Kher Keep

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Commander 2013 (C13) Rare
Time Spiral (TSP) Rare

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Kher Keep

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Kher Keep Discussion

NetholonTheArchmage on Sharing = Caring with Zedruu

22 hours ago

A nice deck you put together here, I really do like your approach on the token strategy :) I also agree with you about letting your opponents also play their game. There are a lot of Zedruu-decks around here which are built around stax, abusing the goats abillities... In my own deck ( Zedruu, Enlightened Master ) i'm using Zedruu as a value-engine by donating global-effect-cards like Howling Mine , drawing some extra cards and getting some extra lifepoints. Do you run her as your commander for the same purpose? And if this is the case, what are your donation targets, or do you simply gift away some of your tokens?

Whatsoever it's definitely a great deck, upvote from me :) Suggestions: Kher Keep as a token-producing land and Trading Post to put your tokens to some alternate use

Jaypay1994 on Purphoros Tokens

3 weeks ago

Also, after looking at the decklist, while your curve is extremely low (which is great), i noticed a severe lack of ramp card in the deck, and an abundance of lands. I would think about cutting down to 34-36 lands, and replacing those cut lands with ramp spells. I personally recommend:


I would also like to recommend a few cards that would be a great fit here for your strategy:

Overall, cool deck idea. I hope these suggestions help!

aswordforthefallen on Indomitable Emrakul

3 weeks ago

I'm not sure about the sideboard just yet. This is a tricky and awesome deck with a lot of room for mind games, interesting sequencing, and overwhelming with goblins as a solid plan B. If the opponent keeps mana open to counter and spot remove, the goblins keep coming and crashing through. If they tap out to wrath the board, a surprise plant token becomes Emrakul. I did come across Kher Keep and Geier Reach Sanitarium, both of which merit playtesting. Blood Moon looks like it has a home in the sideboard at minimum, possibly in lieu of some number of Guttural Response to better cripple Jeskai control, in addition to non-blue decks. Goblin Assault as a side-board or main-board option might be better than it looks what with having plant tokens that don't move. The last thing I can think of tonight is having in the SB Kari Zev's Expertise in conjunction with having 8 rituals to cast IC on T4 using one of the opponent's creatures.

Guerte on [[Primer]] - Daretti - Degenerate Artifacts

1 month ago

So, if I decide the Tron lands aren’t worth it, these are the ones I’m thinking of putting in their place:

  • Blinkmoth Nexus: Synergy with the deck as it can become sac fodder for Daretti, or a blocker to protect him.
  • Inkmoth Nexus: Synergy with the deck as it can become sac fodder for Daretti, or a blocker to protect him.
  • Isolated Watchtower: Can scry away something we don’t want, and possibly ramp us. The weakest of the choices in my opinion.
  • Kher Keep: Provides a creature to protect Daretti.
  • Mishra's Factory: Synergy with the deck as it can become sac fodder for Daretti, or a blocker to protect him.
  • Sequestered Stash: Synergizes with the deck by dumping cards in the graveyard and popping one back on top.
  • Thespian's Stage: Can copy any land we want.

bushido_man96 on How to make this deck ...

2 months ago

Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder and Krenko, Mob Boss are some good token generators. You could really do your mana curve a favor and probably go with early goblin drops to support the Krenko rout. Ghoulcaller Gisa is pretty solid, and for lots of fun, equip her with Thornbite Staff. That can make a lot of tokens you can then sacrifice for fun stuff. Kher Keep is a solid land to include. Even cards like Myr Battlesphere and Pentavus can provide you with sac outlets. Hangarback Walker is another solid option. Blue has options like Thopter Spy Network and Efficient Construction for generating tokens.

So, with your commander, what you care about is creatures getting sacrificed. Not dying, but sacrificed specifically. So, the best way to help yourself out is to not rely on your opponents to provide the sac fodder. For that, you need more sac outlets of your own. Cards like Carrion Feeder, Yahenni, Undying Partisan, Viscera Seer, Phyrexian Ghoul and Nantuko Husk are all free sac outlets that you let you start putting counters on your commander really quick. Red offers Goblin Bombardment, which could be switched out with Vicious Shadows.

Archfiend of Depravity would fit your theme well, too, along with the Eldrazi you have with the Annihiliator mechanic, but you don't need too many of them. Running three or four of them is probably sufficient.

You want to protect your commander, so add cards like Swiftfoot Boots, Lightning Greaves, and a budget option no one ever thinks about, Diplomatic Immunity.

Distended Mindbender could probably go. I fail to see how it fits what you want it to do with your Commander. Patron of the Moon doesn't look like it fits, and neither does Dreamscape Artist. I'd cut Sire of Stagnation as well. Blight Herder probably isn't great, either. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur is a good card, and good for card draw, but if you're opponents aren't playing creatures, they can't sacrifice them, and it just might make you a big fat target. I'd ditch Lotus Bloom for something more like Worn Powerstone or even a Mind Stone.

I hope these suggestions help. Thraximundar looks like a fun commander to run. I hope these suggestions help you to focus the deck more, and make it run more smoothly. Let me know what you think.

A55Destroyer69 on The Fat Red Line - Purphoros EDH

2 months ago

one better on Fellwar Stone would be Mind Stone. The difference between them is that fellwar will quite possibly be tapping for, essentially, colourless mana and that's it. Mind Stone, on the other hand, will tap for colourless mana AND can draw you a card if you start to flood. This cannot be done with Fellwar Stone, and since you have 36 lands that add R in some way, you're probably never going to need it to tap for ...

Also, there's a bunch of stuff in the deck that either isn't needed or there's far better substitutes -

Some cards you may want to put in the deck instead would be:

or, for a less budget-friendly approach:

By the way, Insurrection and similar effects steal your opponents' creatures, and then, unless the opponent has an Avacyn. This basically means that you get to steal all of your opponents' creatures, and then destroy them ALL (from targetting yourself with Mogg Infestation) and then that's almost always a "I win the game" synergy.

Zealous Conscripts is an infinite combo piece with kiki, since his ability is unconditional, meaning your stuff, your opponents' stuff. you basically get infinite mana if you have an Ashnod's Altar out, and you also deal infinite damage with Purphoros out.

kiki-jiki is just generally great in Purphoros EDH, since you can copy your Emrakul's Hatcher, SG Commander or Solemn Simulacrum (also thins deck and draws cards) each turn.

Vandalblast is generally good removal in red decks, as it's a one-sided artifact wrath, and if not it's just a Shatter, which is still not bad. Fiery Confluence is kind of the better-but-worse version of this, as it's more versatile, treated as a pyroclasm effect, or as additional pings from purphoros, or as artifact removal, just...less.

Solemn Simulacrum is generally decent - gets a land out of your deck, draws a card when it dies. Not much bad.

Panharmonicon is AMAZING!!! basically, you play an emrakul's hatcher and you get 2 triggers, giving you +1 mana potetial, and then you got 7 creatures into play, so that's 7 triggers from purphoros... but he's also ETB, so you get 14 triggers

-> that's 28 damage from 5 mana

Goblin Warrens isn't really that amazing, but you basically get +1 goblins, and 3 triggers for , which can just slowly eat at your opponents' life totals.

Empty the Warrens is also kind of similar, as you'll only ever really be playing it for 6-8 goblins, but that's still a solid 12 damage for 4 mana (value).

Kher Keep is quite similar, as I find with my deck that there are often better options at hand (literally. hehe...), but it is still, I guess, an emergency situation, last stand sort of thing, where you have just such dead draws, and so you just get to ping for each turn.

If you feel like your deck still doesn't get to a comfortable position with its mana, you can consider the following:

These cards will surely help you out. Although Gauntlet of Power will also potentially benefit your opponents, should you really care if they're just going to die in a few turns? Probably not. For just less than Caged Sun. Essentially, based of what I just stated, Gauntlet of Power is better (and Gauntlet of Might is best - less again XD).

in addition to the Gauntlet effects, you could add in this little series of mana rocks. Mind Stone can replace Fellwar Stone, for reasons stated previously, but then on top of that, there is Hedron Archive, which can draw you 2 cards, and Dreamstone Hedron draws 3. I don't really think that the two expensive ones really conform to the deck as well, but they're still considerations, I guess.

So, most of these cards aren't really that exciting. Avatar of Fury is pretty solid, but doesn't really interact with Purphoros much, apart from being a creature...

Guttersnipe definitely doen't fit in. You're running 23 spells, and I'd say that you'd need to run closer to 40 spells to consider him.

Young Pyromancer is just in the list because of my own personal thoughts on him, and I don't really think he's that fantastic in a "creature etb" deck like purphoros. He does make tokens, so all your spells essentially have +2 damage to opponents, but again, there are only 23 spells in the deck. If it was something more like Zada, Hedron Grinder, where he relies on going wide with creatures, that's a little different.

Devastating Summons is also kind of dodgy in this deck. You sacrifice some lands for 2 creatures. I'd much rather sacrifice X lands for X creatures.

Now, don't get me wrong. This deck is a burn deck, but normal burn spells, such as Sizzle are not very good. This is commander, where each player gets 40 life. Burning with 3 damage from such effects will take ages, and there's only so many unique ones. You're best off replacing it with something that will further your gamestate, such as kiki-jiki, Panharmonicon or Impact Tremors.

Mass Mutiny is kind of fine. The problem with it is that it's only one creature, when you could take every creature, without targetting. This means that your opponent can't protect their creatures from getting stolen without using countermagic. Also, stated above, Insurrection + Mogg Infestation is an almost guaranteed game-winning play, which can't really be done with just 3 more creatures.

Scour from Existence is unconditional removal that gets past Avacyn, but is really quite expensive - 7 mana to exile a creature. If it really requires this to get rid of it, you've messed something up...

Conjurer's Closet is kind of alright, but it's really not that fantastic. You would be best taking it out for a tutor, such as Goblin Matron, Imperial Recruiter or Gamble. These cards will help you find more stuff, like kiki-jiki, SG Commander or others that will be just as, if not more, effective than whoever is already in play.

Endless Atlas is fine, if you want to pay so much mana just to draw a couple of cards. I use Mind's Eye, which may be more expensive to cast, but it's cheaper to draw, and also can draw more than just 1 card each turn.

Madblind Mountain is interesting, but not necessary. It does let you shuffle your library (for whatever reason), but apart from that, it's just a slowland. You can tutor it up with a panorama, but what does it actually contribute to?

Driemer84 on Brudiclad's Repurposing Plant

4 months ago

After some testing I've got some ideas for changes.

Control Cuts: Release the Gremlins and Descent of the Dragons. Release is too expensive and not worth the couple tokens in provides. Descent of the Dragons has really only been used to blow up payoff cards on my side of the board like Chasm Skulker. You really only need one 4/4 dragon with Brudiclad to get the payoff since he'll turn whatever into a 4/4 once he's online, and I'm not really a fan of giving my opponents 4/4s even if it means taking out a couple key threats. This leads me to replacements.

Control Replacement: Vandalblast and Blasphemous Act. I think artifact destruction is an important option to have so Vandalblast comes in. I just don't think the 2/2s from Release is worth the mana it takes. Creature destruction is also important so Blasphemous Act comes in so we still have some board control.

Token Production Cuts: Saheeli's Artistry, Stolen Identity, and Followed Footsteps. This part may be controversial, but I think these cards are too expensive. Artistry and Stolen Identity may still be worth it because they create the token immediately, but I had mentioned earlier that relying on opponent's creatures isn't the best game plan. They either aren't something you want to create a bunch of or they are legendary. Followed Footsteps doesn't give you a payoff until your next upkeep. Too much can happen in three other players turns for me to want to spend 5 mana on it.

Note: Supplant Form is sticking around for now because I think the fact that it's instant speed and a form of pseudo removal make it worth while.

Token Production Replacements: Cackling Counterpart, Fated Infatuation, and Twinflame The downside here is that they all only target your creatures, but they are all half the price, and two of them are instant speed. I want to tune the deck to be more self reliant which is why I'm ok with having to target my own creatures. I realize Twinflame's token exiles at the end of the turn, but with Brudiclad online it won't matter.

Value Creature Cut: Reef Worm I've had Reef Worm on board and destroyed a couple of times, but the tokens always turn into something else more powerful before I've ever had a chance to work up the chain.

Value Creature Replacement: Feldon of the Third Path Stuff is going to die. Feldon is perfect for taking advantage of this. I haven't had a chance to test him yet, but I think he has great potential.

Payoff Cuts: Phyrexian Processor, Utvara Hellkite, and Godo, Bandit Warlord I think Phyrexian Processor is too slow and expensive. Karn, Scion of Urza is what we want for this effect. Utvara Hellkite can create some silly boardstates, but I think Sharding Sphinx does it better at two less mana. I'm not 100% on this one, but it's casting cost is really what does it for me. The last cut here I'm not 100% on either. Godo gets cut because it's also expensive and only goes infinite with Helm of the Host, unlike Combat Celebrant and Lightning Runner. I realize Godo always gets Helm, but to cast and equip is still 11 mana in one turn. To have Brudiclad on board, cast Godo, and equip helm is a lot to ask.

Payoff Replacements:Wurmcoil Engine, Timestream Navigator, and Bane of Bala Ged. Wurmcoil is a durable threat with value leftover if it dies. Timestream Navigator can provide us with infinite turns if we get a token copy onboard. Bane of Bala Ged is something that can really clear up a board if you're able to make an army of these. Tidespout Tyrant is something else I've thought about, but we aren't guaranteed to be able to cast a few spells after we have an army of Tyrants.

Miscellaneous Cuts:Mechanized Production and Mox Diamond. Mechanized Production I'm not that sure about. Obviously it has win the game written right on it, but 4 mana to copy a thopter or gold or treasure, which is most likely what we're going to want to copy because of the sheer number we can produce, isn't all that exciting. Mox Diamond comes out because we don't need the super early game ramp and we aren't abusing it with Paradox Engine or something. I'd rather make the land drop that put Mox Diamond on the board. With a 6 drop commander, the land is usually just as good.

Miscellaneous Replacements: Pongify and Rapid Hybridization Cheap ways to deal with opponents creatures, a way to blow up Wurmcoil Engine or Chasm Skulker. These cards someone make up for the loss of Descent of the Dragons too.

These changes bring the average cmc from 3.51 to 3.32.

This leaves me with a handful of cards I'm still considering. Draw Potential Additions: Ponder, Impulse, Intuition, Thirst for Knowledge, and Frantic Search It's important that we find a payoff or a way to make a payoff a token so I think the deck could use some added digging. I think the most powerful of these are Intuition, Thirst, and Frantic Search because it can put some payoffs in the graveyard if you have Feldon online.

Payoff Potential Additions: Inferno Titan, Frost Titan, Hangarback Walker I'm not sure they're necessary, but they could be fun additions. Inferno Titan is the better of the two titans, but I think it's worth talking about them both. I like that the deck is starting to diversify threats. Cutting Godo and Utvara because we have better extra combat and mass token producing payoffs in cheaper creatures. Inferno Titan kind of lines up with Bane in the permanent removal department, but it's damage can go to the face. I'm not sure Frost Titan provides much, but I thought I'd mention it. I guess it could potentially shut a player down for the next turn. I really like Chasm Skulker, and I think Hangarback Walker would make a great addition as a redundant effect.

Lands Potential Cuts: Inventors' Fair and Academy Ruins These are lands I was testing out because artifacts, but really our deck is just a bunch of rocks. The Mimic Vat and Helm of the Host are about the only cards I'd want to activate either of these lands for, but I'm not sure I think the cost is worth it. More testing may be required, but I'm not sure I've been in the situations where I must tutor for a Helm or give up a draw to get helm back.

Land Potential Replacements: Command Beacon, Scavenger Grounds, Strip Mine Right now I don't have an extra Command Beacon or Strip Mine. Command Beacon seems great for a 6 cmc commander. Scavenger Grounds and Strip Mine are just great utility lands, but I'm not missing out on too much without them for now.

On the other hand, Desolate Lighthouse has been great for digging when there's nothing else to do, and Kher Keep is another great token producer at 2 mana a pop.

Driemer84 on Anything You Can Do... : Brudiclad EDH

4 months ago

Daedalus19876: No problem in the delay! So I've gotten a few more games in and I have some major changes to talk about. I'd love to hear some feed back and correction on my thought process. Incoming wall of text.

Control Cuts: Release the Gremlins and Descent of the Dragons.
Release is too expensive and not worth the couple tokens in provides. Descent of the Dragons has really only been used to blow up payoff cards on my side of the board like Chasm Skulker. You really only need one 4/4 dragon with Brudiclad to get the payoff since he'll turn whatever into a 4/4 once he's online, and I'm not really a fan of giving my opponents 4/4s even if it means taking out a couple key threats. This leads me to replacements.

Control Replacement: Vandalblast and Blasphemous Act.
I think artifact destruction is an important option to have so Vandalblast comes in. I just don't think the 2/2s from Release is worth the mana it takes. Creature destruction is also important so Blasphemous Act comes in so we still have some board control.

Token Production Cuts: Saheeli's Artistry, Stolen Identity, and Followed Footsteps.
This part may be controversial, but I think these cards are too expensive. Artistry and Stolen Identity may still be worth it because they create the token immediately, but I had mentioned earlier that relying on opponent's creatures isn't the best game plan. They either aren't something you want to create a bunch of or they are legendary. Followed Footsteps doesn't give you a payoff until your next upkeep. Too much can happen in three other players turns for me to want to spend 5 mana on it.

Note: Supplant Form is sticking around for now because I think the fact that it's instant speed and a form of pseudo removal make it worth while.

Token Production Replacements: Cackling Counterpart, Fated Infatuation, and Twinflame The downside here is that they all only target your creatures, but they are all half the price, and two of them are instant speed. I want to tune the deck to be more self reliant which is why I'm ok with having to target my own creatures. I realize Twinflame's token exiles at the end of the turn, but with Brudiclad online it won't matter.

Value Creature Cut: Reef Worm I've had Reef Worm on board and destroyed a couple of times, but the tokens always turn into something else more powerful before I've ever had a chance to work up the chain.

Value Creature Replacement: Feldon of the Third Path Stuff is going to die. Feldon is perfect for taking advantage of this. I haven't had a chance to test him yet, but I think he has great potential.

Payoff Cuts: Phyrexian Processor, Utvara Hellkite, and Godo, Bandit Warlord I think Phyrexian Processor is too slow and expensive. Karn, Scion of Urza is what we want for this effect. Utvara Hellkite can create some silly boardstates, but I think Sharding Sphinx does it better and two less mana. I'm not 100% on this one, but it's casting cost is really what does it for me. The last cut here I'm not 100% on either. Godo gets cut because it's also expensive and only goes infinite with Helm of the Host, unlike Combat Celebrant and Lightning Runner. I realize Godo always gets Helm, but to cast and equip is still 11 mana in one turn. To have Brudiclad on board, cast Godo, and equip helm is a lot to ask.

Payoff Replacements:Wurmcoil Engine, Timestream Navigator, and Bane of Bala Ged. The first two are obvious. Bane of Bala Ged is something that can really clear up a board if you're able to make an army of these. Tidespout Tyrant is something else I've thought about, but we aren't guaranteed to be able to cast a few spells after we have an army of Tyrants.

Miscellaneous Cuts:Mechanized Production and Mox Diamond Mechanized Production I'm not that sure about. Obviously it has win the game written right on it, but 4 mana to copy a thopter or gold or treasure, which is most likely what we're going to want to copy because of the sheer number we can produce, isn't all that exciting. Mox Diamond comes out because we don't need the super early game ramp and we aren't abusing it with Paradox Engine or something. I'd rather make the land drop that put Mox Diamond on the board. With a 6 drop commander, the land is usually just as good.

Miscellaneous Replacements: Pongify and Rapid Hybridization Cheap ways to deal with opponents creatures, a way to blow up Wurmcoil Engine or Chasm Skulker. These cards someone make up for the loss of Descent of the Dragons too.

These changes bring the average cmc from 3.51 to 3.32.

This leaves me with a handful of cards I'm still considering.
Draw Potential Additions: Ponder, Impulse, Intuition, Thirst for Knowledge, and Frantic Search.
It's important that we find a payoff or a way to make a payoff a token so I think the deck could use some added digging. I think the most powerful of these are Intuition, Thirst, and Frantic Search because it can put some payoffs in the graveyard if you have Feldon online.

Payoff Potential Additions: Inferno Titan, Frost Titan, Hangarback Walker I'm not sure they're necessary, but they could be fun additions. Inferno Titan is the better of the two titans, but I think it's worth talking about them both. I like that the deck is starting to diversify threats. Cutting Godo and Utvara because we have better extra combat and mass token producing payoffs in cheaper creatures. Inferno Titan kind of lines up with Bane in the permanent removal department, but it's damage can go to the face. I'm not sure Frost Titan provides much, but I thought I'd mention it. I guess it could potentially shut a player down for the next turn. I really like Chasm Skulker, and I think Hangarback Walker would make a great addition as a redundant effect.

Lands Potential Cuts: Inventors' Fair and Academy Ruins These are lands I was testing out because artifacts. But really our deck is just a bunch of rocks. The Mimic Vat and Helm of the Host are about the only cards I'd want to activate either of these lands for, but I'm not sure I think the cost is worth it. More testing may be required, but I'm not sure I've been in the situations where I must tutor for a Helm or give up a draw to get helm back.

Land Potential Replacements: Command Beacon, Scavenger Grounds, Strip Mine Right now I don't have an extra Command Beacon or Strip Mine. Command Beacon seems great for a 6 cmc commander and I notice you are already running it. Scavenger Grounds and Strip Mine are just great utility lands, but I'm not missing out on too much without them for now.

On the other hand, Desolate Lighthouse has been great for digging when there's nothing else to do, and Kher Keep is another great token producer at 2 mana a pop.

Thanks for reading if you made it this far!

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