Creature — Elemental
Whenever a player casts a spell, you may put a +1/+1 counter on Forgotten Ancient.
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may move any number of +1/+1 counters from Forgotten Ancient onto other creatures.
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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Rare|
|Archenemy: Nicol Bolas (E01)||Rare|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Rare|
|Conspiracy: Take the Crown (CN2)||Rare|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Forgotten Ancient Discussion
2 weeks ago
Definitely look at Bioshift. Looks cheap and you can steal all the +1/+1 counters from one of your other creatures to move to Verazol. Combine with something like Cytoplast Root-Kin, Arcbound Fiend, or Galloping Lizrog.
Wild Onslaught is a cheap kicker instant that can add +1/+1 counters
Combine Guildmage gives more +1/+1 counters and can move them
A little more expensive of a card (~$) but would be a good addition: Forgotten Ancient
1 month ago
Hey, good creation and nice Secret Lair Blightsteel :)
You should consider buying the new Zendikar Rising Commander Land's Wrath precon. In the $20 precon are several cards that can improve your deck:
- Omnath, Locus of Rage: finisher, repeatable Elemental tokens with landfall.
- Zendikar's Roil: repeatable Elemental tokens with landfall.
- Arcane Signet: two drop Rainbow mana rock.
- Mina and Denn, Wildborn: play an additional land on your turn and return a land to give Omnath trample.
- Admonition Angel: repeatable exile opponent permanents with landfall.
- Obuun, Mul Daya Ancestor: repeatable +1/+1 counters with landfall.
- Waker of the Wilds: mana sink to turn lands into Elementals.
- Emeria Shepherd: recur or reanimate permanents with landfall.
- Evolution Sage: repeatable proliferate with landfall which is good with +1/+1 counters.
- Harrow: land ramp, puts two lands onto the battlefield to trigger Omnath and landfall.
- Kodama's Reach: land ramp.
- Return of the Wildspeaker: draw.
- Inspiring Call: protection and draw.
- Myriad Landscape
- Naya Panorama
This is a casual budget Elemental interaction, Risen triggers whenever any Elemental you control ETB which includes tokens. If you reveal a land with Risen then you put it onto the battlefield and create another Elemental which triggers Risen again. This can be a lot of card advantage with Elementals.
Another budget Elemental interaction that uses +1/+1 counters. Ancient is a good card for counters in multiplayer Commander because it triggers whenever any player casts a spell. The mana that Omnath makes can be used to activate Marath and you can keep doing this as long as you can keep putting counters on Marath. Omnath, Locus of the Roil, Obuun, Mul Daya Ancestor, Felidar Retreat, Evolution Sage can all be repeatable sources of counters onto Marath with landfall.
Some budget lands to consider adding to improve the manabase:
- Exotic Orchard
- Jungle Shrine
- Mystic Monastery
- Kessig Wolf Run: it's less than $1, mana sink to give Omnath pump and trample.
- Yavimaya Coast
- Battlefield Forge
- Shivan Reef
- Cinder Glade
- Canopy Vista
- Prairie Stream
The Pain lands: Coast, Forge, Reef you pay 1 life to make colored mana, but that's fine in 40 life Commander and since Omnath is a life gaining engine with landfall. Can get these lands for less than $1 each. The Battle lands: Glade, Vista, Stream would help the manabase since they have good interaction with lots of basic lands and you can get them for less than $2 each.
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Chulane is an insanely strong commander, and there are certainly ways to build this deck to be more competitive even on a budget. That being said it seems to me you would like a fun and casual +1/+1 themed deck that tries to win with Simic Ascendancy. Personally I think that sounds like a lot of fun and you should definitely build around it.
The first place I would start with the deck is using Tomer's suggestions from MTGGoldfish for building Commander decks. The bullet points are copied from one of his articles. Tomer explains these bullet points to be more like guidelines rather than strict rules you have to follow. Then the rest of the deck is filled with whatever you want to add.
- 50 mana; lands and ramp, usually a 37–13 split
- 10 sources of "card advantage;" I use this term loosely but am mostly looking for card draw or any spell that nets me 2+ non-land cards in hand / directly into play
- 6 targeted removal; split between creature / artifact / enchantment removal
- 3 board wipes; creature-light decks might want one more, creature-heavy decks might want one less
- 2 recursion
- 2 flexible tutors
- 1 graveyard hate; to shut down powerful graveyard recursion that everyone runs
- 1 surprise "I Win" card; something that can win games the turn you cast it without too much setup
So maybe more what you may have been looking for in your original question is what cards to add? Cards like Whitemane Lion, Shrieking Drake, Beast Whisperer, Primordial Sage, and cheap mana dork creatures work well with what Chulane wants to do. But as far as Simic Ascendancy and +1/+1 counters, some cards I'd consider are Managorger Hydra, Loyal Guardian, Forgotten Ancient, Herald of Secret Streams, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Inspiring Call.
https://edhrec.com/themes/p1-p1-counters is also a good resource. For the deck you're building I'd look at other commander decks that care about +1/+1 counters and proliferate like Ezuri, Claw of Progress and Ghave, Guru of Spores
I think Simic Ascendancy with Chulane is a really cool idea. Have fun deckbuilding!
1 month ago
I really like the direction you are going with this!
Some cards that might synergize well with your +1+1 strategy are Forgotten Ancient and Master Biomancer. Ancient gets counters very, very fast and can distribute as many as you want to Pako; Biomancer can help boost anything you get from you or your opponent's deck (or Pako when cast again from the Command Zone).
Have you also thought about adding any second combat phase cards? That seems pretty great with your theme as you can deal twice the damage and get double Pako triggers at the same time. Here are some that might be cool to look at: World at War, Relentless Assault, Fury of the Horde, Combat Celebrant, and of course Aggravated Assault.
1 month ago
Can you infintely cast the newly spoiled Skyclave Shade with Aluren from your graveyard? If so, I would put this in my Varolz, the Scar-Striped deck as a backup for if I were to lose my Endless Cockroaches. Pretty much infinitely sac the cockroaches to varolz and play them with aluren with a Blood Artist, Grave Pact, Forgotten Ancient, or any other thing that cares abt things being cast or dying. So would substituting the shade for the cockroaches still allow this combo to go infinite?
2 months ago
Looks good so far. You might like these: Spark Double, Invigorating Surge, Hunter's Insight, Hunter's Prowess, Psychosis Crawler, Cauldron of Souls, Forgotten Ancient, Crystalline Crawler, Gemstone Array, Prime Speaker Zegana, Lighthouse Chronologist, Kalonian Hydra, Gilder Bairn, Vorel of the Hull Clade, Death's Presence, Forge of Heroes
2 months ago
Hey, Evolutionary Escalation is an underrated card for counter strategies. Escalation goes well Atraxa's vigilance. With Escalation she will rarely not be the biggest creature on the battlefield attacking and defending. Sage of Hours is a powerful creature with counter strategies and with Escalation as well as Forgotten Ancient and The Ozolith. Sage combos with Ezuri, Claw of Progress with five experience counters for infinite turns.
I think you can afford to cut some basic Forests and Islands for dual lands that can ETB untapped: Command Tower, City of Brass, Llanowar Wastes, Yavimaya Coast, Brushland, Twilight Mire, Flooded Grove, Wooded Bastion. Nature's Lore, Wood Elves and Farseek are upgrades for Cultivate since you have Triome and Shock lands.
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
I find it really wierd you have no elementals (almost none) in this deck, the whole point of omnath is to flood out whith elementals, on that note some cards that do some serious work with omnath include Animar, Soul of Elements, Chandra's Spitfire, Fire Urchin, Forgotten Ancient, Guile, Lavakin Brawler, Scampering Scorcher, and especially Risen Reef is a power house, these are just a few that are good across the board then depending on your theme you can add others to make it truly insane, omnath can get out of control fairly quickly.