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|From the Vault: Angels||Mythic Rare|
|2011 Core Set||Mythic Rare|
|2010 Core Set||Mythic Rare|
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Creature — Angel
Flying, first strike, lifelink, protection from Demons and from Dragons
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Baneslayer Angel Discussion
4 days ago
Some suggestions for your current lifegain strategy.
1 week ago
Creatures with flying and or deathtouch or both and lifelink seem good here because these creatures are much more likely to do combat damage to an opponent thus gaining you life which lets you use Licia's casting cost reduction ability without having to use mana and additional cards to reduce it. My suggestions are Vampire Nighthawk, Baneslayer Angel, Angelic Skirmisher, Victory's Herald some of these give all your creatures lifelink or other abilities.
Some other suggestions in no order:
- Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
- Obzedat, Ghost Council
- Tymna the Weaver
- Vizkopa Guildmage
- Faith's Fetters
- Mastery of the Unseen
- Path of Bravery
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Cyrialis: Hey man thanks for the help and comments, you're bringing some great stuff to the table.
Oh ya for sure. Definitely linear, but I have a couple decks I run. There's just something about Kaalia of the Vast that I love. I agree on Sneak Attack I would still like to add it and see how it runs though I feel like it could help if Kaalia of the Vast is out of commission.
I have never seen Boompile, it is really really cool. I'm so close to adding it. I think it'll definitely be the first wrath I add in if I add any. Great suggestion thanks.
No! Not Scourge of Kher Ridges! I cannot argue against what you said, but this is a toolbox-y deck and he has just been such a lifesaver soooo many times. My group runs goblins and elves sometimes and he literally does more than even the playing field.
I can get behind you with Baneslayer Angel. She was honestly just added as a low-cost value creature in case Kaalia wasn't working out. She is the most vanilla creature in the deck for sure.
I have been really noticing the lack of card draw in this deck and have been eyeing Dragon Mage for a while. He is pretty perfect. I'm just worried that filling up my opponents hand could mean a nasty removal or worse in the long run, but so far he's a for sure include, thanks! Along the same line, what do you think about Wheel of Fortune as more card draw? I have the same worries as before tho..
Also how do you feel about Dark Confidant? Price tag aside.
I really do like Hellkite Tyrant. When he is dropped with Kaalia it is such a devastating surprise on the opposite end. I think in my play group it is very worth it, but I could see it being a sideboard. It's pretty great, I mean I get the artifacts and they don't.
My friends and I have been playing mtg for a year and a half and about two months were spent playing 60 card before we went EDH. So maybe an honest year of realistic adding and dropping. I mean I am still working out the kinks and awaiting any beautiful angels, dragons, and demons that come out.
Seriously thanks for all the help man. What deck do you normally run against your friend's Kaalia deck?
2 weeks ago
kgrey2 :/ it is a bit too linear for me sometimes. But that also makes it that strong. (says the dude who unironically owns a green creature palooza deck...) sneak attack sounds great but I feel it is in this deck, where you do not have a lot of card draw in general a kind of "win more" card. Since you will most likely have access to kaalia throughout most of the games, most time of the games. Especially if you have a card you can consistently fetch with your tutors already :/
Ahh okay. Sounds really solid. Lord of the Void is just outright terrifying as a card.
Hmm. I think we could discuss for hours on that one. As long as the deck as such works in your group then thats fine. Its true that kaalia actually prefers fewer boardwipes, since she is the one provoking them... One of the things I could recommend though IF you decide to include one I would say Boompile is fun. Why? it hits even planeswalkers, you can tutor for it and answers need to be cast BEFORE flipping the coin, so every body needs to prepare for the worst. and in there is a 50% Chance of it performing as a faster version of the disc and a 75% Chance of it performing as good as.But I just tthrow this out there as a suggestion. For me this card works a boon.
Note: Eiganjo Castle I am a fan of your inclusion, especially with Nyleas Bow as an almost auto include in most green decks this is a quick and dirty answer, if maze of ith is not around. Completely forgot about this card!
If you think of including land hate, why not Decree of Annihilation for its cycling cost? it is instant speed card draw + land hate and almost nobody sees that one coming. I played it every now and then in my Boros Deck beside Armageddon. I think one inclusion is good enough, but tempo wise you should be ahead anyway. I see how this could be devastating, but it feels more like "win more" I dont know if additional attack triggercards wouldnt be better...But for that I would need to playtest this and a bit often, but sadly university gets in the way for the next weeks.
(note: the longer I look at the list the more I like it. especially the additional value the recursion brings. Even though I get the feeling that this gets targeted quite heavily early game.)
Scourge of Kher Ridges - I think there are better cards, there is enough high ground control and the rest shouldnt be too much of a problem for you. This depends on the Match ups I guess, but you already have enough targeted removal and I dont know if the mana isnt spent better otherwise or if you even want to keep mana free for this.
Baneslayer Angel - a strong card and include. I know it is strong. Lifelink, as you also said, is nice... But including additional utility creatures would be better I think. Dragon Mage Could be a nice Addition for more draw.
Hellkite Tyrant - This, as well as the first card I mentoined depends really on your match ups (I have an artifact based Purphoros deck, that probably would hate this cards guts...), but again, feels a lot like win more, since the trigger comes so obvious, that I feel this card just drawing a lot of heat. But alternate Win condition and stealing is nice. Jury is still out on this one.
You have a nice Mana Curve and excellent Manacards, so I dont think here is much to be done, except adding in cards to sideboard or switch for changes in your local meta. Looks REALLY good.
How long did you build on this?
Sorry for the late reply, but university is killing me right now. Have a nice evening. Cyrialis
ej133 on Esper Glory
3 weeks ago
Yeah, I thought that.
Ojutai's Command seems bonkers here, specially because of the sick interaction with the Initiate itself. I'd suggest running at least one Geist of Saint Traft in the mainboard. It does a very consistent amount of damage, even in midrange strategies. And not being hit by Fatal Push and Path to Exile makes the card super awesome.
If you don't like the idea, maybe put him in the Baneslayer Angel slot in the sideboard. She looks a bit slow for me.
Anyhow, I love this deck. Keep it up! Great job.
3 weeks ago
I see! The only thing that throws me off is the 3 toughness. I feel like you would get more value out of running Baneslayer Angel or maybe Archangel of Thune. Archangel of Thune would also synergize great if you have an army or setting up for one. I played this deck last night in a 3 player match and it did great btw! I really enjoyed the political role. One of my friends is stubborn and kept focusing me which killed himself with all of the deflection damage. Then I pulled out a win with 5 health left against my other friend who was using a Meren deck. I had Queen Marchesa an unblockable double striker with the Sunforger. This deck was so enjoyable that I wouldn't have cared to come in second. :)
4 weeks ago
Hi RUST-O, a very different version of Marchesa than mine but I like it :)
I agree with preciousapprentice about adding mana rocks.
I also think bringing your mana curve down will help. You'll find the deck runs more smoothly once you bring average CMC below 4. Iona would be one that I cut due to being 9 mana and drawing a lot of hate.
Oh... In non-green decks I love Wayfarer's Bauble. Super cheap way to fix your mana and rampHope this helps
1 month ago
I love mardu decks, so +1 from me. But I definitely have some suggestions.
This deck seems to currently have a very confused model, on the one hand, you have Young Pyromancer and Monastery Mentor, two cards which can be very powerful given the correct deck, and deck strategies. You also hae cards like Kalitas, and Archangel, which do well in the more top-down model version of this type of deck. However, a blend of these types of decks doesn't really work, as one of them wants to be a ground pounding midrange deck which could run the Platinum Emperion combo with Madcap Experiment as has been done with cards like Nahiri, the Harbinger, and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. You really should decide on one model or the other, and if you'd like further help with that feel free to ask.
You do not run enough discard spells. Inquisition of Kozilek AND Thoughtseize are needed for decks that do not run blue in order to have a chance to beat combo decks, since you have no real combos yourself at the moment.
More fetchlands. Whoever said in the comments you can only look for basic lands does not understand how fetchlands work, as you can search for any land matching the land type designated, regardless if it's a basic or not. For decks that want to play 3 or more colors consistently, you need to increase the number of fetch and shocklands available in your deck, checklands are very popular and go with these shocks to make the manabase less painful. (Dragonskull Summit is a good example of a checkland.)
Card Choices. Why is archangel even in this deck? Youdont have nearly enough effect for the card to be useful and do not play an infinite combo with it such as SpikeFeeder I'd suggest Baneslayer Angel or simply moving Gideon to the mainboard.
If you want anymore suggestions, be sure to tag me in a comment!