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Thought Scour Discussion
1 month ago
Your mana is currently a bit of a mess. You want untapped black on T1 for the hand disruption and then UU and BR on T2 to with Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger and Counterspell together, almost guarteeing starting the game at 16 life. As the game continues you want BBRR for Kroxa and UUU for Snapcaster Mage + Counterspell. You also have double island, which is going to be extremely awkward with Kroxa, especially since you going to be fetching them pretty often to save life in the aggressive matchups. As it stands in your build you're going to be taking 6+ damage from your lands per game, especially since you have 9+ shocks. I would per cut 2 Steam Vents and 2 Watery Grave and 1 Bloodstained Mire to add a 2 Creeping Tar Pit for a man-land late game, a Mountain to have a painless untapped red source and some Darkslick Shores for untapped painless black on T1. You could also play some Field of Ruin to help in the Amulet Titan and Tron matchups.
As for cards you currently don't have any methods outside of the Lurrus of the Dream-Den + Mishra's Bauble engine to draw cards or gain card advantage, which is extremely easy to disrupt and is going to lead to a lot of situations where you're going to be out ground in the Control mirror or by Stoneblade decks since both these types of decks can deal with Kroxa easily. Search for Azcanta Flip is a good method of doing this, it bins cards for Kroxa and works well with counterspells. I'm a big Expressive Iteration fan, although it works best in a discard-based control decks and more Aggressive Grixis Builds since you can play [Inquisition of Kozilek] and Thoughtseize proactivly. Cryptic Command is another way, although it is basically unplayable in the same deck as Kroxa due to mana requirements and is much better in a blue-based Sprite Dragon Grixis control version.
I'd also play 4 Lightning Bolt . It's in a very good position in the current meta and a large number of games are won by Bolt Snap Bolt. If your playing Kroxa Thought Scour is extremely good. It increases the amount of T4 Kroxa being cast while also milling Brainstone activations and Snapcaster targets. Collective Brutality is very good against aggro decks like Burn. Dauthi Voidwalker is a very good card against decks like AsmoFood and BR Midrange and can be played in the main deck or the sideboard. I also Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip in these still of decks as a way of gain card advantage that can be replayed with Lurrus, although it is mostly a pet card for me and isn't really competitive.
1 month ago
You could replace Thought Scour for Strategic Planning , this way you make sure you mill the cards you want to mill and don't get screwed by chance. Sinister Sabotage or Counterspell could be a replecement for Remand . I do think Balaam_'s idea of adding Thoughtseize is very beneficial to your deck, it alows you to create a safer environement for Murktide Regent .
2 months ago
I think you're right about Jace, Architect of Thought and I will test some other stuff in this place.
2 months ago
looks like a v solid deck. I'd definitely consider adding the Geist of Saint Traft also definitely the Vendilion Clique you might be able to ditch all 4 of your creatures for 2x of those, and then replace the card draw with Frantic Inventory or Serum Visions something. but everytime I've played against the giest it's been a real strong time-buyer for my opponent. Also the clique is super clutch for getting to run some hand snipes in a U/W control setting, without having to splash black.
Also as far as buying time goes, doesn't get much better than some of the gideon planeswalkers. Gideon, Ally of Zendikar is insane, and of the trials is pretty good early pressure as well. I've played with Jace, Architect of Thought before and that card is straight trash let me tell ya
the Mission Briefing IMO fits better in a deck that runs some form of discard, I like splashing these in my B/U control along with Torrential Gearhulk for some graveyard play. You could maybe run Thought Scour and 1-2 Search for Azcanta Flip to get some graveyard pumping going.
Lastly, Elspeth, Sun's Champion is a pretty nice win condition but you could also go for some of those big 10 drop blue creatures (kind of like Thing in the Ice Flip you have sideboarded) or something like Shark Typhoon
oh also Day of Judgment pretty solid in white control decks.
2 months ago
Hey, well done on a low budget, nice flavor of sea creatures.
Consider expanding on looting? Looting is draw and then discard.
- Windrider Wizard : repeatable loot by casting an instant or sorcery and it's a flying creature for Octavia's magecraft.
- Frantic Search
- Thought Scour
- Mental Note
- Strategic Planning
- Chart a Course
- Compulsive Research
- Key to the City : can make Octavia unblockable until end of turn.
A reason to play more looting is to have more instants or sorceries in your graveyard for Octavia. Another reason is Wonder which is a card you want to discard and when it's in your graveyard and you control an Island gives all your creatures flying especially Octavia. Pair the flying effect of Wonder with Stormtide Leviathan who's a big sea creature upgrade. He makes all nonflying creatures unable to attack, but Wonder gives all your creatures flying.
Whelming Wave will consistently wreck your opponents creatures and not bounce your creatures including Octavia. Sol Ring and Arcane Signet are staple budget mana rocks in Commander. Kefnet's Monument reduces the mana cost all of your blue creatures and each time you cast a blue creature you get to tap an opponent's creature who could be a blocker.
Sea-Dasher Octopus and Thought Sponge are some small sea creature upgrades. Deep-Sea Kraken is another budget big sea creature upgrade. It's ability to remove time counters from itself whenever any opponent cast a spell is good in multiplayer Commander.
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
Hello, I saw your post about the deck and wanted to make a couple of suggestions.
You have some cards I think are of dubious value in your deck and would like to suggest removing them. You should delete the following cards; Thought Scour This card adds nothing to this deck's game plan. Spore Frog . Cut these and replace them with Empty the Warrens . Empty the Warrens can make blockers, increases your storm count, and can storm for even more goblins.
I also feel I have to make the obligatory mention about some of the better turbo fog and storm creatures you could replace them with; Augur of Bolas , Guttersnipe , Sprite Dragon , Snapcaster Mage and Electrostatic Field . If you really need to have a creature, make it a 4 of any of the creatures I just mentioned. But dump the frogs. If you really think fog effects are your answer then cut them for Haze of Pollen . Haze at least can raise storm counts or be cycled when the battlefield does not have serious threats in play. And the frogs would be gone.
Cut Nature's Spiral . It is too narrow and does not advance your win condition. I am also not happy with your enchantments either. I think I see your game plan using them but they hurt your odds of Storming off on your opponent and really only hurt yourself by slowing down your deck. I would cut Gaseous Form for sure. And suggest cutting Abundant Growth . I would replace these with copies of Echoing Truth and Growth Spiral . Both of these cards do the same thing those cards do in the short run, then they raise your storm counts and help win the game in the long run.
Your deck is missing two things that help turbo decks and burn/storm decks. Card advantage and mana rituals. Consider these cards when thinking about what to replace your cuts with or consider making room for some of them; Desperate Ritual , Pyretic Ritual , or Manamorphose . If you plan to keep Abundant Growth in your deck then these rituals have lesser value but I would consider dumping the growth for a playset of one of these or more depending on your card count. They up your storm count and provide the mana to cast more cards in the same turn adding even more to your storm counts.
For card advantage, consider making room for the cards like these; Opt , Sleight of Hand , Serum Visions , Pieces of the Puzzle , Behold the Multiverse , Brainstorm or Frantic Search . Some of these are cheap to cast with a small return but will really accelerate the deck and raise your counts. The bigger cost ones have bigger payoffs for card advantage but will make slower turns. Some other cards to consider are Browbeat , Risk Factor and the blue jump-start card Chemister's Insight . You don't see Risk Factor or Chemister's Insight in competitive decks as much but they are both good alternatives that can keep providing advantage or damage. I would consider adding 4-8 of some of these cards to give you card advantage and help refill your hand for bigger storms.
Two more suggestions that may have a place in the deck; Silundi Vision Flip can replace a generic island while letting you dig pretty deep to find one of your win conditions. You may even consider adjusting the mana base to make room for maybe even 2 of these.
Consider adding Past in Flames to the deck. This card really increases the chances of a win especially during long games by letting you replay all of your burn spells from the yard. It needs a big mana investment but it can finish a game depending on the state of your graveyard. I would seriously consider replacing two copies of Call to Mind and/or Nature's Spiral with a total of 2 copies of Past in Flames . I would keep it at two copies, it does need a big mana state to really work out for you and going to 3 or 4 copies will hurt the deck instead of help it.
Lastly, consider going to 4 copies of the good cards you already have in the deck. You should raise the counts of Lightning Bolt and Shock to 4 each for sure. I would also consider dropping copies of Fog to raise your counts of Moment's Peace . Generally, if you do need to fog the field it will happen later in the game so the mana cost is not as big a burden and the flashback makes them awesome.
4 months ago
I'd start by identifying what you want the main goal of your deck to be. I see two main ideas here that could be built around.
The first is dealing unblocked damage by disincentivizing blocks with deathtouch. Darkblade Agent , Eternal of Harsh Truths , Graveblade Marauder , and maybe Blightsteel Colossus (with enough reanimation) fit this archetype. Because of the two "blade" cards, there is some overlap with the second archetype which I'll cover next (and if you keep them, cards like Notion Rain , Mission Briefing , Thought Erasure , and Discovery / Dispersal are likely to get more mileage than Divination or Secrets of the Golden City ), but there may be even better ways to profit from unblocked creatures. Curiosity enchantments like Curious Obsession , Sixth Sense , and Keen Sense are frequent accompaniments to the Invisible Stalker s and other bogles of the world, and Bident of Thassa is a strong option for those going wide. I like Quietus Spike as a sort of midway point between Basilisk Collar and Master of Cruelties in decks like these too. Other beaters to get in with could be Tomebound Lich , Oona's Blackguard , Dimir Cutpurse , Looter il-Kor , Shadowmage Infiltrator , Surrakar Spellblade , Wharf Infiltrator , or Virtus the Veiled if he's legal in whatever format this is for. More generic deathtouch synergy could include Hooded Blightfang , Viridian Longbow , Thornbite Staff , Psionic Gift enchantments, and any source of first strike. Finally, I like Cipher as a way to gain advantage from repeated attacks, so maybe a Hidden Strings or Paranoid Delusions could come in handy.
The second main idea is to stack the graveyard(s) with as many creatures as possible to extract value from Undergrowth and similar mechanics. Avatar of Woe , Lotleth Giant , Trepanation Blade , Teferi's Tutelage , and some of your Disentomb effects fit here. Major threats in these kinds of decks include Wight of Precinct Six , Jace's Phantasm , Consuming Aberration , Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker , Fleet Swallower , Nemesis of Reason , Bonehoard , Mortivore , and Nighthowler . If you want to focus on your own graveyard, green is a great color to dip into as I alluded to earlier. Ghoultree , Boneyard Wurm , Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord , Splinterfright , Nyx Weaver , Nemesis of Mortals , Spider Spawning , and Kessig Cagebreakers are just some of the tools you get access to. Golgari is also the king of Undergrowth, so Hatchery Spider , Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , Molderhulk , Rhizome Lurcher / Undergrowth Scavenger , Kraul Harpooner , and Necrotic Wound are on the table. If milling your opponents is more your thing, some staples to consider are Thought Scour , Sphinx's Tutelage , Drown in the Loch , Traumatize , Fraying Sanity , and the crab duo. Jace's Erasure , Psychic Corrosion , and the Tutelage pair benefit the most from other draw synergy, and Visions of Beyond is an obvious inclusion if that's the route you take. Either way, I'd cut down to only the most efficient of your reanimate to hand cards and the like since you don't want to be stuck with a fist full of them and no creatures in the graveyard to target. Speaking of cuts, for maximum power, it's usually correct to play as close to the 60 card minimum as possible. Picking a single strategy to hone in on should make it easier to whittle down to the most important 60 in the deck.
If you have questions, let me know. Good luck with your build!
5 months ago
I haven't played a game of modern since pre-covid. I will probably be jamming grixis something once I'm back.
A lot of the top decks in modern right now (looking at mtggoldfish) are soft to lightning bolt and fatal push. The biggest issue I see is that a lot of those decks can shrug off the first 2 or so removal spells and still get there. Unless you have something to 2-for-1 or generate a lot of value, you'll just peter out. Spirits, in particular, is very hard to beat with just removal spells. Something more is needed.
It looks like graveyard decks are at an all-time low, which means graveyard hate is down as well. Maybe Thought Scour + Tasigur is good still? Maybe that plays well with Kroxa too?
Snapcaster Mage + Kolaghan's Command will always be really good for generating card advantage. I just don't know if grixis can get its engine going quickly enough.
IMO the biggest problem I have had playing grixis over the years is deciding if I want to play on my turn or their turn. Modern counterspells have been disappointing forever. UW shells can work with the available counterspells so much better than Grixis. Without counterspells in grixis you're so vulnerable to the opponent's topdeck.
What about this:
- 4 Snapcaster Mage
- 3 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
- 3 Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger
- 3 Cryptic Command
- 3 Force of Negation is this necessary? I'm not sure.
- 3 Drown in the Loch
- 3 Kolaghan's Command
- 2 Fatal Push
- 4 Lightning Bolt
- 4 Thought Scour
- 4 Serum Visions
- 22 lands (8 fetch, 5 shock, 4 basics, 5 misc depending on testing)
- 2 something else. Dunno. I haven't looked at the new set at all so I'm sure there are cards I just don't know about. Thoughtseize might also deserve a spot somewhere. I could see cutting Force to fit Thoughtseize and another Kroxa.