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Teferi's Puzzle Box
At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player puts the cards in his or her hand on the bottom of his or her library in any order, then draws that many cards.
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Teferi's Puzzle Box Discussion
4 days ago
Okay, so the draw step will start, causing Teferi's Puzzle Box and Nekusar, the Mindrazer's extra draw ability to trigger (but not yet be put on the stack. Then, the active player will draw a card as a turn based action, causing Nekusar's damage dealing ability to trigger. Then, state based actions will be checked, likely this means nothing, but a Dread Slag could be dying here. Then each player in APNAP order will put onto the stack any triggered abilities that have triggered since the last time a player received priority. Notably, you have 3 abilities waiting to be put on the stack, so you can arrange them however you like. You're opponent can respond right now if they drew an instant, and after each of the draw abilities resolve they may have new instants to try and stop your lock, but most likely they will find themselves empty handed very fast, and will not be able to play anything other than a sorcery until they find a way to deal with one of your pieces.
4 days ago
I was just about to write a response but cdkime beat me to it (grrr :D). Also while all he wrote is correct, he missed the fact that drawing a card for the turn doesn't use the stack, which means at the start of the draw phase your opponent will first draw his card (unless another effect prohibits this, say he has a Necropotence which btw will negate the combo entirely), your Nekusar will ping them and cause them to discard 2 cards and then since you are the owner of both Teferi's Puzzle Box and Nekusar, the Mindrazer(the part about the extra draw) I belive that you can order them in whatever order you like.
5 days ago
3 weeks ago
Any thoughts of using Mindmoil or Teferi's Puzzle Box? Your deck may be too finely tuned to need these chaos-ish cards but in my Kydele-Vial Smasher deck they really increase the velocity of churning through cards for value.
3 weeks ago
fangshway thank you for your suggestions. Intuition is already being considered, and I will probably pass on the Teferi's Puzzle Box since it puts cards on the bottom of my library rather than the graveyard like you mentioned. While Forgotten Creation is good for sifting through my deck, I think Jace's Archivist fulfills that role already while also serving as a Necrotic Ooze target when it's in my graveyard. I originally thought Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip was bad for this deck, because Ooze would only be able to use his ability once, get "transformed" which would be an illegal board state, and essentially just get exiled and returned to the battlefield untapped and affected by summoning sickness. However now that I think of it, say I have Necrotic Ooze and Training Grounds on the battlefield with Blighted Bat and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip in my graveyard. Training Grounds would effectively reduce the bat's haste enabling ability to zero, which means I would be able to use Jace's ability an infinite number of times and deck myself out. I'm not sure if this is a more favorable strategy than a Merfolk Looter combo with Pili-Pala and Palladium Myr to fulfill the same outcome, but you have given me much to think about. Thanks again!
BS-T on Mono-B WTF?!
3 weeks ago
I've recently assembled a Maralen of the Mornsong deck - not a mad 90-Swamp Ad Naus thing but definitely stacked with redundant lock out pieces and general unpleasantness.
It's a deck I want to keep around and keep the list for as all my other decks are way more casual and fun so it's a bit different.
What I want some help with though is ideas on what to 'tone down' the deck to for when I have a change of heart. I've been intrigued recently hearing about an unexpected Zur Bestow deck and a Ydris Landfall approach so I want to do something unexpected that isn't Maralen's usual fare. (These are from jeez, someone, on a podcast that I can't recall. Sorry!)
The only other Mono-B deck I've ever had was the Ob Nix precon so it's not totally familiar ground - What kind of approach do you think would be interesting for Mono-B with Maralen up top?
1 month ago
You other suggestions are all good ones but not exactly the way I want to go with this deck.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and upvoting!!