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Vault of the Archangel
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, : Creatures you control gain deathtouch and lifelink until end of turn.
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Vault of the Archangel Discussion
1 day ago
Ok, if you have 2 extra cards the first thing you should take out is Always Watching notice it says nontoken. as for suggestions one card is Vault of the Archangel great card lifelink and deathtouch make all tokens threats and awkward to block or attack into. also Sorin, Solemn Visitor is a great buff and gives lifelink also note that it is till you next turn so it also good for blocks.
2 days ago
Hey Tethys, thanks for the comment and upvote! Your well thought out comment is perfect, and I appreciate the advice. I am not a Mardu player by trade. I'm almost always dabbling in Azorius, Esper, and Dimir.
As for 1), I completely agree. In fact, these thoughts have been running through my mind regarding this deck. I hate Blood Moon, so I think your advice is exactly what I was needing.
2), I also dislike relying on Westvale Abbey Flip for the same reasons you listed. I've not run Vault of the Archangel before, but I see why it would be a better utility land for this deck. Could lead to a lot of blowouts.
3)+4), Another good point. I've replaced them with Pithing Needle and Nihil Spellbomb accordingly. This may sound like a dumb question, but why Nihil Spellbomb over Relic of Progenitus? For that matter, would Tormod's Crypt be best for this deck, considering it revolves around Monastery Mentor?
3 days ago
+1, Nice deck! Four things though regarding fine-tuning it:
1) Given this deck's mana requirements, the importance (and prevalence) of Turn 1 and 2 disruption spells, and the relevance of these cards in playing around Blood Moon, I'm not sure your spread of basics is optimal. At very least, I would advocate running 1/2/2 Mountain/Plains/Swamp over the deck's current 2/2/1, and personally, would probably go even further and run 1/1/2 Mountain/Plains/Swamp and up the number of Marsh Flats from 1 to 2. Four basics is totally sufficient IMO, and this would still leave you with 9 fetchable lands for 7 fetches.
For comparison, I have been tuning the land base for B/W Tokens for a long time and have found the optimal distribution to be 9 fetches to 6 fetchable lands (four of which are basics). Granted, that is for a two color deck and you are definitely going to have to run more Shocks than I do, but I can tell you that 2 mountains and 2 plains in a 19 land deck is inevitably going to result in more mulliganed hands due to mana conflicts. On that note, your total land count also seems a little low even given the four Baubles. Getting Monastery Mentor out relatively early is usually pretty important, so I would bump the total land count up to 20.
2) To an extent this is personal preference, but I think you are going to get more value from running Vault of the Archangel for your colorless utility land than you would from Westvale Abbey Flip. Your deck has a solid amount of mainboard lifegain opportunities already, but it's hard to overstate the value of being able to turn your 1/1 tokens into Deathtouch killing machines against decks like Eldrazi Tron, Grixis Shadow, Merfolk, Humans, etc. On the other hand, even if you are able to ultimate Westvale Abbey Flip, which is less often in practice than you might think, Ormendahl simply dies to Path.
3) I assume you have Slaughter Games in the sideboard for Combo hate, but in a 19 or even 20 land deck, that card is going to be too slow in practice most of the time, especially against Storm. Surgical Extraction is far and away the superior card, especially given that you are running 8 discard spells.
4) Your suite of sideboard graveyard hate is very strong, and if your meta is filled with Storm and Snapcaster decks, I can't argue with your choices, but given that RIP significantly devalues your own copies of Lingering Souls, I would at least advocate considering Nihil Spellbomb as an alternative, both for the fact that it is one-sided, as well as for the value of the cantrip.
4 days ago
That land base is horrible, man, even with a budget!
Add Command Tower for one. You should probably also run Miren, the Moaning Well. Maybe try adding Opal Palace, Reliquary Tower, Rogue's Passage, Vault of the Archangel, Murmuring Bosk, and Forbidding Watchtower for one. You can also try your luck with bounce lands, signets, and tap lands, but you really need to add duals.
1 week ago
Hmm, maybe Gideon of the Trials in place of Sorin, Solemn Visitor? Lower CMC, the badge he makes, can neutralize threats, and then turns into his beast mode. You need some man-lands, like Shambling Vent or Creeping Tar Pit, which I would use in place of Vault of the Archangel and maybe a Watery Grave. Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip seems like a bit too far. Maybe drop him for another Mentor and a Push? This deck does look fun though.
1 week ago
redhead4 Im a fan of your using Arguel's Blood Fast. I thought of throwing it in my deck too. In my opinion I think your deck might work more smoothly with less four drops. If you really like Bloodline Keeper then Id recommend removing Vampire Nocturnus since he requires 3B which can be hit or miss in decks with more than one color. Instead youd probably find a lot of success with putting in Blood Artist since youll be dishing out way more tokens than my deck would. Also, Vault of the Archangel is dope and its going in my deck. However, I think maybe you have too many non basic lands. Maybe removing Nythkos, or one of the dual lands and putting in some plains/swamps will help. These are just ideas, not sure if theyll work, but might be worth a shot.
3 weeks ago
hi dude, the deck looks sweet.
Have you tried Vault of the Archangel ? once you have that, it would be hard for your opponent to attack and to defend your blocks.
Sorin, Solemn Visitor can also pressure you opponent since you get quickly get his ultimate.
3 weeks ago
Josh_Estrella Thanks for the response! :D Also thank you, this is my first EDH deck I've ever made, and everyone here is being incredibly helpful :) I actually just got some of my cards in the mail today. I added in my Viscera Seer, Tainted Field, Tainted Peak, Gifted Aetherborn, Vault of the Archangel, Isolated Chapel, Bishop of Rebirth, Stromkirk Noble, and my Yahenni, Undying Partisan. I still need all 4 tutors (which is going to murder my wallet) Necropotence, Shared Animosity, and a couple of others. I'll update my list tomorrow morning, it's pretty late right now. Anyway, I'll look into Toxic Deluge since I haven't gotten a Damnation yet. I was looking into Bloodghast, but I wasn't quite sure on it since I hadn't seen anyone mention it until now. Also, I already have a Necropolis Regent in there :) I had a Mephidross Vampire, but I opted for the Necropolis Regent instead. I do see what you are saying about the Butcher of Malakir though, 7 cmc for a 5/4 even though he does fly... I think something better can go there. Some stuff I have on hand right now is Vampire Cutthroat, Pulse Tracker, Tithe Drinker (not really a fan), Voldaren Pariah Flip, and Olivia Voldaren just to name a few off the top of my head. I was thinking maybe one of the 1 drops? (kinda leaning towards Vampire Cutthroat maybe) I'm all ears for suggestions though. Anyway, I'm kinda worried that my list a little bit light on the vampires compared to what I hear you guys say you have. I think Frank_Glascock said he has 33 creatures 30 being vampires if I remember right... Oh, lastly have you guys considered a Vanquisher's Banner? I thought that might be an ok card draw tool... You guys are the experts though