Wheel of Fate

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Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Commander 2016 (C16) Rare
Time Spiral (TSP) Rare

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Wheel of Fate

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Suspend 4— *(Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay and remove it from the game with four time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its mana cost.) *

Each player discards his or her hand, then draws seven cards.

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Wheel of Fate Discussion

Bezter on Are you feeling it now Mr. Crabs

2 weeks ago

I agree with Hyperalgialysis. Drop some lands!

Forced Fruition is brutal for your opponents.

Iron Maiden is alright, just happened to come across it today so I thought I'd share. Skullcage is interesting as well, and Dark Suspicions has a similar affect. Sadly these happen at the upkeep which is before the draw step, but they could still do some damage. Mindcrank is a little different but could still fit in well. Gratuitous Violence is perfect for abusing Nekusar's ability.

You probably want Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots to protect Nekusar if he is to be a main part of your game plan.

Temple Bell.

Obviously Wheel of Fortune and Wheel of Fate could be great here, but they're not the most budget-friendly. :)

Nekusar is a very interesting commander, and there are many options as far as his decks go. Best of luck!

RedMulligan on Starting in Commander?

3 weeks ago

So here's a list of the cards that I got for the deck:

However, there's plenty of things I know I need, and some things I might consider (thanks to edhrec.com).Holy crap, that's a lot of cards. What I want to do right now is have Kess play the support role while I tutor up Nekusar to play. As soon as I can start nabbing the wheels for Nekusar's pain, Kess's ability will allow me to cast them back for more wheel-y fun times (for me, at least). That way, people won't realize that this is actually a Nekusar deck: he's hiding, ready to strike! But my biggest problem is discerning which of these 150+ cards I need to whittle down to about 65, and also figure out how many lands I need to play. I've got a little money to spend, and this list is about as far as I'll go cost-wise.

Approximos on Big 'ol Flappy Lizards

1 month ago

Always love dragons.

For some win-cons I would try Kindred Summons and Genesis Wave.

For stuff like this where everything is huge (both mana and toughness) I like Heartless Summoning as well as Mirari's Wake and Zendikar Resurgent. That last one will also help with some draw.

I also like running some good ol' necromancy tricks with some hand cycle. I'd consider running Scion of the Ur-Dragon instead, so you can tutor out and load up your graveyard, then drop some stuff like Patriarch's Bidding, Twilight's Call, Rise of the Dark Realms, and a favorite Living Death.

If you like the last idea, run some Ancient Excavation, Jace's Archivist, Collective Defiance, Windfall, Dragon Mage, Incendiary Command, Tolarian Winds, Magus of the Wheel, and Wheel of Fate to fuel that graveyard. And if you are feeling cheeky Traumatize yourself and confuse everybody.

Also, try out some cluestones, keyrunes, obelisks and such to help with that mana ramp. I'd recommend around 8 or so to balance out the pace, unless you wanna fork out for Azusa, Lost but Seeking or Oracle of Mul Daya

Byuante on Guess What's Back! Back Again!

1 month ago

You linked to a Selesnya Casual deck, not this deck...



is not the same as

Guess What's Back! Back Again!

Commander / EDH ZendikariWol

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The odds of that happening are hilarious :p

Anyway, I notice you don't run any wheels. Wheel of Fortune,Wheel of Fate,Molten Psyche,Reforge the Soul, or since you're running Feldon, Magus of the Wheel.

You also don't run Goblin Welder, good for getting rid of stuff you don't need and returning something you do. Along those lines, maybe Ashnod's Altar or Phyrexian Altar

Maybe run Duplicant or Steel Hellkite as more removal of those annoying stuff that dealing damage sometimes can't get rid of? (Like indestructible, or non-creatures)

chadsansing on Arjun's Flaming Wheel

1 month ago

How do you feel about how much control you have over wheeling? I would worry about discarding or wheeling over Laboratory Maniac (although most of your wheels put cards back in your library, which is oddly in tension with the maniac). Maybe Winds of Change would be better than Windfall or Wheel of Fate to keep the maniac around?

I use a similar strategy in Revenge of the Nibblers, but with The Locust God as my commander, not that it's any more or less removable than the maniac or Arjun, the Shifting Flame.

I try to land a Kindred Discovery when I have combo pieces out like Altar of the Brood, Impact Tremors, Laboratory Maniac, or Purphoros, God of the Forge. That lets me respond to my draw triggers one at a time, rather than to a wheel effect that must be completed. Then I can draw all of my deck except for 1 or 2 cards and pause to respond to a draw trigger with an instant that goes back into my library, like Blue Sun's Zenith. Along the way, I use some combination of Ashnod's Altar, Gemstone Array, Mana Echoes, and Phyrexian Altar to store a ton of U mana to keep drawing the zenith and re-casting it back into my library.

I can't literally do that forever, but I can do that long enough to take care of libraries with a few more cards than mine or opponents with high, but not infinite, life totals.

I wonder if more win cons might be helpful here.

Happy brewing!

Suns_Champion on Binder update: Goblin Guide and ...

1 month ago

Hello all! I've updated my binder!

Notable cards include:

Just trying to get rid of stuff I don't need :) I'd be happy to look at any binders! Thanks!

ThallionDarkshine on Nekudady

1 month ago

Master of the Feast and Viseling are kind of low impact cards in my opinion. Viseling just deals damage too slowly, and Master of the Feast is basically just an undercosted beater. Giving your opponents cards, even if it will ping them for some damage, isn't enough to justify running a card that does nothing else. In addition, I don't really agree with running Wheel of Fate without ways to cheat it out. If you have to wait around for 4 turns before it does anything, your opponents can plan heavily around it, killing all your damaging stuff going into the turn it will resolve.

I would consider playing some of the more powerful damaging enchantments and spells. Megrim, while often worse than Liliana's Caress, definitely should find a spot in the mainboard for its ability to deal 2 damage at a time and kill off planeswalkers. Phyrexian Tyranny hits people for 2 for each draw, or just greatly taxes their mana. Spiteful Visions is symmetrical card draw, and pings everyone for 1 on each draw.

I would also add some more cheap mana rocks. Nekusar is a very fast and consistent deck because it can run lots of ramp, dump your hand and then refill with a wheel. Obelisk of Grixis is a pretty mediocre mana rock. There are lots of better ones on 3, and even some more great rocks at 2. Fellwar Stone, Talisman of Dominance, and Talisman of Indulgence are great 2-cmc rocks. Nightscape Familiar can stall against big beaters and costs down a good chunk of your spells.

Next, there are some great wheel effects that you're not currently running. Magus of the Wheel is a tad bit slow, but still a strong card. Memory Jar and its creature counterpart Magus of the Jar are also insanely powerful. They're definitely some of the best wheels in my opinion, letting you refill your hand for a turn and making your opponents discard a ton.

Coward_Token on Gahiji: Forever War

2 months ago

Very well, here's my latest jank for your consideration (take your time)

Orzhov Advokist: Boosts one of your creatures and tells you ahead of time whether or not someone is planning on attacking you. This potentially lets it both replace one card from Conflict Escalation and another from Deterrence, which would free up a slot for something else. On the downside, it takes a player turn cycle to become relevant and it's more about quality than quantity (although you could use things like Tetravus, Murder Investigation and/or Hangarback Walker to alleviate this, see also about Elemental Mastery below). Another problem is that it doesn't reward people for attacking each other and it's arguably anti-synergetic with Mystic Barrier.

(Invasion Plans/Angel's Trumpet/Total War): Weird group slug cards, dunno if they're too weak compared to e.g. Warmonger Hellkite and/or too prone to backfire.

Ramp:

Harvest Season/(Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip): More powerful yet less reliable alternative to Cultivate. (Although instead of Itlimoc you could just spend hundreds of bucks on a Gaea's Cradle I guess)

(Burgeoning): Cheap and obviously triggers frequently in multiplayer, but conflicts with Oreskos Explorer.

(Thornscape Familiar): The only one in the cost reduction Familiar cycle which affects more than one of the colors in your commander's identity. Aside from Gahiji himself, it works for 33 out of the 99 cards in the current deck (assuming no shenanigans like Celestial Dawn or Feroz's Ban). I dunno if you cast those 33 cards frequently enough per turn to make the cost reduction worthwhile compared to land-based ramp, especially since you got some land matters cards like Mirari's Wake.

Continuing my quest of exhausting every possible card advantage option known to beast, god and man:

Elvish Harbinger: Complement or possibly even a replacement for Wood Elves. Ramps and elf Imperial Seal:s from a pretty diverse pool consisting of Rhys the Redeemed, Reclamation Sage, Wood Elves, Knight of the Reliquary, Mirror Entity, Selvala, Explorer Returned & Oracle of Mul Daya. Since it doesn't have flash, unplanned shuffling is my biggest reservation towards this one. (As an optional bonus, it can form the middle of a threefold creature tutor chain with either of the Recruiters and any elf.)

Green Sun's Zenith: Banned in modern and probably something you've already considered. Puts green critters directly onto the battlefield and is self-recurable. It can pick from a pretty diverse pool that includes (among other things) Den Protector, Oracle of Mul Day, Reclamation Sage, Tireless Tracker, Wood Elves, Knight of the Reliquary, Mirri, and Selvala.

Worldly Tutor: Creature Vampiric Tutor, might be a bit slow without an available draw source. (Congregation at Dawn) takes things further, but with the presence of other (shuffling) tutors and a lack of great draw power it seems questionable. Eladamri's Call is the Demonic Tutor equivalent, dunno if it can compete with Green Sun's.

Captain Sisay: Repeatable fetching of Kor Haven, Gisela, Iroas, Rhys, Fumiko, Kazuul, Michiko, Mirri and Selvala. Nothing from the Recon group but I think Kor Haven and Selvala alleviates things.

(Evolutionary Leap): Unsure about this one, but could be nice with things that give a benefit upon death (be it naturally or trough Skullclamp with 2 or more toughness) and/or are disposable (especially cheap ETB creatures that can be recurred with Sun Titan).

(Defense of the Heart): Obviously very powerful if it goes off, but I assume that it's too conditional & vulnerable to removal to be worth it.

Magus of the Wheel: Complement to the classic wheel that's already present. I prefer the Magus over Wheel of Fate & Reforge the Soul due to not requiring you to have all the mana at once and/or because it's more predictable for something that discards your hand (although slower without haste). As a bonus, it's recurable with Sun Titan (and tutorable with either of the Recruiters).

Other misc. cards which you've probably already considered and rejected, but just in case:

(Luminarch Ascension): On one hand, Ant Queen on steroids. On the other, draws a lot of hate and/or takes at least four turns to become not-useless (assuming no helpful proliferation) which makes it more and more of a dead draw over time. (Sacred Mesa is a weird compromise.) There's also Emeria Angel/Retreat to Emeria for if you want to expand on the land subtheme, but it doesn't have the same explosive potential as the aforementioned manasinks (although Hazezon Tamar might be a decent compromise).

Elemental Mastery: Channels a quality creature (e.g. a beefed up Knight of the Reliquary or just Gahiji himself) into a quantity of tokens which better synergizes with Gahiji's ability. On the downside, since the tokens only lasts one turn you can't increase their power on the long term with e.g. Curse of Predation. The card also has the two usual problems associated with Auras in that it requires the presence of an appropriate creature to be useful and that single-target removal against said creature becomes a two-for-one deal (and this is further exasperated by the fact that you're encouraged to increase the power of the creature by e.g. putting counters on it). Also too expensive for Sun Titan. Dragon Throne of Tarkir gives somewhat similar quality-to-quantity conversion in a more resilient equipment form.

(Path of Ancestry) vs one of Temple of Abandon/Temple of Plenty/Temple of Triumph. Less reliable scry that only works with Gahiji & the changeling, but taps for all the relevant colors. Dunno how frequently this is relevant for you.

(Rith, the Awakener): Token generator alternative. I'm guessing you've rejected it because the tokens lack evasion and/or the token generation is too conditional. (But hey, at least it's a combat damage effect for Duelist's Heritage to interact with)

(Marton Stromgald): Potentially explosive token amplification but hard to keep alive.

Mass Hysteria: In case you're not getting enough haste from Slayers' Stronghold. Also works with the group slug aspect, but I dunno if it will backfire by e.g. letting powerful tap abilities come out of nowhere. (There's also Concordant Crossroads if you're not worried about it being replaced by another World Enchantment.) Samut, Voice of Dissent is another option that has quite a few other features as well, but I fear she'll come in a bit too late. Got similar feelings about (Urabrask the Hidden), who's also kinda detrimental to the group slug theme and/or will draw too much hate. ((Akroma's Memorial) is even worse in the lateness department.)

Mogg Infestation/(Settle the Wreckage)/Fell the Mighty/(Righteous Fury)/(Sunblast Angel)/(Angel of the Dire Hour): One of the Token Beatdown variants favors board wipes, but all of the listed cards have a tendency to kill your fatties and leave your opponent's weenies alive. In case you want a source of emergency non-targeted creature removal in the main deck and/or the variant, here's some additional options that can leave your own creatures alive, even if they're a bit more expensive than e.g. Wrath of God (or, in the case of Settle the Wreckage, potentially profitable for an opponent). Special mention to Mogg Infestation for still keeping the group slug going by being Beast Within on steroids & Angel of the Dire Hour for bypassing indestructible in addition to shroud, if that's relevant in your meta (although a plain (Arcane Lighthouse) might be better then).

(Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite): Saving the most prominently obvious card for last, I assume the reason you've rejected it is because it's not explosive enough to act as a 1v1 finisher, while being detrimental to the overall group slug strategy when there's more than one opponent alive.

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