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Return any number of target nonland, nontoken permanents you control to their owners' hands. Draw a card for each card returned to your hand this way.
Paradoxical Outcome Discussion
17 hours ago
I'm not sure what kind of budget you're looking at, so I'm going to try to keep from suggesting anything too up there.
I'd swap out Purphoros for Reckless Fireweaver . You'll probably end up doing the same amount of damage, but I've found it paints less of a target on you. And Riddlesmith can give you an effect that's similar to Jhoira's, if you want the redundancy.
Stoic Rebuttal is at best Counterspell , and at worst no better than Cancel , so I would just run Counterspell. I know you'll have the Metalcraft 99% of the time, but other than flavor there's no reason to use it instead.
One of the nice things about this deck is how little color mana you need, so I'd upgrade your lands. Since you're running two artifact lands you may as well add in Darksteel Citadel too. Buried Ruin is great for any artifact heavy deck. And Ash Barrens , Grixis Panorama , and Shivan Reef can help color fix for you without slowing you down or hurting you too much. You only have four potential triggers (plus I guess two more for the X spells you have) for Sanctum of Ugin , so I would run another tutor over it, but that's a personal preference. I would also swap out more Mountains for Islands, since your deck is blue heavy, but if you don't have any problems with the ratio then don't worry about it.
Hope some of this was helpful!
4 days ago
KailDaemon Hey there, I'm currently working on building this deck and I had a couple of card choice questions that I was wondering if you could clear up for me if you have time:
- Aether Spellbomb - Is there a combo with this or is it just in cause it's cheap utility?
- Chain of Vapor - Is it for a combo or just bounce because we're so permanent light?
- Narset's Reversal - Seems really limited in what it can target. Has it been good? Any combos with it?
- Gemstone Caverns - Thoughts on this? Too inconsistent?
- Intuition - What are your piles?
In my playgroup Top and Tabernacle are both banned sadly. What would you run over Top? Future Sight? Paradoxical Outcome ? Blue Sun's Zenith/Stroke?
I really like your build and the great discussions you've been having with folks in the comments. Thanks for putting this all together : - )
1 week ago
I miss some cards in your list and am curious about your decisions to exclude them.
There are some inclusions I'm not very fond of:
Could you tell me your reasons for including the later cards in comparism to the earlier mentioned cards?
1 week ago
Hey, how did Spellskite perform so far? Also curious about Trail of Evidence ; I was thinking Paradoxical Outcome as well. Its kind of a blue Ad Naus with Urza and artifacts on the field and can also bounce a Winter Orb or Static Orb eot in case you dont have him out.
2 weeks ago
I think you're on to something here. I've been tweaking around with this style since seeing this deck. Here's what I've come up with.
It cleans up Karn's wish board a bit, adds Mirrodin Besieged both for a second instance of Thopter generation and for an alternate win-con. You can also bounce it with Paradoxical Outcome once you have 15 artifacts in your graveyard. Since lots of the artifacts sac to do things anyways, this is a really viable secondary win condition for the deck and it shores up the primary Thopter win-con as well. It also isn't legendary, letting you stack multiples. Running Everflowing Chalice and Chalice of the Void in place of the Chromatic pieces has a few benefits. For one, either can be cast for 0 to gain Thopters right before a Paradoxical Outcome ; secondly that leaves you with no 1 or 2 CMC spells in the deck letting Chalice of the Void obliterate most of the meta-game that relies on 1 and 2 CMC spells. Bye-bye Humans and Thoughtseize! Turn one Chalice for 1 is also really easy to achieve with this many 0 cost artifacts. Blast Zone and Ghost Quarter are the non- Island s that I chose to run, mostly because I can reuse them with Crucible of Worlds in the side board, giving the deck two more avenues of repeatable control. Having Bottled Cloister and Ensnaring Bridge in the side board gives you another full lock to pair with Mycosynth Lattice .
Anyways, really awesome deck idea you have here. You really inspired me!
2 weeks ago
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1 month ago
I love the list, guys. Fantastic as always.
1 month ago
Honestly any of your high cost creatures could go in my opinion. Paradoxical Outcome with a bunch of cheap artifacts and jhoira out can draw you a ton of cards and give you an easy win with aetherflux reservoir or something with storm.
Paradoxical Outcome occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%