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Long-Term Plans Discussion
1 week ago
Hey man! Good first draft! I like some of the ideas in here. I have some constructive criticism for you, so, as brutally honest as I will be with my suggestions, keep in mind I’m just offering my best advice on how to improve this list. I tested this deck a bit and here’s some thoughts I have:
More Tutor / Draw: You’re running very little card advantage, which I noticed when I was testing this deck. There isn’t enough dig or deck manipulation going on here. Basically every time I found myself durdling. Here are some suggestions:
- Sensei's Divining Top
- Scroll Rack
- Crystal Ball
- Courier's Capsule
- Wheel of Fortune
- Stroke of Genius
- Mystic Remora
- Jace Beleren
- Long-Term Plans
- Land Tax
- Academy Rector
- Idyllic Tutor
- Madblind Mountain
- Fetch Lands. Literally any fetches.
More spot removal: Your deck doesn’t have a lot of ways of dealing out targeted removal. Mass Land D and other sweeper spells are great and all, but you also need ways of handling individual problems as they arrive. Here are some suggestions I have:
- Path to Exile / Swords to Plowshares
- Seal of Cleansing / Dispeller's Capsule
- Return to Dust
- Crush Contraband
- Shattering Pulse
- Shattering Spree
- Chaos Warp
- Lightning Bolt
More Persistent harassment: You’re running MLD, Tax, but you aren’t running a whole lot of effects to consistently torment the opponent. Smokestack, Pendrell Mists, Kataki, War's Wage, Manabarbs keep pressure on your opponents. Even just running more stuff to slow things down (Winter Orb, Tangle Wire, Kismet, Rule of Law, Stranglehold etc.) would be useful here.
Consider less creatures, more enchantments: Hatebears are cool, but consider the fact that they are easier to kill than their enchantment counterparts. Magus of the Moon dies much easier than Blood Moon and you want these effects to have a good return on investment. This one is more food for thought than actual criticism.
Suggestions for cuts: Hall of Heliod's Generosity (?): It’s a great card, but right now you aren’t running enough Enchantments to justify it. Most of the time it’s going to just tap for colorless. If you run more Enchantments, it’s a keeper! (I think I’m going to try and find a slot for my own deck)
Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain: This is pretty vestigial. It’s not really pulling much weight. Cut it.
Karn, Silver Golem: See above.
Tomik, Distinguished Advokist: I get what you’re going with here, but you’re blowing up your lands anyway, making them untargetable is kind of moot. There’s a bunch of hatebears I’d rather run in this slot.
Saltblast: This card is kind of bad. Costs waaay too much for targeted removal. Also, is completely dead against decks that run white. I’d honestly remove this and replace it with Wrath of God instead.
Karn, the Great Creator: Not doing enough. I see the combo with Mycosynth Lattice, but Hellkite Tyrant is a much better combo.
Empowered Autogenerator: Too slow, too expensive. It’s not as good as it looks. Ideally, rocks should slot into the 0-3 CC range. If you desperately wanted something in the 4 slot, why not just run Thran Dynamo instead? It’s more consistent.
Firemind Vessel – See above.
1 month ago
This is a nice list. I do have a few suggestions though and I'll try to break it down by category.
Ramp: I'm not a fan of either Gilded Lotus or Thran Dynamo here... they don't really ramp you into Narset. Consider Pentad Prism (only 2 drop rock that'll ramp 2 different colored mana in the same turn... albeit once). Copy Artifact copies mana rocks (or an extra Strionic Resonator for extra combats). Coalition Relic and Worn Powerstone are other mana rock options. Crystal Vein and Ancient Tomb are 2 good land options here also.
Pillowfort: Smoke is worth its weight in gold here. You probably have enough extra turns/combats that you can drop the Propaganda/Ghostly Prison though.
Feel free to check out my list for ideas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Narset, American Beauty
1 month ago
Last_Laugh I appreciate the advice. I’ll definitely swap out those 3-mana rocks for the better options. I’ve definitely thought about adding more haste enablers, so I’ll look into pushing one or two into the deck. As for the tutors, I must admit that I thought I already had Long-Term Plans in there but I guess I must’ve missed it, so thanks for catching it. Again, great advice and I very much appreciate it, thanks!
1 month ago
Main thing I'm seeing is your ramp needs some TLC. As the previous poster stated... avoid mana rocks that cost + but only add 1 mana and drop Gilded Lotus. Lotus Petal, Azorius Signet, Boros Signet, Izzet Signet, Pentad Prism, Talisman of Conviction, Coalition Relic, Basalt Monolith, and Worn Powerstone are all better options. Also consider Generator Servant and Crystal Vein.
Feel free to check out my list for inspiration. It's not budget friendly as a whole but still plenty of budget options. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Narset, American Beauty
1 month ago
I have a few suggestions for you and I'll try to break it down by category.
Ramp: Drop all 4x rocks that cost but only add 1 mana. Arcane Signet, Pentad Prism, Basalt Monolith, Lotus Petal, and Coalition Relic are your best budget(ish) mana rock options you don't already run. Also consider Generator Servant and Crystal Vein.
Pillow Fort: Smoke is amazing here.
Auto Haste: Dragon Breath will automatically enchant Narset every time you recast her.
PW: Ral Zarek is handy for his untap ability (Strionic Resonator is easily my favorite target) and his ult is pretty easy to hit for 2-3 extra turns.
Feel free to check out my list for more ideas, it's one of the top rated Narset lists on this site. It's not budget friendly as a whole but still plenty of options. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Narset, American Beauty
1 month ago
Yeah, thanks for the upvote :)
I've had a lot of fun with the deck so far. I haven't managed to get much out of the Wild Pair package. Since there are no actual tutors in the deck for getting out enchantments that's been a bit difficult.
I'm actually considering Gamble and Long-Term Plans as 'soft' tutors purely for the Wild Pair and once I've got that for cards such as Vicious Shadows and Warstorm Surge.
The deck is still pretty new, and I'm still fine-tuning it. I've now only played it four times since I've been busy with other stuff lately:
- Game 1: Won through getting value out of an early Momir Vig, Simic Visionary, keeping it safe with the counter creatures and smashing face with Forgotten Ancient and Master Biomancer making my team bigger.
- Game 2: It was a five-player game where the first one to knock the two opponents directly to the left and right of you wins: Kept board-control and ramp up with Yasova Dragonclaw and Perilous Forays. Almost died to a ridiculous Arixmethes-huge-stompy-creatures deck, but turned it around with the Reins of Power I was sitting on (such an over-performer). And later shared my victory as our shared opponent got knocked out by the other player.
- Game 3: regrettably had to spend most of my time and resources on an Orzhov player that kept recurring the Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite that rendered the rest of my cards mostly useless. Later everyone got kicked out by a combo player going off
- Game 4: Didn't win, didn't get quite the engines going that I wanted to. But the game (5-player FFA) was crazy enough as it is.
I would say that for now the deck is good enough at battlefield control (particularly creatures), but as I mentioned I want to look into options that make the Wild Pair actually work (in none of the games I drew it so far).
I've since added Warstorm Surge, because that card can do stupid things once you get something like Glen Elendra Pranksters or other bounce and some ramp or control creatures. I've added Ambush Viper to go along with that. Swapped those for Llanowar Elves (in our meta often not dependable ramp since it's too fragile) and Briarhorn, since it having flash mattered less for the creatures it could look up and Yasova can usually steal enough interesting creatures with just 4 power.
Apart from the tutors I'm considering adding Purphoros, God of the Forge, since the incremental damage can quickly add up and the +1/+0 is actually really nice for Yasova, but I only have one copy of Purph and it's a key part of my Wort, the Raidmother deck.
1 month ago
Nice. I run a Niz-Mizzet deck but don't have Thousand Year Storm. Mine isn't exactly budget but you can look at it for some ideas. I'll tell you the budget cards that I do run though.
I think you could switch Doublecast for Reverberate or run both of them. Putting some extra turn spells would make for some explosive plays especially if you have Thousand year storm out. I run Karn's Temporal Sundering and Part the Waterveil which are both pretty good budget options. There are more options out there but they can get pretty pricy. I like to run Faithless Looting any chance I can get. It's pretty good here because it triggers Niv-Mizzet and has flashback so you can cast it from the graveyard if you need to. I think Echo of Eons is pretty cheap right now, in a few years that price will go up. If you can't get that card, Magus of the Wheel is a pretty good budget option but it's a creature so you can double it with thousand year storm. I like running card filter effects in my Niv-Mizzet deck so I can get as many triggers on him as possible. Compulsive Research, Drawn from Dreams and Fact or Fiction are all pretty good budget options. Leyline of Anticipation is a little pricier but it just got reprinted so if you can pick it up I would recommend it. Long-Term Plans is a tutor in blue that not many people know about and I think would work super good in Niv Mizzet. I don't run it but I probably should. Last notable mention is Psychosis Crawler. Synergizes super well with Niv-Mizzet and spreads damage out in a way similar to Guttersnipe.
Maybe this was a bit much but if you have any other questions feel free to message me. Good luck with your deck!!