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When Diluvian Primordial enters the battlefield, for each opponent, you may cast up to one target instant or sorcery card from that player's graveyard without paying its mana cost. If a card cast this way would be put into a graveyard this turn, exile it instead.
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Diluvian Primordial Discussion
3 weeks ago
Maybe you could do an +1/+1 counters version of aristocrats with Undying and cards like Epochrasite ... basically sacrifice them into a powerful engine before the end of everyone's turn.
Mind's Dilation ... yes
Fallen Shinobi ... yes
Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge ... commander?
Mindclaw Shaman ... maybe
Mindleech Mass ... maybe
Wrexial, the Risen Deep ... yes
Extract from Darkness ... reanimator
Sepulchral Primordial ... reanimator
Silent-Blade Oni ... ninjitsu
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser ... goad is amazing
Hostage Taker ... yes
Thief of Sanity ... yes
...as well as any version of the many clones in the game...
1 month ago
Zurs weirding is nice after a mindslicer but may backfire too easy.
The thing with Gonti is: I wasn’t happy with the Performance of Diluvian Primordial lately so im testing around. Gonti will probably not stay but is currently in for testing.
1 month ago
"One-card wincons" to consider: Insurrection , Expropriate , Painful Quandary , Rise of the Dark Realms , Revel in Riches , Cut / Ribbons . Perhaps Clone Legion , Rite of Replication , Mogis, God of Slaughter , Hour of Promise , Blatant Thievery , Grave Betrayal , or Mind's Dilation .
One thing to think about is getting Nicol Bolas flipped and maybe joined by the other planeswalkers and casting Obliterate , Jokulhaups , Devastation , or Decree of Annihilation . Almost guaranteed ultimates. Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God would be the best--proxy for now and include in first build?
Boardwipes: Toxic Deluge , Black Sun's Zenith , Hour of Devastation , Decree of Pain , Curse of the Swine , In Garruk's Wake , Deadly Tempest , Evacuation , Nevinyrral's Disk , Last One Standing , Perilous Vault , Oblivion Stone , Kindred Dominance , Necromantic Selection , Subterranean Tremors
Removal: Capsize , Bedevil , Hero's Downfall , Chaos Warp , Kolaghan's Command , Reality Shift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Vraska's Contempt , Rakdos Charm , Price of Fame , In Bolas's Clutches , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Unstable Obelisk , Vandalblast , By Force , Shatterstorm , Hostage Taker , Yawgmoth's Vile Offering , Settle the Score , Dark Impostor , Hour of Glory , Sever the Bloodline , Silence the Believers , Spread the Sickness , Slave of Bolas , Electrodominance
Draw: (I would add Erebos once you're home) Patient Rebuilding , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Notion Thief , Windfall , Mystical Tutor , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , Braingeyser , Mind Spring , Expansion / Explosion , Invoke the Firemind , Deliver Unto Evil , Augur of Bolas , Painful Truths , Fevered Visions , Search for Azcanta Flip, Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Tidings , Thassa, God of the Sea , Day's Undoing , Reforge the Soul , Standstill , Deep Analysis , Necrologia , Steady Progress , Tezzeret's Gambit , Oath of Jace
Random utility: Ophiomancer , Metallurgic Summonings , As Fortold, Pendrell Mists , No Mercy , Stranglehold , Fated Return , Dark Intimations , Spellseeker , Sire Of Insanity , Thief of Sanity , Spark Double , Primal Amulet Flip, Dragon's Hoard , Mystic Retrieval , Shreds of Sanity , Spelltwine , Ashiok, Dream Render , Torpor Orb , Baleful Strix , Darksteel Myr , Solemn Simulacrum , Wayfarer's Bauble , Vedalken Orrery , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Will Kenrith , Mana Geyser , Gem of Becoming , Thran Dynamo , Narset, Parter of Veils , Keranos, God of Storms , Thrilling Encore , Star Compass , Coldsteel Heart , Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Ensnaring Bridge , Crawlspace , Expedition Map , Burnished Hart , Torment of Scarabs , Cruel Reality , Mnemonic Betrayal , Yawgmoth's Will , Bloodchief Ascension , Nightscape Familiar , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Dreadhorde Invasion , Fraying Omnipotence , Thrummingbird , Viral Drake , Past in Flames , Mizzix's Mastery , Omniscience , Tainted AEther , Aid the Fallen , Deepglow Skate , Flux Channeler , Rings of Brighthearth , Silent Arbiter , Meekstone , Mudslide , Astral Cornucopia , Everflowing Chalice , Lethal Vapors , Sunbird's Invocation , Stolen Strategy , Maze of Ith , Spreading Plague , Merchant Scroll , Polluted Bonds , Black Market , Grave Upheaval , Memory Plunder , Pain Magnification
Beaters: Dragonlord Silumgar , The Scorpion God , The Locust God , The Scarab God , God-Eternal Kefnet , God-Eternal Bontu , Darksteel Colossus , Colossus of Akros , Visara the Dreadful , Tsabo Tavoc , Avatar of Woe , Balefire Dragon , Nicol Bolas , Hellkite Tyrant , Bladewing the Risen , Grave Titan , Inferno Titan , Steel Hellkite , Vampire Nighthawk , Torrential Gearhulk , Noxious Gearhulk , Combustible Gearhulk , Dominus of Fealty , Roil Elemental , Tidespout Tyrant , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Etali, Primal Storm , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Tetzimoc, Primal Death , Dread , The Haunt of Hightower , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Enigma Drake , Crackling Drake , Archfiend of Depravity , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Thing in the Ice Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Sepulchral Primordial , Molten Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Sire of Stagnation , Utvara Hellkite
1 month ago
Heh, it's been awhile. Thank you for the suggestions on my deck, sorry I promised I'd get to this and didn't get back to it sooner. Awesome build, loving the theft theme of the deck.
- Torment of Hailfire ; it feels alright to run, but I'd consider playing Exsanguinate . It does one job and does it well, and gives you a bit of insurance.
- Liliana, Dreadhorde General and Chandra, Awakened Inferno are incredibly powerful planeswalkers, and if that's what you need them for, heck, that's a good enough reason. However, they ain't really on theme; maybe Geth, Lord of the Vault instead? Same high-end cost, similar powerful presence, and really supports what you want to do. Etali, Primal Storm , Sepulchral Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , and Wrexial, the Risen Deep are all awesome big drops as well.
- Mystic Remora or Rhystic Study is a great question, however, even through Remora's sucky cumulative upkeep and not hitting creatures, it does still only drop for 1 mana.
- And my personal favorite, Herald of Leshrac . Kinda Jank, but ahh, it's so good.
1 month ago
3 months ago
Remove: Dack's Duplicate , Diluvian Primordial , Inkwell Leviathan , Ornithopter , Phyrexian Ingester , Psychosis Crawler , Knowledge Exploitation , Dissipate , Reins of Power , Stoic Rebuttal , Izzet Cluestone , Manalith , Spectral Searchlight , Venser's Journal , Vessel of Endless Rest , one land
Add: Whir of Invention , Negate , Retract , Scrap Mastery , Reshape , Hedron Archive , Darksteel Forge , Paradoxical Outcome , Hurkyl's Recall , Thought Vessel , Kuldotha Forgemaster , Saheeli's Directive , Aether Spellbomb , Rebuild , Soul of New Phyrexia , Mycosynth Wellspring , Ichor Wellspring , Foundry Inspector
3 months ago
The best things in life are free.
3 months ago
Thanks for the review WizardOfTheNorthernCoast! Looks good! I got some tips from the discussion on your deckpage. Unexpected Results is definitely on-theme but it could stop the Surge wincon. Seems like you put in more passive draw compared to my ETB/on-cast draw. I guess I could try that for another time. Would you ever get more than 7 cards and have to discard though?
I put the Conjurer's Closet and Minion Reflector because I have alot of ETB effects, so these help me to 'recycle' them. I think its fine to cast them on the mainphase or flash them in with Orrery/ Leyline/ Alchemist Refuge. The Reflector requires me to pay each time so i'll be cutting it out.
I'll be cutting Beast Whisperer first since GP works with the conjurer's closet. The Whisperer can be copied to give me insane draw though, so I need to test it out. And I almost forgot, the commander herself is a draw engine.
Primal Surge says 'may' so that incident with the Leviathan stopping the wincon wouldnt happen!
I actually opt to remove Mwonvuli Beast Tracker because it has only 5 targets now/
the Diluvian Primordial could work many things. Maybe I cast a wheel, or flash the Primordial in response to use an opponent's Counterspell. hahah
Diluvian Primordial occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%