concept! Not sure if
Muldrotha, the Gravetide
merits the spot of commander, though, given the amount of non-permanents you have. I would've chosen the partner combo of
Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix
Silas Renn, Seeker Adept
(putting in some more artifacts like
Here's some cards that'll boost your drawing power:
10 months ago
Recommended Out: Cartouche of Knowledge
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Eldrazi Conscription - About $15
Frantic Search - About $1
Auramancer's Guise - About $0.50
Gift of Immortality - About $1
Curator's Ward - About $0.01
Mesa Enchantress - About $0.20
Mirror-Mad Phantasm - About $0.80
Read the Runes - About $0.20
Traumatize - About $2
Fool's Demise - About $0.20
Protective Bubble - About $0.10
Ordeal of Thassa - About $0.05
Vow of Flight - About $0.05
11 months ago
Thought Reflection occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%