|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
Combos Browse all
Return any number of target nonland, nontoken permanents you control to their owners' hands. Draw a card for each card returned to your hand this way.
Price & Acquistion Set Price Alerts
|Have (11)||Spinalripper , acbooster , Regulus1010 , Kiortio , gildan_bladeborn , ecurps , jhTheMan99 , , KB2187 , firemind12 , PhotogenicParasympathetic|
Paradoxical Outcome Discussion
1 day ago
I was thinking something pseudo-stormy. Mostly creatures with entirely colorless costs, and I could chain them for free if I stack the mana costs correctly. As in, I cast a 1-cost creature then 2-cost creature then a 3-cost creature, etc, and pay zero mana total (off of an Animar with only 1 counter). I.e. heavy value abuse to generate huge board states very fast. This is also really "cute" with Paradoxical Outcome.
There are also five viable infinite storm combos in those colors that I'm aware of: Cloudstone Curio+two creatures that are free with Animar; Cloudstone Curio+Aluren; Aluren+self bounce creature; Palinchron with Animar at 4 counters; or Ancestral Statue if Animar has 4 counters.
All of these also have the side effect of making Animar into a LARGE/LARGE, so I could win by giving Animar trample, or just playing Grapeshot or Aetherflux Reservoir or something. And of course if the combo doesn't go off, there's always a Blightsteel Colossus or Emrakul, the Promised End to close out the game :)
Are there any cards that you could think of that could help with this strategy? Primarily in giving Animar counters faster, cheap and strong creatures that happen to be colorless in cost, or giving me the draw that's required for a storm deck...
I've never tried building proper storm in EDH - several of you have far more experience in that arena than me. What's worked for you?
This is my brainstorming page: anistorm
1 day ago
I like all the 1 mana artifacts with Salvaging Station. If you do add the station add as many of the 1 mana non-creature artifacts from your maybeboard as you can!
not sure about Quicksmith Spy, doesn't look like you have many untap effects to really break it
Solemn Simulacrum seems too fair for a combo deck, especially with a low curve.
speaking of low mana curve, Thran Dynamo could maybe go?
Thirst for Knowledge is great!
could Inspiring Statuary be good in here?
maybe Temple of Deceit?
3 days ago
Ok I will take that into consideration, but usually when you bounce something with Paradoxical Outcome you are already on your way to winning, also I don't know what I would take out for it. I can't take out anything that draws cards because that part of the deck is a little bit week and I don't think I could take anything else out.
5 days ago
Also, Sigarda's Aid is a good sideboard card, but I'd only run one or two, since they are TERRIBLE to draw in multiples! They help protect your puresteel and sram against burn or -X/-X spells, particularely that they cast in response to Retract.
No Sigarda's Aid scenario:
- 2/30 puresteel paladin, opponent doesn't stand a chance at killing him
- You cast Retract / Paradoxical Outcome to bounce all your artifacts back and cast them again
- Opponent responds to your first equipment cast by casting lightning bolt on your puresteel!
- It dies
Sigarda's Aid scenario:
- Opponent responds to your first equipment cast by casting lightning bolt!
- You respond by dropping a dozen equipments that directly equip to Puresteel
- Puresteel is saved!
Basically, you only need Sigarda's Aid against decks that have damage based removal.
5 days ago
I don't know if you ever watch magic online videos, but it's possible you could switch this over to be a cheerios deck with a few changes. If you'd like to see it in action, SaffronOlive over at mtggoldfish played a similar deck :Cheerios
You can also take a look at my version of the deck if you'd like: The Honey Nuts
I do like the inclusion of Paradoxical Outcome as an alternate way to draw cards. I may try it as a 1-2of to see if it helps me avoid fizzling during a combo turn. SSG could indeed be a budget alternative to Mox Opal for the big combo turn, although if you watch the videos you often need it for blue mana to cast Retract.
5 days ago
Contraband Kingpin is just scry, but more defensive then Sram. Non-equipment artifact activate his ablility, so you can find key card efficiently. also his health and lifelink is good
Tezzeret's Touch is also good. You can make plan B by attacking 5/5 creature. When you cast Paradoxical Outcome, you can choose Tezzeret's Touch because it is aura, so you can draw one more. Even if opponent destroy 5/5 creature, you get back artifact in hand.
I would appreciate it if you look at my decklist. UB Aetherflux bomb
6 days ago
Ah, I didn't see them. My bad, but Paradoxical Outcome is super strong for storming off.