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Long-Term Plans Discussion
3 weeks ago
Cards are good Ghostly PrisonTemporal TrespassPart the WaterveilBeacon of TomorrowsExpropriateSwarm IntelligenceTime StretchTemporal MasteryBrainstormMystical TutorWorld at WarSeize the DayEnlightened TutorLong-Term PlansSavage BeatingTime WarpFury of the HordeWalk the AeonsDarksteel PlateSwiftfoot BootsAggravated Assault
1 month ago
Consider adding some of these: Dissipate, Capsize, Into the Roil/Expel from Orazca, Wizard's Retort, Swan Song, Rite of Replication, Unwind, Myriad Landscape, Reliquary Tower, Thought Vessel, Disallow, Spell Swindle, Merchant Scroll, Muddle the Mixture, Aphetto Alchemist, Siren Stormtamer, and Gilded Lotus.
Here are the changes I would start with however, swap Syncopate for Disallow. Then Spell Pierce for Swan Song, Disappearing Act for Wizard's Retort, Divination for Dig Through Time or Preordain, swap Silent Departure for Into the Roil, Capsize, or Expel from Orazca, swap Dispel for Muddle the Mixture, Aether Spellbomb for Fellwar Stone or Sky Diamond (More mana rocks will help for what i'm suggesting below if you want to consider that route), and Tamiyo's Journal for Gilded Lotus (As you just don't have enough ways to make clue tokens, and it's kind of slow anyways. Instead focus on making lots of mana, tapping and untapping your creatures to draw lots of cards).
There is also of course Mind Over Matter and I have one myself, it is a very powerful card that pairs well with things like Temple Bell, Psychosis Crawler, even Azami, Lady of Scrolls. But admittedly it is quite expensive of course, I just thought I would make you aware of this card nonetheless. You listed the deck as budget, but I wasn't sure to what degree this means, whether that's no card over $10-$15 or what.
Dramatic Reversal is another one I highly recommend, it could be sweet if you pair this with an Isochron Scepter, and that's why cards like Long-Term Plans, Merchant Scroll, Mystical Tutor, Fabricate you could more often have these. Then you can either make a ton of mana, or perhaps even infinite if you have a bunch of mana rocks out and or Paradox Engine. You could win then by casting stuff like Blue Sun's Zenith, Stroke of Genius, among other things.
Depending on how much your willing to spend other ideas include: Rhystic Study, Mind Over Matter as previously mentioned, Patron Wizard, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, Laboratory Maniac maybe could be good here, Maze of Ith, Riptide Laboratory, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Tolaria West, Path of Ancestry, and Sensei's Divining Top (Just ordered one of these myself in fact last night, it is such a useful card that can be used in a lot of decks imo).
I know I suggested more to include than what I suggested to in turn remove, I can help more with this if you haven't solved it all yourself already once i'm done with exams in 3 days. In the meanwhile I recommend you visit the website edhrec.com wihich might be a lot of help to you if your not already familiar with it!
1 month ago
You want it degenerate?
Either of those creatures + Food Chain is infinite mana for creature spells, and then you can cast Zegana, exile her, re-cast her, exile her, etc., until you draw your whole library (stop short of drawing out, obviously). Cast Laboratory Maniac, and then exile/re-cast Zegana again to win.
To adequately protect this combo, I'd recommend reducing the average costs of your counter spells and protection so you can have them available to cast before setting in on this loop (because Lab Man getting destroyed/exiled with the last draw trigger on the stack is extremely bad). Recommendations are: Swan Song (it counters almost everything that messes up this combo basically), Flusterstorm, Negate, even Pact of Negation could be a good idea.
Long-Term Plans would be a great way to find Food Chain.
2 months ago
1) Depends on your fast mana situation. My decks tend to run about 50-55~ mana sources, both lands, rocks, and rituals. My Sisay deck, for example, has 31 land but 24 additional mana sources on top of it (I kind of need it for Paradox Engine). 35 + 20 or so should be fine, really, since your Commander will be 6 mana.
2) Talisman of Progress should be in, and Mind Stone isn't bad either as it can be an extra card when you're 'comboing off'. Coalition Relic also seems pretty reasonable since it can +2 mana in one turn even if it is 3 mana. Grim Monolith, too. Narset needs more mana rocks that the typical deck now since you can't sculpt your hand with Vancouver mulligans and it needs to race to 6 mana ASAP in order to keep up.
3) I would personally run all of them except savor the moment, lol. Even Temporal Trespass.
4) Teferi's Oath is probably the best of the bunch, and if you get it for free then it's not bad. The new Teferi is probably much better than gideon of the Trials. Or Gideon Jura, for that matter. Just straight up drawing a card is good.
5) I dunno, probably 10-15. They shouldn't take up 20% of the deck because
6) No, it doesn't. Rest in Peace is a replacement effect, Tamiyo's emblem is a triggered ability. The card doesn't even go to the graveyard to trigger the ability of her emblem.
7) Spot removal should absolutely be in. Swords to Plowshares stops pesky creatures, and anything reasonably cost that gets rid of enchantments would be good too (otherwise how will you beat Food Chain). As for Wraths, just a few basic ones. Very few tier 1 decks actually rely on a mass of creatures, so in mine I just run like Toxic Deluge or something, but a simple Wrath of God or two wouldn't be bad.
Inexorable Tide probably won't be able to contribute enough to warrant its slot over, say, another extra turn spell. Even if you can put loads of counters on your Planeswalkers during a Paradox Engine chain, you can still only use them once per your turn (unless you have a Teferi emblem/Oath). Same goes for Djeru. For example, what does Inexorable Tide bring to the table that Omniscience or Enter the Infinite does not?
Anyway, a list of extra turn spells I would run in addition to what you have:
Extra combat steps are also extremely good with Narset. Some being:
Consider Omniscience and Enter the Infinite, because then you can, say, cast EtI off of Narset's trigger, put Omniscience on the top deck, cast literally any extra combat step card (Fury of the Horde works with 0 mana open), swing Narset again, cast Omniscience, and then cast every single card in your hand for 0 mana cost. With this, Bacon of Tomorrows becomes your top deck card every single turn, resulting in infinite turns in which you can tick up your Planeswalkers and swing with Narset for the victory. With Bacon, all things are possible, after all.
Anyway, long post. Hope it helps, lol.
3 months ago
Time for more testing and changes!
3 months ago
Archaeomancer doesnt have enough targets to be worthwhile, which makes Eerie Interlude and Ghostly Flicker seem less viable as they only get one use. Reveillark also has too few targets. master of waves loses his creatures every time he bounces unless there is a pump spell in play like Angel of Invention or Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. cut Magus of the Moat, yur flyers aren't enough to win the game. i cut Peregrine Drake for Cloud of Faeries in my deck, i found it did a lot more for me to drop it earlier on, especially with Azorius Chancery, Temple of the False God and Coral Atoll. Darksteel Mutation is worse than Journey to Nowhere or Oblivion Ring as they can really lock out opponents' commanders by getting repeatedly bounced. not a lot of colourless sources for Eldrazi Displacer - cut it or add mana rocks. I would add about 4 lands (40 lands minus one per 2 mana rocks 2 mana or less is a good general rule).
Other than that, there are a lot of high-costed cards - I would have a lower curve, with game-winners at the top.
Lastly, figure out what your win condition is. Your deck should go all in on that. My guess is you want to produce a bunch of tokens and have them beat face. If you can pump them, that would help a lot. I would get a tutor for Cathars' Crusade (something like Idyllic Tutor or Long-Term Plans) and if I had one card to suggest it would be Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite.
Hope this helps!
3 months ago
3 months ago
What are your thoughts on these cards? Long-Term Plans Reason- second cascade Mystical Tutor Reason- second cascade Worldly Tutor Reason- second cascade Mana Drain Reason - nets mana in almost all cases. You cascade with open colored mana, counter maelstrom, recast maelstrom. You have it in hand, use as a counter, get mana, cast commander. Only time it fails is when you cascade with no open mana. Then it is a dead spell Spelljack Reason - one extra cascade trigger Sneak Attack Reason - infinite mana with Palinchron. If you have already considered these cards, whether they were no fun, expensive, or didn't flow with the deck, sorry for the inconvenience.