: Add to your mana pool.
, , Sacrifice a land: Destroy target nonbasic land.
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Dust Bowl Discussion
5 days ago
Cut -- Abyssal Gatekeeper (unlike Fleshbag and Co, this can hurt more than it helps since it isn't around to feed itself) Bloodghast (no real advantage with Shirei, and is inconsistent as redundancy), Bloodthrone Vampire (doesn't offer you anything for feeding it), Coffin Queen (better with high cost ETBs), Crypt Rats (doesn't function with your commander), Deathgreeter (life gain is pointless), Disciple of Phenax, Falkenrath Noble, Hell's Caretaker (too grindy).
Also consider, Dance of the Dead, Mindslicer (you only need to sac this once with a draw engine and you've basically won), Toxic Deluge, Mesmeric Orb (most efficient yard filler ever), and Ad Nauseam.
You could also safely cut some of the 0 mana creatures since they don't really do anything, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, and Dark Prophecy (you already have a lot of draw, and this can actually kill you if you have a slow or unclear path to victory).
Some additional lands to consider: Inventors' Fair, you have enough artifacts to satisfy it, and it tutors some of your most needed cards; Westvale Abbey Flip can get you out of a jam if you pay too much life; and Wasteland/Tectonic Edge/Dust Bowl help you play a little more into Crucible of Worlds.
5 days ago
sonnet666: Thank you for your kind words :D it's good to know I'm heading the right direction.
I will definately be keeping my Wrath of God Alter (I need to get a higher res version of it done). Also, as a side note, I finally got the D.Va cute spray last night, thank you Zarya for ulting next to my mech :P
I'm not sure if I will do a primer for this one or just a simple breakdown and link to the primer in my main one (and from my main one to this deck). The other thing is that the primer is a quite out of date. I was thinking of talking about different builds in the new version I've been writing (for the last 12 months, real life has been super busy this last year) and then just talking about the basics of the combo in the cEDH one.
As for the deck itself, I had considered including Crucible of Worlds / Wasteland / Tectonic Edge (which is better than Dust Bowl) but was on the fence about it. Could be worth including though. Miren, the Moaning Well is just another sac outlet on a land which is super usefule for things liek Academy Rector.
Mikokoro and Selvala are carry-overs to help deal with opponent's reshuffle effects. I'm not sure how common these are so I thought I would leave them in (at worst Mikokoro is a colourless land) and with typically lower land counts, Selvala should be tapping for ~3 mana a hit. Though I am open to ideas for replacements.
5 days ago
illumfolly, needs Infernal Darkness, and I'd prefer if you had a gameplan beyond "make things come back from the yard a lot." Can you think of any combos that fit? Mike&Trike might work, especially since Triskelion can function with Shirei to clear out your opponent's boards in between turns, but the deck would need more of a reanimator subtheme to support it. You can definitely cut a lot of the 3 and 4 mana stuff, like Disciple of Phenax and Falkenrath Noble.
enpc that is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned making alternate lists. You did a great job of streamlining and not being attached to cards or lines of play, which can be really difficult when evaluating your own deck, so good job, really nice work.
I think the cards you cut are also really great examples of how paper lists often look different than in-theory, competitive, "optimized" lists. There are certain cards that are super fun and interactive to play with in real life, like Titania or Gift of Immortality from your list, that you don't want to cut from you deck because of advantages they afford you, the player, like fun or meta advantages, but become slightly outclassed when you move into a vacuum with no budget, where all you're trying to do is just win as quickly as you can. That doesn't mean it wrong or non-competitive for players to play those cards, just like players aren't non-competitive if their decks don't look exactly like the lists posted here. It just just means that the cards they're playing are affording them different advantages than what is generally considered optimal.
Anyway, discourse over, you should totally port your primer over to the new list, or link back to your other decklist, or both. (Also, I love your Wrath of God alter, definitely keep that included.)
Lastly, and this may just be me, but I totally think you could keep Crucible of Worlds in the streamlined version, especially if you freed up some u-land slots for Wasteland, Tectonic Edge and maybe Dust Bowl. Do you really need Mikokoro, Center of the Sea and Miren, the Moaning Well? The life isn't really worthwhile, and the Altar of Dementia combo kills people just as easily when you pass the turn. Also, neither Mikokoro or Selvala are really card advantage like you say in your primer, they're card parity. Card advantage, at least in my book, is only when you get more cards than your opponents.
1 week ago
Have you ever thought about Balance?
QKey on Olivia, Duel
1 week ago
I think Crucible of Worlds does fit better in the deck, then Underworld Connections. Underworld Connections locks up mana and does not very unfair thinks like Crucible of Worlds + Wasteland, Dust Bowl or Tectonic Edge
1 month ago
I chose to not include cards that can only be used to get rid of a single non-basic, so Dust Bowl's ability to sacrifice land after land to continue to destroy non-basic lands is what puts it squarely into this list.
1 month ago
+1 good looking mono colored tribal! Your artifacts are well toned for high costed tribes and have inspired me to build my own tribal list. suggestions:
High Market to neuter removal spells.
Cavern of Souls to round out all the good tribal spells in your list.
Planar Rebirth with your high basic land count could be devastating alongside Emeria Shepard.
How about a Scroll Rack with that Land Tax for some card advantage!
2 months ago
Hello all! I've put off finishing Gitrog EDH for three months now, but am trying to complete it by year's end. I only need eight cards, but since I'm probably not going to end up getting Crucible of Worlds or Azusa, Lost but Seeking from anybody here, really only six. They are:
And Oracle of Mul Daya.
I'm updating my binder with a few C16 stuff a little later, but for now, anyone can take a look at it and pitch a trade if they see anything they like. Thanks in advance!