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|Tempest Remastered (TPR)||Mythic Rare|
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If Mox Diamond would enter the battlefield, you may discard a land card instead. If you do, put Mox Diamond onto the battlefield. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard.
: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
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Mox Diamond Discussion
2 days ago
Go for it! The deck is running a few sub-optimal cards (missing stuff like Mox Diamond, Noble Hierarch, the rest of the ABUR's, Imperial Seal, etc) however it sould still give you a good enough translation over to your deck.
1 week ago
I no longer have the dryad.
My binder is way out dated. My deckbox list (link on binder page) is 95% updated (always trading and building), but have lots unlisted (like extra C17).
I will look at your lists to see if I have enough trades on you wish list.
1 week ago
Last_Laugh, what are your thoughts on the three signets and Talisman of Indulgence? I cut all four for Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, another land (37) and Stromkirk Noble. I am not sold on Stromkirk but he seemed the best of the one drop vampires I was not playing. This deck seems to need to go fast and both Moxes seem to fit that strategy.
I experimented with Glengarry's 29 Land Edgar deck. I could be wrong but I think it may be tough for it to win in a four person pod. I am trying to borrow some of the ideas that have synergy with your deck. Gone are some of the more expensive vampires:
These were replaced by mostly one and two mana vampires. I am playing Shared Animosity, Coat of Arms, Purphoros, God of the Forge, and Eldrazi Monument. The first three really care more about the quantity of vampires over the quality.
I am also trying out Scapegoat which I borrowed from Glengarry. It seems in theory to be a card that mitigates the damage done from board wipes.
I am not playing Phyrexian Arena, Heirloom Blade or Greed. I have only cast Dark Prophecy once but it was effective. I am playing additional life gain vampires and may be able to negate some of the life loss.
What do you think? With which of the points are you in most disagreement?
1 week ago
I get that its important, but your losing 2 cards for one. In the case of Mox Diamond, you can just play the land instead of discarding it and making a mana source that is prone to artifact destruction. I get it can help with early Talrand, but what do you do when you draw it late game?
I get that, just thought you might want another one was well. Once people know what your wincon is, they can just use Jester's Cap or Card:Sadistic sacrament among other cards to get rid of them before you draw them.
Moreover, I used to run Mana Crypt but it often killed me more times than my opponents did.
1 week ago
A couple suggestions...
Disallow - Very useful and versatile
Memory Lapse - With Isochron scepter ;)
Misdirection - Much better than it looks!
Rewind - Im assuming this build is multiplayer? If so, this is a must.
Blatant Thievery - I don't run any real "finishers" or "combos" in my deck. So this card usually helps seal the deal.
Overburden - SO USEFUL. Note: Does not affect tokens.
If you have some time, feel free to check out my competitive deck Tisk Tisk Talrand for some other ideas.
2 weeks ago
Great deck idea! This is the first cycling burn edh I have seen so far (and I've seen a lot! ;D )
You say you sometimes lack the speed to successfully overrun your opponents so the most simple way to gain speed is utilizing more ramp:
Use mana rocks and maybe some green ramp spells to be able to cycle even more. Great mana rocks for your deck are Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond, Mana Vault, Sol Ring, Gruul Signet, Dimir Signet, Izzet Signet or Simic Signet for example.
Also there is some nice card draw which can make your deck even faster: Sylvan Library can draw you three cards instead of one and Sensei's Divining Top is another awesome way to put the cards you need on top of your library. Hope that helps!
2 weeks ago
Hey buddy, here are some tips I would suggest in order to make your deck more competitive. Unfortunately voltron is not the strongest right now, but that doesn't mean you can't give your sexy lady Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas everything that she deserves.
Lands:Things like Boros Garrison that come into play tapped need to go, unless they are part of a winning combo, and even then that is sketchy. Add Sacred Foundry to your mana pool for essentially another Plateau. Also, add more fetchlands to fix your mana. Fetchlands also have a benefit of thinning out your deck so you have a better chance of getting to what you want. Ancient Tomb is also a great land for you. So is Inventors' Fair!
Artifacts:You are missing the essential artifact ramp package of Chrome Mox, maybe Lotus Petal, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond, and for your deck even Mox Opal due to your amount of artifacts. You could even add the 2 artifact lands to help with metalcraft. Lotus Petal is a person call, but I could see you going without. If you need more ramp then maybe ones like Mind Stone or Prismatic Lens. Howling Mine gives a benefit to all of your opponents as well, so I would suggest cutting that. Any mana ramp that comes into play tapped should probably be cut. In addition, since your deck is slower than many other decks and require combat steps, I would recommend adding artifact stax pieces to slow people down. Ideally you want pieces that hurt your opponents more than they hurt you. Things like Winter Orb after you play your commander. That way your opponents have less resources to deal with your stuff. I would recommend checking out competitive decks to see what stax pieces they use and seeing which ones would work best for you.
Creatures:You have a lot of expensive creatures that don't completely go with your wincon with your commander. I would also straight up remove Skyknight Legionnaire. I would definitely add Stoneforge Mystic to have another tutor and a way to flash in artifacts. I would also recommend using stax creatures to hurt your opponents. Maybe something like Ethersworn Canonist since you play lots of artifacts. I believe there are other white creatures that tutor up artifacts, you should check them out. If you want to add creatures that can you can equip things to besides your commander, maybe look at things like Kemba, Kha Regent or Monastery Mentor. You can also rock the awesome Recruiter of the Guard. Also, have you met your future friend Magus of the Moon?
Enchantments:You have lots of stax pieces here which I think is good. I would recommend adding more with things like Stony Silence. I'm not sure how well Ghostly Prison works with your deck, so if you need to cut things it should also be one of the things to go. And probably most importantly, hello Blood Moon!
Instants/Sorceries:Faithless Looting should be an instant add. I would also say Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast should be for sure additions. They can counter counterspells and destroy blue permanents. If you want wheel effects then good old Wheel of Fortune should be added. Red has access to some okay draw effects through cards like Tormenting Voice that can help you go through your deck. Sensei's Divining Top might not be a bad card for you either. You also have a tons of board wipes. Yes, having one or two can be nice, but not that many. Rolling Earthquake is really solid, and if you want Wrath of God isn't bad either, but after that more spot removal is probably best.
Overall Recommendations:I would recommend dropping your overall cmc with cheaper costed cards that help you win with your primary wincon, Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas, more efficiently. Stax pieces could help you out a lot with slowing others down too. Adding something like Isochron Scepter + Final Fortune + Sundial of the Infinite is a relatively cheap way for you to get infinite turns and to pull out a win. I would also recommend more draw spells, they can help you go through your deck to the good stuff more efficiently. Once you drop the cmc of the deck you should cut lands, I wouldn't go over 32 with the ramp you will have.
3 weeks ago
hey outofnothing0! i was adviced, playing your list in a multiplayer game, to runPhyresis or Battle Mastery (to swing for death my opponents faster and winning the game also with the help of helm of obedience rip combo) what would you advice? also phyresis read in the flavour text "Perfection is at hand. You have been freed of weakness and made compleat." and it seems to pair so well with zur that i wonder if it was made for him.Also i haven't bought a Mox Diamond yet but i wonder,seen the hight price, if a mana vault could replace it or not as a mana rock.thanks a lot for the advice!