Gruul Turf enters the battlefield tapped.
When Gruul Turf enters the battlefield, return a land you control to its owner's hand.
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Gruul Turf Discussion
1 week ago
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I would say that this is an easy replacement for Spire Garden. If only they had brought this out before Zendikar Rising so it could have potentially been an expedition. The mix of green/black is a lot more prevalent in this deck, with red being incidental. Only issue I see is that this would reduce the overall red splash in this deck down to about 5 sources, 2 of them tapped (Gruul Turf & Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle), 3 of them fetchable. That said, all red costs in this deck are just single pips so it shouldn't hurt too much so long as the fetchable land count doesn't drop further.
There is a constant battle between these kinds of effects: Arch of Orazca, Castle Locthwain and now War Room. Which is better? Honestly they all end up costing a lot. Arch has that high mana cost, Castle has the downside of being very painful when you're digging for the right thing with a full hand and War Room would cost you 3 every time you used it and taps for colourless. So the question is which one is best? Depends, every time I look over this I come to the same conclusion: generally it isn't really worth it. The deck has a limited resource in its life total that needs to be put towards Glacial Chasm among other things, so Castle and War Room just feel rather taxing, and Arch and War Room are colourless, so they hurt colour fixing. All in all I would consider maybe giving this a pass because having to tap 4 lands and pay 3 life to draw a card just isn't worth it.
Interesting, but this card just draws too much attention. It would take you many turns to burn down an opponent even doing 7 damage a turn, giving them plenty of time to find an answer. Using this on a creature of planeswalker isn't particularly exciting either due to the timing, you can't really using any tricks to maximise the effect.
With Glacial Chasm you can very much abuse this card's effect. It deals damage, Glacial Chasm prevents damage. The choice is made as the card resolves so if your opponents try any shenanigans you can change your choice to something safer. You have every opportunity to utilise this to its full effect. Mind games are also fun so you might try to lowball it at say 5-10 life to see if anyone is betting that you'll choose some ridiculously high number to guarantee you'll get to wheel.
Giving your opponents choice isn't the best. Skip.
No real interaction with landfall but this is a very powerful card for black. I would recommend this just based upon power level alone to annoy opponents, but do so at your own peril, because you will draw a lot of hate from it.
Now this is an interesting choice here. Bringing back cards from the graveyard is what this deck likes to do, sometimes more than once a turn, so you can get a lot of potential value from this card. However the issue becomes that it is on a creature body. It's interesting, not amazing.
Forgot this one when I was doing green. Interesting effect, but the issue remains that you usually won't be attacking to win, and at 8 mana, he is not cheap to cast at all. I would only recommend this in a Rude Awakening style deck.
3 weeks ago
At Nava's request i'm posting suggested changes, additions, cuts, and my thoughts on them. She requested that I not stick to only budget, but keep the max single card value under $30 (I kept it under $20 for the most part and largely even lower than that). As such, here are my thoughts and recommendations.
Courser of Kruphix- Ramp, pulls cards off the top of your deck so you are more likely to draw useful cards and just directly drop your lands onto the battlefield
Living Lightning- a useful elemental that allows you to recast your instants/sorceries
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar- A very powerful card that also allows you to bounce your lands so you can replay them for more effects
Nyxbloom Ancient- Triple mana on an elemental.
Overgrowth Elemental- A useful elemental that pumps your creatures and gains you life.
Ramunap Excavator- Replay your sacrificed and destroyed lands. Fantastic in a lands deck. Omnath feeds on lands, and the more you drop the more cards you can draw and counters you can give out.
Roil Elemental- A fantastic landfall ability that allows you to grab key pieces from your opponents and use them against each other
Seedborn Muse take full advantage of your lands and abilities without worrying about being tapped out
Titania, Protector of Argoth- land recursion, elemental generation.
World Shaper- land recursion
Birds of Paradise- One of the best dorks in the game
Sylvan Caryatid- Fantastic dork
Brighthearth Banneret- You are a lands deck. You have more than enough mana and this simply doesn't do enough for you.
Chandra's Embercat- This will be a recurring comment from me. You are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Embodiment of Insight- Too expensive for the effect. Also, personally I don't like turning lands into creatures as it makes them incredibly vulnerable without giving enough benefit.
Embodiment of Spring- Too expensive and not nearly good enough.
Generator Servant- The haste isn't important enough for your creatures as you very rarely have anything massive enough or has a useful enough tap effect that is being cast from your hand to require it. Furthermore, you are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Grove Rumbler- This card is terrible. Four for a 3/3 trample that has an effect that will pump it slightly for one turn. This is awful. It feels like this card was only put in due to it being an elemental.
Lavakin Brawler- Rarely do you ever have enough elementals out for this to be worthwhile. Not that it's terrible, but there are so many better cards that can be put in its place.
Parcelbeast- Doesn't get enough value to justify the slot
Smokebraider- You are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Tireless Tracker- This has nothing to do with your deck and you're better off finding other draw engines
Surrak Dragonclaw- No synergy with the deck and not nearly good enough to justify the high mana cost.
Field of the Dead
Bring your land count to 38 or so
Coral Atoll- This is terrible. I know you're going for the bounce effect, but this is far worse for several reasons. Firstly, it only gives you blue mana as opposed to multicolored. Secondly, it requires specifically an island to be returned as opposed to any land that you can then take advantage of. And thirdly, it requires the land to be untapped which means that not only does it come in tapped, but it requires an untapped island which means you can't even use that land and then return it for value. This is awful. I don't love the bounce lands either, but I understand what you're going for and their value. This has neither.
Lumbering Falls, Raging Ravine, Wandering Fumarole- These man lands are in here entirely because they can become elementals, but really aren't worth running. They are come in tapped, cannot be fetched, and cost 4 mana to turn into a creature, largely negating any benefit. They're really bad and I highly recommend cutting them for more basics.
Unclaimed Territory- Not really worth the value. It's colorless more often than not and another basic land will give you more value than that more often.
Mana Vault- Nava already owns a copy of this in her Nekusar deck, so it can be added here without issue.
Strionic Resonator- Copy all of your ETB triggers, as well as any other triggered abilities. Fantastic
Chaos Warp- Removal on your own pieces or an opponents. Bypasses indestructible and often is allowed through without being counterspelled due to the fact that it's usually replacing a piece that people agree is a fair target rather than outright destroying or removing without replacing. A fantastic card overall
Constant Mists- Great protection when you need it, plus it can be bought back if needed. Lands can be recovered through multiple means.
Disallow- A must have for counterspells. It covers all possible basis and is fantastic.
Heroic Intervention- Hexproof and indestructible at instant speed for 2. Amazing.
Krosan Grip- Split second artifact/enchantment destruction. Among the best removal for them there is.
Force of Vigor- Free artifact/enchantment removal with multiple targets.
Swan Song- 1 drop counterspell that hits everything but creatures. A great counterspell to have on hand.
Counterspell- There are better cards to replace this with that are still very cheap/budget and are overall better
Growth Spiral- A decent card but we can do better given the range of cards available in commander
Inspiring Call- See Growth Spiral
Return to Nature- There are so many better versions of this for an equal if not lesser cost. Or, for one more there are better cards which I will be recommending.
Struggle / Survive- Too limited, not enough value, not powerful enough.
Tale's End- This is just a bad version of disallow that very rarely gets any value.
Withstand Death- This is a bad version of other similar cards.
Wrap in Vigor- Very rarely do mass destruction effects happen, and when they do the usually say "cannot be regenerated". This seems really good but i've never really seen it get any value and will typically be a dead card most of the time.
Genesis Wave- Drop all the permanents (lands included) that you can afford.
Life from the Loam- pull lands from your graveyard and keep your engine going without running out. Omnath feeds on lands, and the more you drop the more cards you can draw and counters you can give out.
Nature's Lore, Three Visits- Pull forests (basic and non-basic that are forests) from your deck. Very helpful at any time.
Scapeshift- Grab all the lands you want, plus trigger your landfall and other such triggers
Splendid Reclamation- Pull all the lands from your graveyard. Nuff said.
Tempt with Discovery- If one person takes it then it's a better Explosive Vegetation. If more then it's an amazing card, but even if no one else does you get to pick your land and in a lands deck you will get more value.
Windfall- Refills your hand, interferes with opponent's plans, dumps lands in graveyard for later use.
Ground Assault- very limited and not worth running. There are better cards with similar if not stronger effects available to you
Hull Breach- There are better cards with similar if not stronger effects available to you
Quasiduplicate- no real apparent benefit to this over other cards that can more directly further your end goal.
Sylvan Awakening- I don't recommend turning your lands into creatures, especially enmass. It's just asking for all your lands to be mass removed. Very dangerous and will rarely get the payoff you need. Limited and will be a dead card in hand except in very specific scenarios.
Burgeoning- land Acceleration
Trade Routes- Bounce lands for more triggers and value, and in a pinch you can pitch them for more cards. Mana swamped becomes a thing of the past.
Exploration- Land acceleration
Domri, Anarch of Bolas- It seems like the main reason this is being run is for the +1 ability, which is really not worth running a card like this for. Not enough value.
Nissa, Steward of Elements- Without a large number of counters on her she gets minimal value, and if you do pay enough mana to make her viable there are already better cards you can run for those costs.
Eternal Witness- Unless you find your creatures or important cards dead often, or have a real way to take advantage of the cards in your graveyard, this is unnecessary and doesn't do enough for the deck.
Fertilid- A decent card but i've never found it gets enough value for the cost. it's a minimum of 5 mana for 1 basic land. You need to do this at least 3 or 4 times to really get enough value to be worth running over a land fetch.
Leafkin Druid- This is okay as a dork and an elemental, but I've found with tribal decks that you are better off running other creature and card types that better fuel your deck as a whole and really allow the tribe to shine, rather than forcing the tribe everywhere.
Tectonic Giant- Not good enough.
Animar, Soul of Elements- Unnecessary.
Zendikar Resurgent- Largely unnecessary due to the high number of lands in the deck, but can be kept if you feel it worthwhile
Frontier Bivouac- decent but comes in tapped and cannot be fetched. In a lands deck you will rarely be hurting for colors and the fact that this comes in tapped slows you down.
Simic Growth Chamber, Izzet Boilerworks, Gruul Turf- While I see what you are going for with these, they overall do slow you down and you have enough lands (once you bump up to 38 or so) that you shouldn't have any issue with them. I'd swamp these for basics as you have far more ways to grab those.
1 month ago
its the rock token entering that triggers Kodama of the East Tree ability to place Gruul Turf
Gruul Turf is triggering Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith to place the rock
since none of the rocks are placed by Kodama of the East Tree it does not stop the combo
1 month ago
1 month ago
I Couldn't help but notice a gruul deck hit meta
Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith & Kodama of the East Tree
Utilizing Gruul Turf as a win con
outside of me loosing a $5.00 bet, i'm actually excited / impressed
what's everyone else's thoughts and opinions?
p.s. i still wont build or play it, but i probably wont hate on it
1 month ago
Kodama of the East Tree seems like it should be slotted in. With Omnath and Gruul Turf that's infinite tokens and with Lotus Cobra or Amulet of Vigor that's infinite mana (not that it's needed here but still nice). With a fetch to start the chain or Crop Rotation, you could do this all on someone's end step too. Seems like Hour of Promise should be a consideration too (to have another way to grab the bounce land and if you grab Field of the Dead with it you can make infinite zombies if for some reason Omnath is removed).
1 month ago
I'm not trying to win with infinites because it's really a side wincon. The main goal is too thro rocks and if that doesn't work then I have side win cons. thank you for the suggestions it really dos help :D there is also an infinite that doesn't win on the spot it just makes infinite rocks. Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith + Kodama of the East Tree+ any of these -> Gruul Turf / Izzet Boilerworks / Simic Growth Chamber
2 months ago
Might want to look into adding these cards for combat step potency. Berserkers' Onslaught, Aggravated Assault, Domri, Anarch of Bolas, Savage Ventmaw, Rampaging Baloths, Skarrgan Hellkite, End-Raze Forerunners, terrastodon, Kogla, the Titan Ape, Scourge of the Throne
And these cards for card-draw and mana ramp Beast Whisperer, Garruk's Uprising, Castle Garenbrig, Llanowar Elves, Temple of Abandon, Gruul Turf, Sheltered Thicket, Cragcrown Pathway Flip, Return of the Wildspeaker, Elvish Mystic, Hunter's Insight, Ilysian Caryatid, Guardian Project, Bonders' Enclave, Nylea, Keen-Eyed,Lifecrafter's Bestiary
And the cuts I were thinking of could be Vivien, Champion of the Wilds, Spearbreaker Behemoth, Giant Adephage, Spidersilk Armor, Mistcutter Hydra, Shifting Ceratops, Sunder Shaman, Voracious Hydra, Rhonas's Monument, Blood Mist
This are just my first initial thoughts on the deck.