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Target player discards all the cards in his or her hand, then draws that many cards.
Collective Defiance deals 4 damage to target creature.
Collective Defiance deals 3 damage to target opponent.
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Collective Defiance Discussion
4 days ago
Thanks! I love playing it. I am considering some major changes to the deck to improve efficiency and reliability. Some new cards under consideration are:
Turn Aside for removal
Fateful Showdown as a potential new wincon
Metallurgic Summonings as a weird wincon if I see it working
Rise from the Tides to improve fumigate value and act as a wincon
Collective Defiance to wheel a player to get gas or mil the opponent
Torrential Gearhulk as a one of... maybe
I don't foresee massive changes, but I may be adding a few of these cards in after rigorous testing. Overall, I should do well in this heavily aggressive format, where the primary combo deck is stopped by my Authority of the Consuls entirely.
4 days ago
A friend of mine got a Gentry mono-red deck. He using similar cards and performs very well. i'm writing some of them at below. You should consider my suggests and modify your deck.
Expedite, Renegade Tactics, Shock, Fiery Temper, Burn from Within, Skyship Stalker, Weaver of Lightning, Tormenting Voice,Harness the Storm, Lightning Axe, Sanguinary Mage, Savage Alliance, Incendiary Flow, Collective Defiance, Bedlam Reveler
4 days ago
Oh crud! I didn't see you were running Fatal push already, my bad. Yeah I think a full playset of shock + fatal push would be ideal, and really unlicensed disintegration is good regardless of the 2 damage ability (I run it with no artifacts).
Collective Defiance is a great card! I wouldn't run a full playset or anything but definitely 2-3.
4 days ago
I have considered Unlicensed Disintegration because of that awesome utility, but I only have 4 artifacts present which are the gearhulks, at that cost I would just rather include another Fatal Push since I am running 3 already. I could take down 1 Galvanic Bombardment to include that 4th Fatal Push which is probably what I will do. What would you think about dropping Galvanic Bombardment for another Shock and another Collective Defiance or would there be another 3 of set I should include? Thanks for the suggestions!
6 days ago
Really nice idea, looks good and fun from goldfishes. Collective Defiance?
6 days ago
Thank you for the feedback! Long explanation ahead.
TL/DR: All good suggestions, most of which I've tried, and none of those have made the deck perform better in playtesting. Which is ultimately the problem I'm running into. The better cards seem to be making things run worse. :-\
I've actually tried the Bomat Courier and found him to be surprisingly lackluster in the deck. Since most of my cards are burning my opponent I'm only ever getting a swing or two out of the courier if he drops turn one and usually I'm not actually interested in emptying my hand because I often have a large grip of cards since I'm replacing most of them. And only a select few of my cards have madness so emptying my hand isn't as appealing as it could be. Also, Bomat Courier is poor late game while Insolent Neonate can theoretically cycle a madness card for me late game.
I haven't tried Collective Defiance and it would be more versatile early game than Shreds of Sanity but the main advantage of Shreds of Sanity is that it can get back both Fiery Temper and Alms of the Vein and cast either one off its discard effect. That's potentially a lot more damage than a Collective Defiance could do. I'm considering it for the sideboard though as it is a very versatile card.
Since Harnessed Lightning only hits creatures it can't stop + combo. And I'm usually not shooting my Shock at creatures actually (which is counterintuitive). It's usually turned into a Lightning Bolt to the face by Thermo-Alchemist.
I'm open to suggestions and I agree that all those cards are very good. I just can't seem to get them working in my deck.
1 week ago
Awesome deck, great job!
Inverter of Truth is the biz
2 weeks ago
You want some more sideboard cards to use that are budget?
You can give any of these cards a shot. You only have 3 cards listed in your sideboard.
If it were me, sticking to a budget:
Or something like that, now if you weren't on a budget, I would suggest some Chandra, Torch of Defiance's up in there.