Diluvian Primordial

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Gatecrash (GTC) Rare

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Diluvian Primordial

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When Diluvian Primordial enters the battlefield, for each opponent, you may cast up to one target instant or sorcery card from that player's graveyard without paying its mana cost. If a card cast this way would be put into a graveyard this turn, exile it instead.

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Diluvian Primordial Discussion

TheBoraxKid on Jhoira of the Ghitu

10 hours ago

Evacuation to pop off at instant speed right before your creatures come out of suspension might be loony.

Sneak Attack would be good if you do intend to steer away from Eldrazi.

I think more counterspells to assure your threats don't get interrupted is a must especially since this deck requires so much set up to get going. On that note, I'd then bring in Snapcaster Mage and possibly even Torrential Gearhulk since your sorceries have such high value. You might also consider Archaeomancer depending on how highly you value your instants/sorceries.

Counterspells I would recommend would be of course Force of Will, Counterspell, and I think you could even afford a Cryptic Command.

Chancellor of the Spires is a fun blue fatty, so is Diluvian Primordial, Sphinx Ambassador and as vanilla as Inkwell Leviathan might look, it is super hard to deal with. You could also consider the new card Arcane Artisan to cheat out fatties if Jhoira is uncastable. Also, Timebender could be nice here too.

In summary, I think the deck is very strong but could use some more support in the counterspell department, with a little spell recursion (Snapcaster, Torrential, etc). I would also consider throwing in a bit more mana rock ramp to assure you have enough mana if Jhoira is uncastable. Consider Mind Stone, Thought Vessel andCoalition Relic as the three more important ones, and possibly even Hedron Archive or Commander's Sphere.

I would also say think hard on Obliterate, Jokulhaups, and Decree of Annihilation. I personally think they are great win conditions, but can lead to a lot of the same lines of play which can make games repetitive. I definitely wouldn't say cut them all together because they're a valid strategy to pretty much every Jhoira deck, but play around with the numbers, maybe try out 2 or maybe just one so you're not relying too heavily on them. Just find what feels right.

Mirabilis on Subjective Reality (Flicker Focus)

1 day ago

hi Daggerfella,

I see.

You can go aggro control. Most of the creatures do hurt (5 power) with effective etb effect/s. Flickering them reuses their etb and give pseudo vigilance.

I will raise a disclaimer that esper tends to run "good stuff" because, well, there are good spells that have little to no alternates.

From the creature list: consider keeping

--removal Angel of Despair

Ashen Rider

Lavinia of the Tenth

Reflector Mage

--draw Sphinx of Uthuun

Mulldrifter

Cloudblazer

Archaeomancer

--value Arbiter of the Ideal Brago, King Eternal Diluvian Primordial -> great when many spells in opponents' gy

Sepulchral Primordial -> another good one, getting creatures in opponents' gy

Magister Sphinx -> my bias. similar to Sorin Markov

Vela the Night-Clad -> could be a win con, when you flicker enough

Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign

Resolute Archangel

Sun Titan -> not sure if you have many 3cmc permanents, but usually great to have

--combo Deadeye Navigator Peregrine Drake

maybeboard Boreas Charger

Chancellor of the Spires

Demonlord Belzenlok

Djinn of Wishes

Felidar Guardian

Jace's Mindseeker

Mistmeadow Witch

hope this helps.

elgosu1337 on Tasigur Midrange

1 week ago

How has Ishkanah been performing for you? Are the tokens significant enough?

You probably want to find a slot for the new Underrealm Lich with its powerful graveyard filling and card selection. Also it has great synergy with Gitrog.

Notion Thief and Consecrated Sphinx could provide additional card draw.

Do you think Breakthrough might be useful as a way to draw multiple cards and fill the graveyard?

Meren of Clan Nel Toth could be good for recursion.

Cryptic Command could be useful for its versatility. I think Shadow of Doubt is less versatile compared to simply countering the tutor or tutored spell.

Sepulchral Primordial and Diluvian Primordial should get good value in a multiplayer game even for their cost.

babushkasara on Sphinx-Zombie-Wizard Tribal - Yennett

1 month ago

@Darkshadow327 I super appreciate all the suggestions. While many of them are more expensive than I'm wanting to put into this deck, I don't think you went overboard at all since the suggestions show you put some thought into what kind of cards the deck wants.

Vampiric Tutor would obviously be amazing, unfortunately it's just too expensive. I'll have to keep relying on Liliana Vess in that department. I do own a Demonic Tutor that's in another deck, I should definitely share it between them. I did just manage to get a borrowed copy of Xenograft from a friend so I'm going to throw that in at least.

Regarding counterspells...I know I know. I'm so bad at playing control decks. I have a UW Mill/Control? deck (Azor, the Millbringer) that has...2 counterspells total I think. Desertion is spectacular and I'm definitely going to add it. Disallow I don't have extra copies of and they're in decks I can't borrow from.

Regarding graveyard shenanigans: Most of your suggestions are more than I want to put into this but I understand the sentiment. Thrilling Encore has interesting potential and Diluvian Primordial seems like a better/worse Wrexial, the Risen Deep.

What would you recommend removing from the deck for new additions? Are there any cards that are trying to be too cute (other than the ridiculous forced tribal thing, of course)?

Darkshadow327 on Sphinx-Zombie-Wizard Tribal - Yennett

1 month ago

If you want to get cards you want to pull off the Arcane Adaptation + Rooftop Storm combo then I suggest tutors. Some noteworthy ones are Enlightened Tutor, Vampiric Tutor (I know it's expensive, but if you are able to get one it would be good), Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, and Rune-Scarred Demon are ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Only one Counterspell?! You should be ashamed. Some of my favorites I have found are Insidious Will, Disallow, Desertion (kinda fits the "steal" theme), Render Silent, and Mana Drain (if you are willing to pay for it).

You could also take advantage of the graveyard with The Scarab God, Geth, Lord of the Vault, Debtors' Knell, Rise of the Dark Realms, Thrilling Encore, Sepulchral Primordial, and Diluvian Primordial.

I know a lot of these are expensive, but I went with themes I was seeing are cards I think should be in here. Also, most of these are odd cmc so they can be cast off of Yennett, which is a plus.

Darkshadow327 on God's Plan... To Mill

1 month ago

Tormod's Crypt, Bojuka Bog and Leyline of the Void help if your opponent is running a graveyard strategy.

The Scarab God Liliana Vess, Geth, Lord of the Vault, and Wrexial, the Risen Deep can take advantage of milling opponents (also Diluvian Primordial and Sepulchral Primordial).

Hedron Crab, and Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger are good mill creatures. Startled Awake  Flip is a decent mill card if you can keep bringing it back. Siren of the Silent Song is good too, a discard and straight mill can hurt.

Jace's Erasure and Psychic Corrosion punish whenever you draw a card (they pair nicely w/ Patient Rebuilding. Then Memory Erosion just punishes your opponents whenever they try to do something.

Perplex is a decent Counterspell, or a mill card. Mind Sculpt is just amazing! Increasing Confusion is decent as well. Psychic Spiral brings back all those mill cards, while milling your opponents in the process! Patient Rebuilding is recurrent mill, while also moving you forward.

Hope I was of some help! (And that I didn't go too overboard).

nibblecookie on Drowning in Darkness

2 months ago

Ahhhhhh too many good cards, Im running out of room in the deck for them all.

I think Liliana, Death's Majesty is still the better Liliana for me.

But I see what you was saying about how good Living Death can be, especially with cards like Diluvian Primordial.

I really want to include it but I have no idea what to remove for this one, maybe I should remove the Tome Scour?

kamelyan on Budget Merfolk ETB

2 months ago

Cyclonic Rift is the blue board-wipe.

You also have Oblivion Stone as an option.

Ever thought of Nezahal, Primal Tide picking up a Worldslayer between its teeth?

And if you run Diluvian Primordial you'll have access to any board-wipes that may have found their way to your opponents' graveyards.

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