Forgotten Ancient
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Forgotten Ancient

Creature — Elemental

Whenever a player casts a spell, you may put a +1/+1 counter on Forgotten Ancient.

At the beginning of your upkeep, you may move any number of +1/+1 counters from Forgotten Ancient onto other creatures.

Thunder4 on A New Dawn for the Humankind 2.0

5 months ago

I really like a Hydra's Growth and Forgotten Ancient in my Kyler deck as well. Helps to make him, and everything, extra beefy.

Mortlocke on Atraxa, Angel of New Phyrexia [Infect Primer]

7 months ago

UltimateRoxas40 i'm always glad to see another Atraxa build as there is always something to learn from someone else's ideas. You have a great primer that goes into great detail, but perhaps a bit too much detail. Instead of discussing every individual card choice, maybe highlight them as combo pieces? For example: 

[[Ezuri, Claw of Progress + Forgotten Ancient]]

I think it would read a bit better and really highlight card combinations. I see that your deck really leans into the +1/+1 counters, have you considered Ozolith, the Shattered Spire, Branching Evolution, or maybe even Doubling Season? The first two have great synergy with a good number of cards already in the deck - the aforementioned Ezuri, Forgotten Ancient, Simic Ascendancy, Sword of Truth and Justice, and Biophagus just to name a few. I only mention Doubling Season because you mentioned you want to dip into the Incubate mechanic via Brimaz, Blight of Oreskos. Not only will you get double the tokens, but you also get double the +1/+1 counters placed on said artifact tokens.

MusicGoat18 on Progenitus EDH

8 months ago

Thanks again TheoryCrafter! I made cuts and changes based on your suggestion. I did my best to keep a balance while adding more cards for Zaxara, the Exemplary and Unbound Flourishing.

Cuts made:

Forgotten Ancient, Jodah, Archmage Eternal, Fist of Suns, Bootleggers' Stash, and swapped a few lands.

Cards added:

Shivan Devastator, Steelbane Hydra, Unbound Flourishing, and Bonfire of the Damned.

I still want to implement Progenitus' commander damage strategy on top of the hydra tribal idea, so I kept many of the exalt cards and mana fix/ramp. Another reason is that the ramp cards assist with values too.

ViscountVonSausageRoll on Green Counter Gang

8 months ago

Since Managorger Hydra has been suggested I feel honorbound to also suggest his older cousin Forgotten Ancient. A little more expensive, but more shenanigan-able. For instance with Branching Evolution

And since Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx has been suggested, allow me to suggest Rushwood Elemental & Chlorophant to make the most of the devotion. Also Garruk Wildspeaker goes great with it, and well with Wild Growth.

Your profile says you're a newer player, so if you're looking for more budget friendly generic ramp options (Nykthos is kinda pricey) Nature's Lore is pretty hard to beat for pure early value, Migration Path is 4 mana, but it's never dead.

Oh, also maybe Bioshift

bradtheimpaler13 on Xcellent Hydras (and friends)

9 months ago

Forgotten Ancient maybe?

Shnuff on Simic Frogs

9 months ago

So many frog buddies the word frog lost all meaning and I read Forgotten Ancient as 'Frogotten Ancient'.

I recommend Polymorphist's Jest and Turn to Frog if only to enforce your froggy-will upon the other players (though I'm sure it could turn the tides in a combat swing too). Grolnok would approve of casting them with Croak counters at instant speed.

multimedia on Muldrotha: Budget Elemental Tribe!

10 months ago

Hey, it sucks when opponents gang up on you, Disk and Deed unfortunately have that negative effect. At least you got to see Urza eliminated before you lost :)

If playing Disk and Deed then think of everything else in your deck as expendable, doesn't matter if all your stuff dies because all opponents will too. Muldrotha gives you this flexibility and by adding totem armor effects then Muldrotha can be saved from Disk or Deed if she's enchanted before they pop.

You're slowly removing Elementals making your deck Elementals in flavor, but not much else for the tribe or game play. Risen Reef is the only reason here be Elemental tribal and while it's a good card, it's not good enough to stick to Elementals.

  • Cavalier of Night, Cavalier of Gales, Cavalier of Thorns
  • Risen Reef
  • Mulldrifter, Foundation Breaker, Shriekmaw

These Elementals are good because for what they do there's not other better budget cards that are not an Elemental that could replace them. Playing an Elemental because it's an Elemental instead of a better budget card is not worth it when you don't have much Elemental tribal synergy. Some examples:

Sac outlets are how you can abuse Muldrotha ability with creatures, casting the same creature from your graveyard over many turns. Sac outlets can do more for Muldrotha strategy then some Elementals.

If you're against Eldrazi Titans then consider an exile creature effect because indestructible doesn't stop it and the Titan is gone for good, doesn't ever enter the graveyard after it's removed.

These are three options, Tear is best because kicked it can exile any nonland permanent. Resculpt and Shift are only two mana to exile a creature. The drawback of your opponent getting a creature afterwards is minimal because you'll be removing something much better. Pair any of these instants with Eternal Witness for a repeatable effect with Muldrotha. Either one of these could replace Return to Nature?

Another budget way to deal with an Eldrazi Titan is to it steal from your opponent and then wreck that player with annihilator. Steal a player's Commander and keep control it until Sower is removed. Stealing Sheoldred can be nasty since reanimation is quite good with Muldrotha. Sower is better because with any sac outlet that can sac a creature you can sac your opponent's creature you stole, it dies goes back to that player's graveyard or Command Zone and then you can sac Sower to repeat with Muldrotha. Sower could replace Forgotten Ancient?

Fauna adds a creature toolbox repeatable effect that can also fuel graveyard strategies for Muldrotha. The toolbox can be helpful because you have several creatures who are much better than the others. Fuana is also good with Wonder and Brawn as creatures to discard who want to be in your graveyard. Fauna could replace Icon of Ancestry?

Really consider cutting some basic Forests for more budget dual lands that have interaction with Forests or lots of basic lands? The allied Check lands have been reprinted in latest set Dominaria Remastered, now is the best time to get them since each are down to less than $4.

wallisface on Zalph

11 months ago

Youvegotplasticinyourlungs looks like a very interesting/cool build. The only cards i’m dubious of are Veil of Summer and Harmonize.

Veil of Summer feels weak because it’s doing nothing if your opponent isn’t playing blue or black. Green has loads of more broad protection spells if that’s your intention here - namely Vines of Vastwood or Blossoming Defense.

I’m not convinced with Harmonize because by the time you’re at that much mana, you should be dropping massive creatures, and this feels to me like a waste of a turn when you should be on the offensive. I’d swap this out for either another big creature, or more ramp (or some mix of that).

I guess lastly Hardened Scales feels like its only best on those creatures that add one counter at a time. Your creatures that are doubling counters probably don’t card too much about this card (its just 1 extra counter). I still think Hardened Scales is good here, but wonder if Solidarity of Heroes might provide you a bigger payoff… it’s hard to gauge so might need playtesting.

Personally i’d also drop the Forgotten Ancient so you can run playsets of Kalonian Hydra and Primordial Hydra. The hydras are definitely better, but it also makes your deck Modern legal if that ever mattered to you (personally I think this list looks surprisingly strong for its budget, and would do well against non-tiered decks).

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