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Disciple of the Vault
Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever an artifact is put into a graveyard from play, you may have target opponent lose 1 life.
Disciple of the Vault Discussion
3 days ago
@BolasFucks This deck is a solid OK. The meta this deck is played in allows proxies and plays at between 7-8/10. I was testing to see how an effectively budgetless version would function. The answer is... not great, but not bad either.
Jund Eggs is a terrible idea as running without Second Sunrise , Faith's Reward , or any real stack interaction is kind of rough. I chose Korvold, Fae-Cursed King as a commander because I really like him in concept. I chose eggs as a "win-con" because I like the challenge of eggs in Jund. The deck functions.
Win Conditions require performing some variation of Eggs combo (replacing the aforementioned white cards with Scrap Mastery for a similar effect when possible) with Disciple of the Vault , Reckless Fireweaver , or Korvold, Fae-Cursed King out. If I'm able to go effectively infinite, I either ping the board down with the first two or draw my deck with my commander. With the big Dragon I can Chandra's Ignition for well above lethal. Beating face with him is a last resort, but a valuable one.
I run a variety of interaction:
Pia's Revolution does a surprisingly good job for pseudo recursion against low life targets, especially with how often artifacts go to the graveyard from play with this deck.
Noxious Revival hits key graveyard based combo pieces when we need it, or saves some of our own.
I think that just about covers all the odd parts, the rest are either Eggs, ways to get key parts, or more common pieces of interaction.
1 week ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. I don't think adding Woodfall Primus and Greater Good will help to bring consistency. It's adding more CMC which is what you should cut from your deck not add.
Primus has potential as high end creature with an aristocrat theme with Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat , but you're not playing that theme. Melira, Sylvok Outcast can prevent -1/-1 counter from stopping persist thus you can loop Primus with a sac outlet destroying all your opponents noncreature permanents. Adding an aristocrat to this loop makes it infinite life loss for opponents.
There's also an infinite persist combo that Protean Hulk can tutor for: Melira, Sylvok Outcast + Lesser Masticore + Disciple of the Vault + Viscera Seer . This combo is looping Masticore with Seer resulting in infinite life loss of opponents from Disciple since Masticore is an artifact.
You have part of a game winning combo that Hulk can tutor for already Mikaeus and Seer. Adding Walking Ballista who's CMC is 0 finishes the combo by doing infinite damage to your opponents with Ballista. Cards that can reanimate and sac Hulk are powerful especially at instant speed: Necromancy , Apprentice Necromancer , Wake the Dead and Footsteps of the Goryo .
1 month ago
Korvold, Fae-Cursed King could be an interesting choice. He would allow a lot of draw off your tokens. You could also put in some of the green clue cards like Tireless Tracker and some of the treasure producers like Dockside Extortionist and then make Disciple of the Vault a secondary win con for you.
1 month ago
As others have said, you should be in good shape. Mono Black can be very easy to run on budget, excellent at creature removal, and can find ways to out tempo ramp decks.
I wouldn't worry about blocking ramp as much as I would focus on creating it in your own way. Along the lines Dark Ritual or Artifacts. Cabal Stronghold is the budget alternative to Cabal Coffers . Crypt Ghast might be slightly out of budget, but does the job of Nirkana Revenant somewhat cheaper. I'm a huge fan of Life's Finale , which is criminally underplayed and pretty budget, especially in a meta that isn't in their own graveyards too much. It's always good to have a boardwipe or 2 on deck, but I find mono black can get quite a lot done with spot removal, and that is far easier on a budget. You already have Damnation when you need it. Black Sun's Zenith is also an option because you can proliferate the counters later. Lashwrithe and/or Nightmare Lash are good and not expensive. Disciple of the Vault is again criminally underplayed if you want to go that route. Get yourself some cheap tutors cause thats Black's go to. Diabolic Tutor , Scheming Symmetry , Beseech the Queen are the best budget options. Card draw is a must, and you get Sign in Blood , Read the Bones , and a host of other cheap draw spells to go along with you Phyrexian Arena .
And I hate to be that guy, but infect is pretty budget, on theme, and works wonders even if you just splash it as a win con. Tainted Strike Plague Myr Ichor Rats . You can then use your Commander to pay and discard a card a few times to win.
Black has a ton of options even on a budget. Just depends which way you want to go.
3 months ago
3 months ago
There's a couple of 1 CMC creatures you can sacrifice for assorted effect, though most of them tend to be pretty limited to specific situations (to find these, you can run a gatherer search with "sacrifice" "creature" "CMC = 1").
I went through the entire list of 1 CMC creatures, and there really are not many great options. Here's a list of I came up with of creatures that (a) don't require a sacrifice to use, and (b) might be considered hatebears (though some are so niche that they bearly made the cut).
3 months ago
Hey! I always thought Shrauum was a cool commander, and I love that you're running Zur's Weirding (it's one of my favorite cards). Here're some suggestions -- feel free to ignore any/all of them:
Xerox cards are your friend. Ponder and Preordain belong in pretty much any blue deck, as they can dig you to what you need and past what you don't. Being one mana means they make marginal opening sevens into acceptable hands. Similarly, Brainstorm is fully capable of being very good, though it requires more of a build-around. In order for it to be good, you need some cards to assure that you don't get Brainstorm -locked; that is, stuck with two cards you don't want on top of your library after resolving Brainstorm . The easiest way to deal with this is to simply crack a fetchland after resolution, as the shuffle-effect unlocks you. While the Onslaught and Zendikar fetches are the best for this, Evolving Wilds , Terramorphic Expanse , Prismatic Vista or even just Flood Plain or Bad River are good, too.
Currently, Narset, Parter of Veils is one of the most busted cards in EDH. Preventing decks from drawing extra cards essentially means she is a 'must answer' before anything else can happen, and if you pair her with your Windfall you can win the card-advantage war in one fell swoop; this interaction is also favorable with your Dark Deal .
Speaking of card-advantage, you are in the best colors for it. Fact or Fiction is a very good card, especially since you put the pile you don't choose into your graveyard. Since your general reanimates artifacts, this means the card is straight card-advantage. Treasure Cruise and Painful Truths are two draw-threes I've been very impressed with, mainly due to their frequently low casting cost. Dig Through Time is one that is good too, though I don't advise running it and Treasure Cruise at the same time, as delve can get in its own way. I think Treasure Cruise is better if you want to keep your combos secondary, and Dig Through Time , which provides more card selection and less card advantage, is good if you want your combos to take the front seat.
As you mention in your description, your landbase can use some work. This, I think, is actually not as big a deal as one might think though, since you have a lot of very good two-mana mana-rocks that produce your colors. Still, if you're looking to improve the deck, this is an area with potential. If you end up running fetch lands, be they Onslaught, Zendikar or Slow (see (1)'s Flood Plain ), you should at least run the on-color shock lands. Godless Shrine , Hallowed Fountain and Watery Grave can all enter untapped, and being able to grab them with a fetch land means their odds of coming out in a game go up drastically. You may want to run them even sans fetches. Mana Confluence and City of Brass are good, as they are tri-lands that ETB untapped. The check lands (that is, Drowned Catacomb , Glacial Fortress and Isolated Chapel ) are only a few dollars now and offer consistent improvement. The pain lands ( Underground River , Adarkar Wastes and Caves of Koilos ) should also be considered.
One card that I think you should test with is Bitter Ordeal . This IS a combo card, but I think it is likely better than most of the other ways to profit off infinite death/ETB triggers associated with your general + copying artifact combo. There are several reasons I say this. One, it is a sorcery. This means that, if you choose to run Mystical Tutor (which I suggest you do), it can find the payoff half of your combo; right now, this would only be true if you run Enlightened Tutor (I also advise this). Running an artifact/enchantment payoff to grab with Enlightened Tutor and another sorcery-based payoff to grab with Mystical Tutor means that you can tutor for a win-condition card off either of the tutors. Second, there are fewer answers to a sorcery than a permanent. Winning with Disciple of the Vault or Altar of the Brood requires that they stay on the field throughout the resolution of the combo; a well timed Abrupt Decay , Isolate or Swords to Plowshares / Nature's Claim means lights out. While Bitter Ordeal can be countered, so can the permanents; running Bitter Ordeal just means you narrow the number of possible answers your opponents can have. Third and finally, Bitter Ordeal is really only stopped by a Leyline of Sanctity effect. It is worth noting that there are ways that opponents can prevent being milled out by Altar of the Brood (like running Kozilek, Butcher of Truth and even benefit from it ( Tasigur, the Golden Fang or Whisper, Blood Liturgist come to mind), and ways that they can avoid dying to infinite drain ( Lich , Platinum Emperion and Platinum Angel come to mind). Again, Bitter Ordeal just limits the number of answers opponents can have.
Alright. That's all I got. Good luck!
5 months ago
Alrighty, so I had a look at the list a here are a few things I picked up (also, I'm working under the assumption of infinite budget for now):
You're running very heavy on removal, probably more than you need to be. I would personally lose Vindicate , Beast Within and Anguished Unmaking . On the flipside, the new Force of Vigor looks really good and can help get rid of Rest in Peace effects. UYou also have cards like Silence , Orim's Chant , Veil of Summer and Imp's Mischief which can be used to protect your combo. There's also Grand Abolisher , however I like Silence a bit better.
As for card advantage, some cards you could consider are: Mentor of the Meek to trigger on your dorks/saprolings, Summoner's Pact which can get Hulk/Saffi, Runic Armasaur which is meta dependent but can be very good, Tymna the Weaver who again is meta dependent but can turn your dorks/saprolings into cards and Painful Truths which is better than Phyrexian Arena since it gives you the cards immediately.
I'm not sure I like the Lesser Masticore combo. I feel like it's a very specific line that doesn't do much outside of it. and outside of combo, Disciple of the Vault and Melira, Sylvok Outcast are effectively dead cards.
Those would be my thoughts for now at least. I hope this gives you a few ideas.
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