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Each player shuffles his or her hand and graveyard into his or her library and then draws seven cards. (Then put Timetwister into its owner's graveyard.)
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7 hours ago
Heh, do you realize that power nine cards are actually banned in all commander formats? So moxen and Timetwister should go...
Anyway, I would not go to see you for the second time after showing up with such deck...
Do you play with friends or just mock unsuspecting random strangers? You better bring friends because you will not make any. Do you realize that people generally play Magic because thay want to actually play their cards and have fun? Stax is valid strategy, of course, but there are other ways to win other than completely disgust your opponents, dude :)
8 hours ago
Why don't you add Timetwister? First you can say you are playing the only legal piece of power nine in commander, it has a massive price tag on it, and when you need to justify it it's graveyard hate.
Another consideration is to add in Bazaar of Baghdad. Again big price, and is a rather decent draw engine and allows you to dig extremely quickly through your deck, and it will confuse people just as much as your Chains of Mephistopheles. To someone whom only knows how Demonic Tutor's "take cards from your library" means will think you get to tutor the two cards, and they also think the not casting between drawing and discarding I have seen people think be a static effect as in between draw phase and clean up. So you can have a bunch of fun trying have them figure it out on there own to just be explained by draw two discard 3. Although the card disadvantage can become a major burden very quickly so just be careful about it. So this one maybe you don't need to add but it's still nice, trust me I played a hyper competitive The Gitrog Monster deck, and Bazaar of Baghdad was the best card in the deck.
4 days ago
MegaMatt13, the biggest downside I see with Diminishing Returns is exiling critical cards in your deck. You won't always hurt yourself that much, but there is always the chance you exile away the majority of your remaining win conditions. As a replacement, Frantic Search seems like a pretty good card, actually netting positive mana when Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix is in play and giving you some card selection. A more costly replacement but a great card for the deck would be Time Spiral as it removes the drawback and gives you the land untaps, making it a free spell. Similar to Search, with Kydele in play, this will net lots of mana. If you did use this as a substitute, you cast Spiral, get the Timetwister effect, untap six lands, then tap Kydele and some lands to cast an eldrazi you drew into.
The Spellbook from my point of view, takes up a slot and has very little to offer. The reason cards like Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower are played and quite good at that is because they serve another purpose and come with an upside. You could really replace this with anything, but it's your deck so play what you enjoy.
4 days ago
Hi Fresh303, thanks for the suggestions!
Only reason Cyclonic Rift isn't in here is because it's banned in my playgroup. You won't see it in any of my blue decks. Cards like Evacuation, Whelming Wave, Aetherize, and Aetherspouts are used in its place.
I see how Seedborn Muse would be great in here. My only copy of it is in my Rhys deck where I think it's more needed. It's kinda pricy so I don't want to buy a second copy.
Of your other suggestions, Teferi interests me the most! Untapping 4 permanents, including Kydele would be huge.
I'm curious what downsides you see with Spellbook and Diminishing Returns. The 10 cards exiled by Diminishing Returns is a small price to pay for a Timetwister effect. It powers Kydele really well. Spellbook I'll grant is fairly low impact. I just like being able to hold on to all the cards I draw. What are your thoughts?
1 week ago
benw mirko vosk is a 2/4. He doesnt have hexproof, indes, or shroud. Dreadbore, Terminate, Go for the Throat, Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares, Decimate, Wing Snare, Pongify, all of these kill him. Most before he could deal damage. the only evasion he has is flying, in which green snipes him down all day too.
Most cedh decks run at least 31 lands. 31/4 is roughly 8. Thats 5-8 times you need to hit a SINGLE player to mill them out. And many players run some sort of graveyard shuffle, like blue with Timetwister. And this is multiplayer cEDH. Which means you have 2 other opponents besides the one you just hit. And getting in even 5 hits with him? well hes a 5 drop. Say you get him out turn 3. By then, zur and teferi have usually set up most of the lock if not all. then youre talking another 5 turns to kill 1 person off milling. Thats turn 8, and by then someone else probably won. Even if you want to add in all those other fun things like Glimpse the Unthinkable and Archive Trap, they wont bring you much further. Maybe speed up everything by 2-3 turns for 1 player. But mirko still wont be able to win quickly without Helm of Obedience and Leyline of the Void. By the time you get them out if you had to hardcast leyline? turn 3 activation, which someone can stop pretty simply too. Its hard to explain all the fine details but this is the best i can do on lack of sleep lol
1 week ago
Definitely get The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Mishra's Workshop, Timetwister...then probably some arabian nights stuff like Bazaar of Baghdad, Diamond Valley and so on. That's something not everyone plays, it's different from just buying more expensive versions of cards everyone uses, such as duals.
1 week ago
Yet another combo you can run, well, it can't really be called a combo, but you get the idea, that can break the will of any EDH player to continue is Time Reversal/Time Spiral/Timetwister + Sunder, which basically means everyone starts back at square one.
Another combo-yet-not-really-a-combo-combo that I came across could be Sundial of the Infinite + something like Smokestack. End the turn as soon as you put the soot counter on Stack, and face no negative repercussions.
1 week ago
TheRedGoat: Not really. You see, Black has always had the ability to trade 1 life for 1 card at any other cost - Phyrexian Arena for example. Your examples are also costed at , whereas Blue gets it without the lift gain for . The difference is slight, but it's there.
And no, it's Timetwister spelled backwards. Or at least it should be.