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When Diluvian Primordial enters the battlefield, for each opponent, you may cast up to one target instant or sorcery card from that player's graveyard without paying its mana cost. If a card cast this way would be put into a graveyard this turn, exile it instead.
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Diluvian Primordial Discussion
3 weeks ago
Baleful Strix, Diluvian Primordial, Frost Titan, Phantasmal Image, Snapcaster Mage, Sphinx of Uthuun, Whirler Rogue, Disciple of Bolas, Grave Titan and Plaguecrafter. Just a bunch of black and blue ETB stars that I can think of off the top of my head.
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
You want a deck that will remove the opponents deck while it controls what they’re doing and steadily building a zombie swarm?
A couple important red zombies will be Neheb, the Eternal and Wildfire Eternal. You could play Sedris, the Traitor King to bring stuff back on the cheap, and even Liliana's Reaver, Siren of the Silent Song, Order of Yawgmoth, and Slavering Nulls. All these guys getting through will be made easier if you have Zombie Master and Graf Harvest too. Undead Alchemist can make more zombies while they eat all the brains too...
Then you can play planeswalkers like Liliana, Death's Majesty to reanimate stuff repeatedly and the one Bolas does it too. Wrexial, the Risen Deep, Sepulchral Primordial and Diluvian Primordial are all good, and even Molten Primordial can be if you have a way to sacrifice the stuff you steal like Grimgrin, Corpse-Born, Ghoulcaller Gisa, Carrion Feeder or Corpse Harvester.
1 month ago
Evacuation to pop off at instant speed right before your creatures come out of suspension might be loony.
Sneak Attack would be good if you do intend to steer away from Eldrazi.
I think more counterspells to assure your threats don't get interrupted is a must especially since this deck requires so much set up to get going. On that note, I'd then bring in Snapcaster Mage and possibly even Torrential Gearhulk since your sorceries have such high value. You might also consider Archaeomancer depending on how highly you value your instants/sorceries.
Chancellor of the Spires is a fun blue fatty, so is Diluvian Primordial, Sphinx Ambassador and as vanilla as Inkwell Leviathan might look, it is super hard to deal with. You could also consider the new card Arcane Artisan to cheat out fatties if Jhoira is uncastable. Also, Timebender could be nice here too.
In summary, I think the deck is very strong but could use some more support in the counterspell department, with a little spell recursion (Snapcaster, Torrential, etc). I would also consider throwing in a bit more mana rock ramp to assure you have enough mana if Jhoira is uncastable. Consider Mind Stone, Thought Vessel andCoalition Relic as the three more important ones, and possibly even Hedron Archive or Commander's Sphere.
I would also say think hard on Obliterate, Jokulhaups, and Decree of Annihilation. I personally think they are great win conditions, but can lead to a lot of the same lines of play which can make games repetitive. I definitely wouldn't say cut them all together because they're a valid strategy to pretty much every Jhoira deck, but play around with the numbers, maybe try out 2 or maybe just one so you're not relying too heavily on them. Just find what feels right.
1 month ago
You can go aggro control. Most of the creatures do hurt (5 power) with effective etb effect/s. Flickering them reuses their etb and give pseudo vigilance.
I will raise a disclaimer that esper tends to run "good stuff" because, well, there are good spells that have little to no alternates.
From the creature list: consider keeping
--removal Angel of Despair
--draw Sphinx of Uthuun
Sepulchral Primordial -> another good one, getting creatures in opponents' gy
Vela the Night-Clad -> could be a win con, when you flicker enough
Sun Titan -> not sure if you have many 3cmc permanents, but usually great to have
maybeboard Boreas Charger
hope this helps.
2 months ago
How has Ishkanah been performing for you? Are the tokens significant enough?
You probably want to find a slot for the new Underrealm Lich with its powerful graveyard filling and card selection. Also it has great synergy with Gitrog.
Do you think Breakthrough might be useful as a way to draw multiple cards and fill the graveyard?
Meren of Clan Nel Toth could be good for recursion.
Cryptic Command could be useful for its versatility. I think Shadow of Doubt is less versatile compared to simply countering the tutor or tutored spell.
2 months ago
@Darkshadow327 I super appreciate all the suggestions. While many of them are more expensive than I'm wanting to put into this deck, I don't think you went overboard at all since the suggestions show you put some thought into what kind of cards the deck wants.
Vampiric Tutor would obviously be amazing, unfortunately it's just too expensive. I'll have to keep relying on Liliana Vess in that department. I do own a Demonic Tutor that's in another deck, I should definitely share it between them. I did just manage to get a borrowed copy of Xenograft from a friend so I'm going to throw that in at least.
Regarding counterspells...I know I know. I'm so bad at playing control decks. I have a UW Mill/Control? deck (Azor, the Millbringer) that has...2 counterspells total I think. Desertion is spectacular and I'm definitely going to add it. Disallow I don't have extra copies of and they're in decks I can't borrow from.
Regarding graveyard shenanigans: Most of your suggestions are more than I want to put into this but I understand the sentiment. Thrilling Encore has interesting potential and Diluvian Primordial seems like a better/worse Wrexial, the Risen Deep.
What would you recommend removing from the deck for new additions? Are there any cards that are trying to be too cute (other than the ridiculous forced tribal thing, of course)?
2 months ago
If you want to get cards you want to pull off the Arcane Adaptation + Rooftop Storm combo then I suggest tutors. Some noteworthy ones are Enlightened Tutor, Vampiric Tutor (I know it's expensive, but if you are able to get one it would be good), Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, and Rune-Scarred Demon are ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Only one Counterspell?! You should be ashamed. Some of my favorites I have found are Insidious Will, Disallow, Desertion (kinda fits the "steal" theme), Render Silent, and Mana Drain (if you are willing to pay for it).
I know a lot of these are expensive, but I went with themes I was seeing are cards I think should be in here. Also, most of these are odd cmc so they can be cast off of Yennett, which is a plus.