Each opponent loses X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
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Exsanguinate occurrence in decks from the last year
4 hours ago
My Haakon list was fairly slow, but when it worked it was hard to interrupt. My playgroup learned very quickly how to stop it and he became a target. I had him for a little bit before selling 12 EDH decks (including Haakon) because I was in college at the time and keeping up with 15+ decks was too time consuming and too much money. I always meant to come back to him and now is the time.
Because I have been out of the Magic scene, I have been trying to research new cards and potential combos. When I found Netherborn Altar I knew I wanted to get back to Haakon since there is more than one way to get him out now. I remembered your deck so I came back to check it out. Still love it. Thanks for answering all of my questions. I've been debating on starting from scratch which is why I asked so many. A couple more for you before I start rebuilding or tweaking.
Viscera Seer? Do you have enough sac outlets?
What do you do in the event of early gravehate?
Thanks for answering these again, man. Great to talk to someone who plays one of my favorite commanders/cards in all of Magic.
I definitely understand trying to find non-english version of cards. One of my pioneer decks I have been trying to get Japanese foils but Covid makes that so damn difficult.
1 week ago
Commander Legends review for Lord Windgrace and Thoughts
Missed out on looking at these cards the first time so another look at cards that can synergise with this deck or with more general Lord Windgrace decks after actually testing them out.
This card looks like it may just slot right in but I would caution against just jamming this in. It is very powerful to be able to just pick out ten lands from the library and slam them on the battlefield, no sacrificing or any real downside but there are a couple of issues to consider:
- The card is 9 mana, and requires triple green. This is not difficult to do with mana fixing but because the lands enter tapped from Reshape the Earth and the spell is sorcery speed, this is pretty much your entire turn. This means that you better be planning to win the game with this spell on the turn you play it because your green mana will be heavily depleted when you do. There are pretty much two options: Field of the Dead or Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle for ETB triggers, but this can also be a trap. If you fetch Vesuva with this ability, you have to have one of the above lands already on the battlefield. This is because when Vesuva enters the battlefield at the same time as another land, due to timing it only checks land already on the battlefield. There is a similar issue with Thespian Stage as when the land enters...it has already had its ETB. This means that you can't just fetch Field of the Dead or Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle along with the two copy lands from the library and try to stack the triggers, it just doesn't work. This card just can't immediately win you the game in most circumstances. You could look at Dread Presence dealing a good 20 damage or getting a sweet Valakut Exploration turn, but you can't just straight up 40 someone unless you already have a very specific boardstate. I just don't think this card is worth including in this archetype.
I was surprisingly up on this card when it was first spoiled because of the Glacial Chasm synergy (never take combat damage, never lose the Monarchy). Now on top of being the eternal Monarch, you get the benefit of all your permanents being hexproof, which includes your land. Now you have protection against opponents removing your key lands! The issue is that it is still a creature body, doesn't really have any land-synergistic abilities and is 7 mana. I dropped Avenger of Zendikar for being expensive to play, and this just draws you a card at end step, not terrible, but not the most exciting thing to ever happen. Maybe this card is just too 'win more' to be an inclusion, but it has a sweet interaction with this deck.
Honestly not terrible but not exciting either. The key thing is that it doesn't untap your lands, and there's no real benefit for them being creatures, if you have a Glacial Chasm out they can't even attack...and they're 1/1s so you need something to buff them up before they attack. That's several steps more complicated than dumping a Torment of Hailfire or Exsanguinate on the board.
Now I'm usually very up on enchantments in commander. They're usually (in my experience) more difficult to interact with compared to artifacts. This is a way to just ramp or cheat out creatures. If you're planning of dumping big creatures on the board: this is a great card if you're running Glacial Chasm because you will never stop being the monarch, but it's an upkeep trigger. In this particular deck I don't think it has enough value to justify cutting another card to fit it in, it's just too slow.
Interesting value engine: play a land, you get to cheat in another land. Would/should you pay 6 mana for this? Well only if you have a bunch of lands in hand, which is generally not where this deck wants to be (usually they should be being discarded so you pull them back onto the battlefield). Any ramp potential is stymied by the mana cost. Powerful effect, just doesn't seem to quite work in this deck.
Not bad: find forest, put on battlefield, solid cheap ramp, consider adding it in if you have the space. There aren't that many great forests, so this isn't as much of a utility spell tutor, just plain ramp.
1 week ago
Great to hear, OJSTheJuice.
So looking over how Field of the Dead generally plays from experience:
This deck as it stands is more like a land toolbox deck that ramps to just try and cast a big Torment of Hailfire, honestly that's the gameplan 99% of the time. So you won't usually be fetching out Field of the Dead until it's necessary as it enters tapped and taps for colourless mana, so its not a good ramping card and fixes nothing colour-wise. You also can't attack while Glacial Chasm is out, which is your main way to just pretty much phase out of until you ramp into big mana with Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, so its offensive capacity is somewhat hindered if you're turtling. Honestly by the mid game you should have seven different land names because with the fetch/land tutor mix unless you get rather unlucky and end up with a whole bunch of basics with no fetches, snow lands wouldn't really make that much of a difference. If you have have access to fetches, you can fetch shocks or cycle lands (still waiting for triomes in jund, one day...). So the only case where this would really affect anything is where you have maybe 7-9 lands and some duplicate basics. Given that maybe half the deck is lands, there are multiple search and graveyard recursion strategies, I think that this is the only scenario you could lose out.
Looking at Field of the Dead, the best setup you could have would be something like Vesuva + Thespian Stage copying Field of the Dead with a Ramunap Excavator and Azusa, Lost but Seeking plus Lord Windgrace. Now best case scenario this might be something like 5 land drops over 3 to that's 15 zombies: 30 power isn't bad at all (even assuming you get fetches, you might squeeze an extra 2 or 3 drops before you start running low on fetchable sources), but it shouldn't really be the focus of what you're doing. Field of the Dead is a good way to throw up blockers, not really be offensive unless you have no other options (either because of counterspells or because you milled both Torment and Exsanguinate with no Bala Ged Recovery Flip to get them back). The vulnerability in this deck is that it has surprisingly few ways to get back things that aren't land.
How I've used Field of the Dead in the past is for instant-speed blockers, because it's not something a lot of players can really interact with. It's a good way to defend Lord Windgrace from an attack (as he's not protected by Glacial Chasm). It's value should be largely incidental to what you are already doing (ramping), not the focus unless it is one of your last remaining strategies (only just above Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle).
1 week ago
Mastermind's Acquisition Is a great card to combo with Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed. You can make a 15 card board and put some cards in to help against certain decks that gives chainer some issues (blue white control--Nevi's Disc, Hero's Downfall and the like, Sword of Sinew and Steel, etc.) it allows you to run 15 extra cards without having them eat up space in your deck.
Thought-Knot Seer is great for some recurring hand hate
Flesh-Eater Imp is also a fun sac outlet and an alternative win con.
Volrath's Stronghold is good for saving some of your cards from graveyard removal and I have been debating Phyrexian Reclamation and or Tortured Existence. Fortunately I have not seen too many EDH decks with a lot of dedicated grave hate.
Disciple of Bolas is also an all star card, he keeps chainer going like you wouldn't believe
3 weeks ago
A person after my own heart -- 33 lands! Best number.
Beyond that, I feel like you might need some more mana sinks so you don't take as much damage, like more Exsanguinate/Torment of Hailfire/Earthquake/Pestilence or some actual sinks like ... (thinking) ... I dunno, Moonveil Dragon or something. Just might be something to consider, but whatever it is, you'd probably want it to be a mana-to-damage kind of a trade.
3 weeks ago
Hey, good start, but without an infinite combo you should forget about trying to get to power level 8 because 8+ level decks win with infinite combos. Without an infinite combo then power level 6-7 is the highest level you should go for. Not having black's powerful tutors or Fetch lands are other reasons the power level isn't higher. With DFC you only count the front side of the card in the decklist, the backside is not added. For example Shatterskull Smashing Flip goes in the decklist, but Shatterskull, the Hammer Pass doesn't.
My advice is if you want to make a good Rakdos Toggo deck than build around Rocks. Take more advantage of Rocks to get more value out of them. Cranial Plating fueled by Rocks combos with Chandra's Ignition and Fling effects to kill your opponents with burn. Inspiring Statuary and Rocks can make a lot of ramp for Comet Storm or Exsanguinate.
- Reckless Fireweaver
- Ghirapur AEther Grid
- Quicksmith Genius
- Valduk, Keeper of the Flame
- Hammer of Nazahn
- Fabled Passage
- Jund Panorama
- Grixis Panorama
- Guildless Commons
- Great Furnace
- Vault of Whispers
Some other cards to consider adding:
- Red Elemental Blast
- Chandra, Torch of Defiance
- Valakut Exploration
- Heartless Hidetsugu
- Torbran, Thane of Red Fell
- Price of Progress
Good luck with you deck.
1 month ago
I’m fairly new to the game and new to edh, my apologizes if I’m not in the right section.
I’m currently looking at the precons and there’s a few I’d like to try but right now I think that getting just one is probably smarter in case I end up not liking the format.
In all the precon I looked at, these are the one that my lgs still have. I’m gonna list them one by one with a quick reason why I’m interested by them.
Commander - Devour for Power - The Mimeoplasm: I do like the idea of dumping stuff in my graveyard to basically make my commander into whatever I need for a particular situation, I recently bought a small collection with a Sheoldred, Whispering One, Mortivore, Golgari Grave-Troll, Lhurgoyf and Hermit Druid.
Commander - Political Puppet - Zedruu the Greathearted: The idea of casting curses on my opponents and giving them creatures to screw them over seems terribly funny and diabolical. Switching my Steel Golem for Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre would be a win for me even if I end up losing the game.
Commander 2015 - Call the Spirits - Daxos the Returned: Building an enchantment deck seemed fun and I also have cards like Sorin Markov with his -3 and cards line Debt to the Deathless or Exsanguinate in my collection for alternative way of winning the game.
Commander 2015 - Seize Control - Mizzix of the Izmagnus: It’s probably not the main goal of the deck but casting instant and sorcery with Talrand, Sky Summoner or Murmuring Mystic and having Crackling Drake on the board to swoop in with a bunch of flying drakes and birds on the board made me laugh.
Commander 2015 - Swell the Host - Ezuri, Claw of Progress: Ezuri just looked so badass and flooding the bord with a bunch of 2 and 1 power creatures and adding stuff like Craterhoof Behemoth and Beastmaster Ascension or using Triumph of the Hordes or even buffing them up with Ezuri + some proliferate triggers looked like sometimes that could be very scary for the table.
Sorry for the long post but There’s so many choices that I got lost and confused on what could be better a first deck.
Thanks for the help.
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1 month ago
I don't know if Ashnod's Altar is your best bet for additional ramp. I don't know if you are creating token at enough of a pace to make it worth it and I don't see much of another benefit to sacking your stuff. I still think Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers would be the best answer, but they sure aren't budget includes. On a budget, Cabal Stronghold can do nice work in 2 color or under decks in black. Another sometimes overlooked option is Black Market. Perhaps Ashnod's Altar was from a desire to sac what you have onboard to dump into your Exsanguinate or Debt to the Deathless. Knowing the liklihood you have a useful enough board state in any given game, I think you can probably find more utility out there as Ashnod's Altar will be dead in your hand or on board too often.