Disciple of the Vault

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Disciple of the Vault

Creature — Human Cleric

Whenever an artifact is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you may have target opponent lose 1 life.

Kootaroo on Glissa the Traitor

3 weeks ago

I know last updated 4 years ago at the time of leaving this comment. still thought id maybe leave a suggestion or two. before I say anything Id like to say the glissa deck you have seems fun and is very different than mine. that isnt a bad thing i enjoy seeing alternate takes. she is/was my first commander deck i built as well.

Jhoira's Toolbox, by no means do I hate this card. might I suggest Welding Jar. Jhoira's cost 2 to cast, then another 2 to regenerate a target. Welding jar is 0, and Sac to Regen target. the obvious downsides and benefits are that Jhoira doesnt have to sac itself to regenerate. however it is specific to artifact creatures. Welding jar targets any artifact.

Doom Blade, i would replace with Assassin's Trophy. either or is fine imho.

Some cards i would suggest maybe but i dont have any replacement ideas would be, Grist, the Hunger Tide, Casualties of War, Ashes to Ashes, Grisly Salvage, Skullclamp.

by no means do you have to listen to any of my card suggestions as i said above i have no recommendations for what to remove for those cards. just some food for thought.

i used to run Triskelion in my deck i dont anymore tho. Myr Battlesphere is another card i used to run but took out as well. neither of them are bad by any means. i just removed them arbitrary reasons.

side note, it always makes me happy to see Disciple of the Vault. dont see that card too much these days!

ThatWeirdPerson on It's Just a Flesh Wound ($100 Meren)

3 weeks ago

Hey Juniordrc! Thanks for the comment, I should probably have been more clear over how the combo works in case people haven't seen it before. Basically, you sacrifice Lesser Masticore to Carrion Feeder, which triggers Disciple of the Vault and pings each opponent. When Lesser Masticore dies, persist triggers, returning it to the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter, however, Melira, Sylvok Outcast does not allow the -1/-1 counter to be placed on Lesser Masticore and so persist is free to trigger again some other time. This allows you to repeat it from the beginning and keep pinging each opponent for one, all the way up to infinite damage. Here is a commander spellbook link to the same Protean Hulk combo just using Viscera Seer over Carrion Feeder. Hope that helps!

Matso on Shirei of the Weak

1 month ago

Sorceress Queen, Disciple of the Vault, and Helm of Possession were in the deck early on; the helm eventually ended up in a clone deck, and the other two were phased out as I tried other things. I like equipment that can be re-used when you suffer a setback and there's some recursion for artifacts if it does end up in the graveyard.

DreadKhan on Shirei of the Weak

1 month ago

It's not new or shiny, but Gift of Doom might be a better source of Indestructible if you have access to Black. Morph isn't an ability as far as stuff like Split Second are concerned, so it's better than Flash arguably (imho it's usually easier to counter an Artifact vs a Morph creature in Commander, so that's a bit more upside). You can also protect non-Legends, not sure if that comes up, but the sacrifice cost can easily be an upside in this deck.

I kind of like the idea of Sorceress Queen, her ability can be used to nerf an opponent's creature, or to protect one of your bigger bodies (that doesn't have +1 counters). I couldn't decide if you have enough of your own bodies that she can protect, but I thought I'd mention it. I'm not sure if anyone plays decks that revolve around big haymakers, but if anyone uses them (or generically good Commanders) you can steal them with Ritual of the Machine or Helm of Possession, both require a creature, a cost you're very able to pay I suspect.

After thinking a bit more, would Disciple of the Vault do anything in here? It's a bit like Blood Artist in that it can punish decks trying to do unfair things (your group doesn't like infinites, but does it like treasures?), but it also lets you pinch people whenever any artifact of your own dies. and you do have a few artifact creatures/token generators. Disciple also works with Grim Hireling, but you need to be getting in consistently, I wasn't sure if your deck achieves that most games.

Great deck idea!

Gidgetimer on Does Liesa return Sword of …

2 months ago

LTB triggers (including "dies" triggers) check the existence of objects right before the triggering event happens. So what Liesa, Forgotten Archangel sees for the purposes of triggering is that an artifact was put into the graveyard. For the same reason something like Disciple of the Vault would trigger when Sword of the Realms  Flip is put into a graveyard, despite it being Halvar, God of Battle  Flip the entire time the card exists in the graveyard.

603.10. Normally, objects that exist immediately after an event are checked to see if the event matched any trigger conditions, and continuous effects that exist at that time are used to determine what the trigger conditions are and what the objects involved in the event look like. However, some triggered abilities are exceptions to this rule; the game “looks back in time” to determine if those abilities trigger, using the existence of those abilities and the appearance of objects immediately prior to the event. The list of exceptions is as follows:

603.10a Some zone-change triggers look back in time. These are leaves-the-battlefield abilities, abilities that trigger when a card leaves a graveyard, and abilities that trigger when an object that all players can see is put into a hand or library.

Azoth2099 on [KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

5 months ago

jameswarlord

Hey man! Good to hear from you, nice job refining this list so far!

Yeah, Avacyn, Angel of Hope is stupid expensive lol, she probably always will be just because of how awesome she is. Proxy it in the meantime? Hell, I'd proxy an Ancient Copper Dragon too, they both win games.

Concerning Burning-Rune Demon: This card tends to get cut from a lot of decks that aren't running winning lines for it. Personally, my Kaalia of the Vast list also includes Dockside Extortionist, Corpse Dance & Disciple of the Vault, which enables Burning-Rune Demon to grab Razaketh, the Foulblooded & Reanimate to enable either a same-turn win or a next-turn win by generating infinite Treasures (and infinite Life via Children of Korlis) and nuking the board. It's also really good in Reanimator lists that are running the aforementioned pieces, as well as cards like Animate Dead, Necromancy, Buried Alive, Victimize & Karmic Guide to accelerate sheer board value if you don't want to run combos like that. If you apply it creatively, it essentially acts as an uncounterable Intuition in the deck, but for no mana cost & at Sorcery speed. Not the worst...

Concerning catching Ws: the #1 thing that's going to snag you wins here is making sure that you capitalize on the Commander's value as quickly as possible, as well as making sure that your deck doesn't necessarily need it's Commander on the field to dominate. You need more ramp and card draw, simply. I'd add the following ASAP:

Ramp: Culling the Weak, Dark Ritual, Burnt Offering, Cabal Ritual, Pyretic Ritual, Desperate Ritual, Seething Song, Talisman of Indulgence, Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Conviction, Fellwar Stone Lotho, Corrupt Shirriff, & Deep Gnome Terramancer

Draw/Tutors: Archivist of Oghma, Moon-Blessed Cleric, Tectonic Reformation, Diabolic Intent, Gamble, Grim Tutor, Idyllic Tutor, Steelshaper's Gift & Sarkhan's Triumph.

Also, I know you've stated that you are trying to stay withing certain budget constraints, but Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor & Enlightened Tutor have seen recent reprints, and are cheaper right now than they will be in the future. Just something to consider.

All of these will help you get on and stay on! Let me know what you think.

Housegheist on Always time for second breakfast

8 months ago

I don’t wanna be picky, but that are more than your suggested 5 non-land cards from other sets (Agent of the Iron Throne, Putrefy, Mortality Spear, Netherborn Altar, Cranial Plating, Disciple of the Vault).

What do you think abiut using Call of the Ring. It provides constantly card-draw at a neglectable cost and constantly tempting triggers. Galadriel, Gift-Giver and Horn of the Mark can do some work.

May i ask you the reason of cutting Merry, Warden of Isengard? You will automatically tutoring him/Pippin, Warden of Isengard if you cast the other. Kinda-Cantrip.

But i like your approach. I restricted myself to up to 10 non-LotR cycle cards (lands too, currently used 9). Maybe we can share some thought?


Frodo & Sam (LotR only…almost)

Commander / EDH* Housegheist

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