Diminishing Returns

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Eternal Masters Rare
Masters Edition Common
Classic Sixth Edition Rare
Alliances Rare

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Diminishing Returns

Sorcery

Each player shuffles his or her hand and graveyard into his or her library. You exil the top ten cards of your library. Then each player draws up to seven cards.

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Diminishing Returns Discussion

Daedalus19876 on The Ten Plagues: Locust God EDH | *PRIMER*

2 weeks ago

RingoDingo92: Thanks, man! If you have any questions about how it works, or what I could improve in the description, let me know :) with regards to Training Grounds, I don't actually use The Locust God's loot ability very often. If I do, it's almost always with infinite mana, so the cost reduction doesn't matter much to me. I just think it's a weak ability, even for UR :(

pauldiamond64: I draw into it very easily with my wheels, however, and I want to immediately win if I resolve it. It's not my only path to victory by a long shot, but it's one of my 7 primary win conditions (which will be expounded upon when I update the description). And 5 mana is a lot when I intend to win T4 on average with this deck.

TheLitchKing: Thanks! I actually intend to upgrade that primer later this evening; stay tuned! ;) The things that turns me off of Whir of Invention is the high blue cost :(

Klancik: The summoning sickness is a big deal, though. Several of my win-cons intend to storm off in one huge combo turn, and I can't do that with her unless I give her haste :( I do want to include her, but Diminishing Returns has proven itself many times...

mumuxx1234567890: I might do that! Thanks haha.

fgator5220: I'll take a look once I work through this terrible backlog of decks to review, lol!

Klancik on The Ten Plagues: Locust God EDH | *PRIMER*

3 weeks ago

Daedalus19876: Would Diminishing Returns be a good one to take out for Nin, the Pain Artist? She's two less mana with her only downside being no haste. Exiling ten cards from the deck isn't too big of a downside in EDH but still a downside.

buildingadeck on Dralnu DD

3 weeks ago

I didn't see Grim Monolith and Mox Diamond. Your list is a little harder to read in its current layout. My bad.

Catalyst Stone is much less applicable than Sapphire Medallion in my experience. We aren't always able to Paradox Dralnu, so reducing the cost of more of your deck is better.

As for JVP and Snapcaster, I think you made the right choice swapping JVP for MD. As for snappy, I would consider Notion Thief. Diminishing Returns or Whispering Madness can replace Rhystic Study. I would consider Praetor's Grasp and Spell Pierce depending on your meta. I've really liked Pull from Tomorrow in my list.

In regard to land cuts, I think you get to add more spells.

buildingadeck on $750 Storm Jeleva

3 weeks ago

Is Diminishing Returns good for you? How many times has it screwed you? I was thinking about it in my Dralnu list, and was unsure.

zn.tportlock on The Eighth Plague on the Third Hour

1 month ago

Love it! Maybe Mana Vault, Windfall, Diminishing Returns, Inner Fire, Desperate Ritual, Pyretic Ritual, Seething Song, Rite of Flame, Trinket Mage and an expensive manabase would be nice if you had all the money in the world haha :P would potentially remove some counterspells to accommodate

VincentVonVeltschmerz on

1 month ago

+Gravitational Shift: comeon dood

+Favorable Winds: prevents comboing out with Skullclamp but I still think its worth

Vivisection => Time Reversal: A lot of things can replace Vivisection, why play a bad Harmonize?

Dragonrage => something else (idk Arcane Denial?): Okay it's cute that you can cast x-cost instant draws with it, though you can't attack with those 1/1s, or kill someone with Cmdr dmg, but being a bad Trumpet Blast on the baseline I don't think this will make the cut. Could be wrong though

Think you might need one more Elixir of Immortality effect. Maybe one of Day's Undoing, Diminishing Returns, Learn from the Past, or Psychic Spiral for dat nostalgia

I also think you need at least one more Spellbook effect. One of Library of Leng, Venser's Journal, or Spellbook itself

Lastly I think more acceleration is probably need. 6cmc is up there and I imagine people will be hesitant to let you untap with him. Not to mention the number of X-cost draws that will reward you for having lots of mana

Sidenote, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind + Curiosity is going to anger me. A lot.

Fresh303 on Kydele and Silas: Eldrazi Sultai Summoners

1 month ago

MegaMatt13, the biggest downside I see with Diminishing Returns is exiling critical cards in your deck. You won't always hurt yourself that much, but there is always the chance you exile away the majority of your remaining win conditions. As a replacement, Frantic Search seems like a pretty good card, actually netting positive mana when Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix is in play and giving you some card selection. A more costly replacement but a great card for the deck would be Time Spiral as it removes the drawback and gives you the land untaps, making it a free spell. Similar to Search, with Kydele in play, this will net lots of mana. If you did use this as a substitute, you cast Spiral, get the Timetwister effect, untap six lands, then tap Kydele and some lands to cast an eldrazi you drew into.

The Spellbook from my point of view, takes up a slot and has very little to offer. The reason cards like Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower are played and quite good at that is because they serve another purpose and come with an upside. You could really replace this with anything, but it's your deck so play what you enjoy.

MegaMatt13 on Kydele and Silas: Eldrazi Sultai Summoners

1 month ago

Hi Fresh303, thanks for the suggestions!

Only reason Cyclonic Rift isn't in here is because it's banned in my playgroup. You won't see it in any of my blue decks. Cards like Evacuation, Whelming Wave, Aetherize, and Aetherspouts are used in its place.

I see how Seedborn Muse would be great in here. My only copy of it is in my Rhys deck where I think it's more needed. It's kinda pricy so I don't want to buy a second copy.

Of your other suggestions, Teferi interests me the most! Untapping 4 permanents, including Kydele would be huge.

I'm curious what downsides you see with Spellbook and Diminishing Returns. The 10 cards exiled by Diminishing Returns is a small price to pay for a Timetwister effect. It powers Kydele really well. Spellbook I'll grant is fairly low impact. I just like being able to hold on to all the cards I draw. What are your thoughts?

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