Each opponent sacrifices a creature. If you control a Liliana planeswalker, each opponent also discards a card.
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Liliana's Triumph Discussion
2 months ago
Hey @Snake57! It's great to hear from ya!
I haven't been able to play too many games with the new cards that I'm testing, but this is what I think so far:
Darkwater Catacombs is great for paying for Yuriko's ninjutsu, but is awkward for casting 1 mana spells. Agadeem's Awakening Flip is an improvement and it plays very similarly to Sea Gate Restoration Flip.
Walker of Secret Ways was helpful because I got to look at my opponents' hands and adjust my plan accordingly. But it got easily shut down by Yawgmoth, Thran Physician and Engineered Plague . In these scenarios, Azra Smokeshaper would have been practically unaffected, so I'm unsure about this swap.
Commandeer countered a game-winning Victimize when I was tapped out, and hits hard when you flip it with Yuriko. Exiling 2 blue cards is a steep cost, but it's more helpful than Commit / Memory , which is pretty difficult to cast.
As expected, Snuff Out is a lot less powerful in my playgroup since black is our most played colour. Even so, it can usually hit one creature on the battlefield, which clears the way for Yuriko. The card that I had to cut to make room was Cover of Darkness . It tends to be a win-more card, in that it's good when my board state is good, but bad when my board state is bad. So far I think that snuff out deserves the spot more.
There are also a few cards that I plan on trying out later on:
Gingerbrute is a card I've always been on the fence about, but I've heard nothing but good things from other Yuriko players.
Merfolk Windrobber is a classic 1/1 flyer for 1, and can replace itself in the late game.
Street Wraith deals 5 damage when you flip it with Yuriko, then you can immediately cycle it for another card that's more useful. It fills the graveyard for delve spells like Temporal Trespass and Dig Through Time too.
Gitaxian Probe is a cedh staple, and banned in both modern and legacy. For only 2 life, you get to look at your opponents hand and it replaces itself. It also fills the graveyard for delve spells.
Dismember is a 1 mana removal spell that kills most creatures, and hits for 3 damage with Yuriko.
I hope that all made sense! Let me know if you have any questions, or if you've found any hidden gems for Yuriko!
2 months ago
I get the flexibility you're talking about in terms of Thespian's Stage in comparison. However ill keep that in mind when i comes to play testing when i get the ability to in the future.
Lotus Petal can be chained infinitely with the scrap trawler line thus another back up of infinite mana for Tergrid's Lantern . I don't like Bubbling Muck because of its symmetry as you've also noticed but did proxy in (until i can get my hands on one) the Jet Medallion
I like the idea of Blast Zone but can't justify the loss ill take as well since it effects the board
Syphon Mind was cut earlier because instead of a use once sorcery regardless of the "value" it accrues, Grim Haruspex is both more explosive in draw power and more easily recurable within the confines of both mono black, and the deck itself.
to note a conversation with some fellows from my play group however there will be a couple adjustments incoming and as follows,
the reasoning being, in an attempt to understand or prepare for the hypothetical weakness of the deck (aggro/token strategies) i've determined that adding some spot removal (lack of opponent having a choice) to accompany the sacrificial removal spells (opponent has the choice) as well as an additional boardwipe in case of "oh shit" moments that being said there is also the possibility that Grasp of Darkness may eventually be replaced by Executioner's Capsule due to it being both an artifact and recurable.
What are your thoughts?
2 months ago
Why: Scrap Trawler loop enabled with Myr Retriever and Junk Diver , also lowers curve overall and better overall synergy, potential win with Zulaport Cutthroat or Syr Konrad, the Grim , good looks Omniscience_is_life
Why: Profet93 you are correct, much better value
Why: you right Profet93
Why: mindslash isn't as efficient as id like to think it is, puts opponents creatures back in their graveyard (theoretically) and that works against Living Death
Why: Profet93, you clearly point out the why, there is no contention with your logic and rational
Why: Cuts curve, synergy with the trawler line, can easily produce more mana then any other rock in the deck. (potentially infinite???)
Profet93 Metalworker is just a really good way to ramp, acts as a rock for explosiveness. there are 21 total artifacts in the deck, so just above 20% of the deck feeds him, which is also why I included Vault of Whispers unless you think Darksteel Citadel would serve better in this slot
2 months ago
Beacon of Unrest works as decent, reuseable utility
Add fetches for crucible of worlds and rings
Why not add a Sensei's Divining Top , since you already have ring + basalt, it will let you draw your entire deck. It's also good on it's own, moreover, its better with fetches
Thespian's Stage > Cabal stronghold - You don't run enough basics, nor is stronghold easy to activate. Copying coffers or an opposing utility land such as cradle, field of the dead or your own deserted temple. The utility shouldn't be overlooked
Since you're playing deathcloud, you should consider Infernal Darkness and/or Contamination - Bitterblossom/trading post + Contamination = Fun. Infernal darkness, like contamination, is counter bait and at the very least stalls you a turn or 2. Do not that contamination shuts off coffers (as well as opposing cradles, etc...) while infernal darkness does not
Imp's Mischief - Protect your commander by redirecting targeted removal as well as targeted draw, targeted extra turns, etc...
Liliana's Triumph > IMO Go for the throat - Hits multiple opponents with a sacrifice clause and you also have 2 liliana's!
Another idea can be adding Necropotence to help break parity. A sadistic idea, would be adding Possessed Portal . Do note it says each end step, combined with necro, you will win if they have no answers and cannot kill you
Diabolic Revelation - Highly underrated. X=7 is ok. X=8 is good. X=9+ is great. Given you have all this ramp through artifacts and coffers, this should not be overlooked
Potential Cuts - Unearth, Dreamstone and Sheoldred, the former doesnt seem impactful enough while the latter 2 are too costly for what it does
Do you have enough artifacts for Metalworker? What is the point of vault of whispers?
2 months ago
Mind Stone > Extraplanar Lens - As you don't seem to have much ramp and lens is risky
Liliana's Triumph > Cruel edict, although it doesn't matter too much.
Can you explain the purpose of Sanctum of Eternity to me? My understanding is that its to be used with commanders that have ETB effects which can be abused. Is the purpose of this to bring your commander back to your hand if they try to remove her in response to a discard/sac spell?
I JUST noticed you have Necro + Possessed Portal <3
No Mercy > Koskun Falls ?
3 months ago
To be fair, I never said I was good at stax, only like it and trying to overcome a lock. Speaking of locks, I notice your contamination bitterblossom lock. Have you thought of adding additional redundancy in the form of Infernal Darkness ? It doesn't need a token unlike contamination.
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - If you got $ and want to improve coffers
snow covered swamps can allow you to swap mutilate for Dead of Winter for slightly more efficiency given you aren't running urborg to fuel mutilate.
Vona's Hunger or Liliana's Triumph - How often do you find yourself "ascending?"
Mind Twist - Only hits one opponent, but early ramp into this can be devastating. Also works as countermagic bait. for X on 1-2.
Yawgmoth's Will - I'm assuming you would have added chains and this given budget, what's the budget per card?
Cabal Stronghold for a stax deck seems slow, I would swap in a Blast Zone (to deal with artifact and enchantments) or another utility land such as deserted temple or thespian's stage to utilize coffers, copy opposing utility lands, or politic opponents.
3 months ago
In my very limited experience, I found that cards like Necrogen Mists and Bottomless Pit felt more effective than Hymn, especially in games where I only got 1 (or could only keep 1 out) Rack, and the opponent could stabilize eventually. 1 of those makes it impossible to stabilize for most decks, and a 2nd will turn your Racks on in a turn or 2. I think if you run enough Racks, longer games aren't an issue, but at 8, I worry some will end up stretched out.
Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage isn't a terrible card in a deck like this, offering both discard and an additional Rack, if a bad one. Another odd card that can work is Augur of Skulls , a surprisingly handy chump blocker, and can sac to cost the opponent 2 cards if you don't need him, for only 2 mana, which is hilariously better than Mind Rot at least.
If you want a higher budget target, Liliana of the Veil is straight up amazing in a deck like this, arguably the best card ever printed for a deck like this. I'd run it over Mind Twist in a heartbeat, and that's banned for some reason. Running more Lilianas enables you to benefit fully from Liliana's Triumph , a painfully useful card vs decks running creatures, and along with a Lil is likely going to clear their board.
I don't think you really need to change your deck, just wanted to bring some things to your attention. Good work!
4 months ago
Amazing deck! Gonna try it out asap :)