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Creature — Human Cleric
T: Put a 1/1 white Human creature token onto the battlefield.
Fateful Hour As long as you have 5 or less life, other creatures you control get +2/+2.
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Thraben Doomsayer Discussion
1 week ago
If you're doing anything with tokens, you need Anointed Procession. You also need more generators, like Captain's Call, Gather the Townsfolk, Increasing Devotion, Nomads' Assembly, Secure the Wastes, or Thraben Doomsayer.
IF you redesign your deck to produce lots of tokens, you'll need Cathars' Crusade, super handy and can build up really quickly.
1 week ago
Thank you both for the tips!
I've reworked the deck a bit, throwing in a lot of the cards mentioned but also making some new choices of me own.
Do you think Timely Reinforcements is a good choice over the Lingering Souls, Raise the Alarm, and Beckon Apparition? I thought it had good synergy with the life cost cards that are in now and also would possibly let me boost my creatures back up quick should I need to use Wrath of God, which I think was a great suggestion.
I can see what you mean with Thraben Doomsayer. I like the suggestion of Doomed Traveler because I get to keep a creature on the board when he dies and he's very cheap, meaning he'll be easy to play if I need an extra body to flip Hanweir Militia Captain Flip. I like Brimaz, King of Oreskos's abilities, but I don't like how he thematically fits into the deck.
Since I'm not quite as hyper focused on Human tokens with the new suggestions, I chose Honor of the Pure between the two mentioned. This should boost almost all of my creatures. Additionally, I replaced Elgaud Shieldmate with Veteran Armorer as he's cheaper and continues the boosting theme for all of my other creatures.
I went with Dissolve for my second counter, do you think it's a better choice? I like the idea of largely removing a card rather than just delaying it a turn. I think I have decent enough card draw with Cryptic Command and my 4 Curiosity to lose that aspect, and I like the small, extra Scry effect.
I noticed in playtest that I was somethimes having trouble getting the color I needed mana-wise, so I also threw in a bunch of Hallowed Fountains and extra Mystic Gates. Do you think these are smart choices?
Thank you again!
1 week ago
I don't find Increasing Devotion a good card, it costs too much (5 mana as sorcery are a lot since you need to control the board and flip ormendhal as quickly as possible. I'll suggest you Lingering Souls (not sure about this, you don't have black mana), Raise the Alarm or even Beckon Apparition.
Don't like so much Supreme Will, it isn't a such good counter and it costs 3 to make you scry and draw a card. Why don't you add Remand if you need a counter or Telling Time, Taigam's Scheming, Index or Opt if you need to scry?
1 week ago
@Xica - I completely agree about keeping an eye on these cards. For example, Vizier of Tumbling Sands just made Kiora's Follower significantly more playable, as did Steward of Solidarity with Thraben Doomsayer/Intruder Alarm. IMHO, this is the best part of new sets coming out.
1 week ago
Thanks dzapf2008! At the start I was going G/W because in my head I was like "green is good with tokens and mana ramp" but after some revision it slowly became a splash of green in a B/W deck. It's mostly there for Sigarda, Heron's Grace and her synergy (though I also really like Pendelhaven Elder making my 1/1's decent blockers when they need to be). At the same time, I saw your deck (it's so similar!) and definitely see how Ravenous Demon Flip, Xathrid Necromancer, and human buffs would be decent additions themselves. I'm almost tempted to pull out Pendelhaven Elder and replace it and Ghostly Prison for some of those cards and keep green strictly for Sigarda. I don't need her but she generates humans and if I want to keep the same ratio of cards that generates humans, I prefer her over something like Thraben Doomsayer.
2 weeks ago
dzapf2008 Westvale Abbey Flip has won me 1 game. lol. In all honesty a lot of the time you're better off with 5 2/2s than 1 9/7, especially if your opponent is in white. Path to Exile is the most played card in modern and a lot of players will hold onto it if they're against tokens, especially if they see Westvale Abbey Flip and then you essentially wiped your own board.
This deck tends to win with a steady beat down where Intangible Virtue+Bitterblossom/Legion's Landing/Vault of the Archangel/The Planeswalkers let me out value my opponent over time. This plus the hand disruption means that the deck plays a lot more like midrange beatdown than the swarm aggro most token decks go for. (Although it can pop off and just swarm with some lucky draws). Long story short the deck doesn't really have any 'win cons' its more of a collective effort, ergo Westvale Abbey Flip rarely wins it.
I looked at your deck at like it a lot!
I'd recommend cutting Thraben Doomsayer, Death Cultist, Anointed Procession, and going down to 2 copies of Increasing Devotion so you can run 4x Doomed Traveler, and some combination of draw and Sorin, Solemn Visitor. Also I'd recommend playing Path to Exile over Bone Splinters.
Athreos, God of Passage is amazing in your list, and Ravenous Demon Flip is, as always, dope as fuck and extra spicy. I think these changes (especially Doomed Traveler) will help you get more out of both cards. Also you may wanna look at your mana base, if nothing else try Vault of the Archangel. That card puts in work.
3 weeks ago
Personally, I would remove your Arbor Elf and Elvish Archdruid to add in Avacyn's Pilgrim and Llanowar Elves. I would also consider throwing in a Cryptolith Rite. This paired with tokens gives you some insane ramp. I would also replace Thraben Doomsayer with Raise the Alarm. Don't get me wrong, I love Thraben Doomsayer, but I do feel like it's a little slow with one token a turn. I would also check out the Midnight Guard + Presence of Gond combo.