If one or more tokens would be put onto the battlefield, twice that many of those tokens are put onto the battlefield instead.
If one or more +1/+1 counters would be placed on a creature, twice that many +1/+1 counters are placed on that creature instead.
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Primal Vigor Discussion
2 days ago
Looks like a fun variation on a totally busted commander :) Got a few ideas.. I'm surprised you didn't include Rosheen Meanderer over something like Cultivate just because its a creature that can pump Animar. Not sure if you know about how Ancestral Statue goes infinite with Animar by self bouncing, that seems like an easy include. Vizier of the Menagerie should be amazing in this deck with so many creatures to cast off the top. Primal Vigor has potential to make your hydras much more formidable. Gruul Ragebeast could be great too. Colorless cards like Sandstone Oracle, Duplicant, and Artisan of Kozilek are in most Animar builds too. Happy Gathering!
5 days ago
When playing Primal Vigor does this effect just your creatures and tokens or all of every ones creatures.
6 days ago
Thanks for the tips! I'm not sure if Jedit Ojanen of Efrava looks cool here (I'm not sure about the metagame in my city, but if I see a lot of green decks it may be a good choice)
I'm trying my best, but my Doubling Season and Primal Vigor don't fit in my budget at the moment... Chalice of Life Flip and Test of Endurance could be nice Win Conditions and I'm surely giving them a shot!
6 days ago
I would max out token multipliers, adding Doubling Season and Primal Vigor. Also more ways to take advantage of your life could be great, such as Test of Endurance, Chalice of Life Flip, and Sphere of Safety. Hope this helps!
1 week ago
Well, if you can tell me what it's centered around, I can probably help you a little more than I can at the moment. For the moment, I will assume +1/+1 counters.
Rishkar, Peema Renegade turns the creatures with counters on them into basically mana dorks.
Avatar of the Resolute, Undergrowth Champion, Renegade Krasis, Cytoplast Root-Kin, Gyre Sage, Fungal Behemoth, Champion of Lambholt, Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit, maybe Sunbringer's Touch, Cathars' Crusade, and Death's Presence are also nice.
For some more value with your +1/+1 counters, you can run Ainok Bond-Kin, Tuskguard Captain, and Abzan Battle Priest. Same can be said about Solidarity of Heroes, Inspiring Call, Armorcraft Judge, etc.
Once again, I sort of jumped to conclusions about your deck upon seeing some of the cards in it. I hoped these suggestions are on the right track of what you wanted this deck to be, and good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
Thankk you for your suggestions HotShot14.I do have Primal Vigor but i always think its helps my opponents to much. Maybe i should give it a try...tokens and counters i produce plenty with this deck. Doubling Season is by much better and would help this deck greatly. Kalonian Hydra goes on the maybeboard..very good card.
1 week ago
I love the idea of this deck so +1 from me. What are some more pricey cards that would make this deck better? I know Doubling Season maybe Primal Vigor. I am really considering making this deck and I would love to run a more competitive version. Also, I know it's a bit more expensive than some of your other cards but Kalonian Hydra just seems too strong not to include it in this deck. Maybe even Primordial Hydra
2 weeks ago
Hi there! I've played Ghave since I started in Commander probably 4 years ago, and I've got some suggestions for you:
Recruiter of the Guard and Birthing Pod would probably serve you better than Diabolic Tutor and Primal Vigor (Recruiter can find Academy Rector, which finds Doubling Season if you require it to combo out, ergo, you don't need as many redundant doubling effects). Parallel Lives could go if you'd prefer to keep Vigor, though, as Lives doesn't really work in too many of the 3-card combos by itself (off top of my head, it only goes infinite with Ghave and Ashnod's Altar, Ghave and Earthcraft, and Ghave and Phyrexian Altar, just like Illusionist's Bracers). Anyway, Recruiter is insane, run him for sure since he finds all but 5 creatures in the deck.
Corpsejack Menace isn't as good as Bloodspore Thrinax. Menace doesn't enable any 3 card combos, while Thrinax can by sacrificing one token (he goes infinite with Ghave and one of Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, and Earthcraft). Ivy Lane Denizen is also just kind of a worse Champion of Lambholt, for whatever that's worth.
Try Devoted Druid over Chromatic Lantern or Coalition Relic. On that mana base, you're not really going to be strapped for colors and Druid goes infinite with Cathar's Crusade as -1/-1 counters and +1/+1 counters cancel out (which also means infinite tokens by casting Ghave).
That's about it. I always love Ghave decks, so make sure to have fun with it.