Creature — Sliver
All Slivers have ", Sacrifice this permanent: Destroy target permanent."
|Want (1)||Nocturnal Outcast|
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|Premium Deck Series: Slivers (PDS)||Uncommon|
|Planar Chaos (PLC)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Necrotic Sliver Discussion
2 months ago
I won a few tournaments with a similar deck, but it was more control oriented. I'm not posting my complete build online, but here's a few ideas :
Universal Automaton allows so many recursive interaction with Emry, Lurker of the Loch. I opted for other slivers, such as Mindlash Sliver, Necrotic Sliver and Harmonic Sliver. Scroll of Avacyn and Scroll of Griselbrand suddenly become very cost efficient and the 2nd one can create good locks with instant speed discard (hello Teferi, Time Raveler).
Even Lurrus in the main deck can be a good option if you play that way. And you know what? You could have a complete 15 card sideboard swap for both kind of plays, either aggro or control :)
4 months ago
I really dig the Changeling Dragon theme. I've seen this deck, it was fun to watch, and it's neat to see the insides. Do your 1 and 2-drop changelings make a difference? How well have the planeswalkers worked out?
Cards to consider (14): Kindred Dominance, Heirloom Blade, Omnath, Locus of Rage, Blood Tribute, Forerunner of the Legion, Metallic Mimic, Dregscape Sliver, Harmonic Sliver, Necrotic Sliver, and Kindred Discovery. Also with over 40 creatures having more effects that trigger with creatures entering the battle field seem useful: Aura Shards, Cathars' Crusade, Guardian Project, Soul of the Harvest, and Chulane, Teller of Tales.
I don't personally like creatures that reduce costs. I'd rather play a mana dork, or rock. How often do you empty your hand? Would wheel spells be useful? I personally like Lifecrafter's Bestiary. You currently have 16 shapeshifters (w/o Crib Swap, Shields of Velis Vel). I don't know how much you want to play with that number, but I wonder how good some of the cards are (Changeling Outcast, Fire-Belly Changeling, Impostor of the Sixth Pride, Mothdust Changeling, Woodland Changeling).
4 months ago
then of course add that in with Necrotic Sliver and you can wipe everyones board and you have the only board presence
and with all that bouncing and regenerating you can use Lavabelly Sliver to end it
4 months ago
5 months ago
Hey there! Thank you so much for your feedback Fun fact: not so long ago you wrote such a good comment like this on my friends angel tribal deck mono white indestructeble plays . I was green with envy over the awesome feedback he got, you wouldnt believe my face when i saw your name in my inbox :D
I have noticed the new lands coming in Ikoria and you bet i am excited for'em!!!
Here are some notes on why i have speccific cards and why not. Harmonic sliver: I got in in a mystery booster in foil and thought it would be nice to have in there Belbe's portal: I also got this one in a mystery booster and thought i'd keep it in a sideboard if i ever wanted to get it Quicksilver portal also look very nice if i can get it :) Hive stirrings: I put it in mostly because i thought it could help me out early and i also thought: Hey, look at that! A sliver sorcery!
The reason i havent used green for any mana ramp is simply because i dont know if i would need it yet. I have never played a deck with this many mana rocks and lands and i have never played a 5 colored deck either. I thought that with so many lands and so many mana rocks i might survive.
My friend has a sliver deck that tries to do it all at the same time, that is why i've limited my slivers to slightly offensive ones and those who help me go infinite or work with the infinity combo, excluding Sliver Hivelord, who is there for the lolz. I intentionally chose not to include The First Sliver and Sliver Overlord.
Cards that i use for the infinity combo or that benefits from it: Use for infity : Basal Sliver, Mana Echoes, Intruder Alarm Benefit for infinity: Darkheart Sliver, Dormant Sliver, Lavabelly Sliver, Necrotic Sliver, Descendants' Path
What i might change when it comes to giving my commander more resiliance or possibly adding Swiftfoot Boots or Lightning Greaves i dont think that's a bad idea at all. If i remove Hive Stirrings and possibly another of the guild mana rocks i could get in Coalition Relic
If you were me, what would you remove in favor of what you've said earlier?
and also, im not so worried about Cyclonic Rift no one in our playgroup can afford it. I know this comes a little late but this deck is supposed to be my "High budgett deck". We usually dont play with so expensive decks in my playgroup, but i wanted to make one regardless, i will no doubt get to play it regardless. at our LGS or in the playgroup :)
Once again, thank you so much for the time you've spent to give me feedback. I appreciate it so very much. Stay Safe!
5 months ago
Editing the deck a bit, let me know what you think:
6 months ago
Starting from the Premium Deck is a pretty good place to begin crafting slivers and it's what I did myself and have been playing slivers for a number of years now.
Now for quite a lot of suggestions and thoughts that I hope will be helpful for you
You really don't need Mana Reflection in slivers or most other decks for that matter. It's really a "win more" kind of card and if you're doing well enough that you have the 6 mana to burn on it you're probably better off just dumping more slivers into play or tutoring for slivers that will allow you to win the game with your Sliver Overlord. If you're using it to go infinite and win with Sliver Queen then your Mana Echoes will provide the same effect for that combo but either of the 4-cost token doublers can also work. Anointed Procession Parallel Lives
You also don't really need bombs like Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, when you can spend less mana on more creatures that generate more value, putting 11 mana into a single creature will feel kind of bad. Also, a 10/10 among a board of 20/20 unblockable, vigilant, double striking, lifelink, flying, deathtouch, trample, etc. creatures isn't going to provide much of a bonus, it actually ends up being less of a threat than the rest of your board. Plus, if it gets countered, you’re down 11 mana whereas if somebody counters a sliver then you’re down like 2-4 mana and can still play more slivers.
Mycosynth Lattice opens up your entire board to artifact removal (including your lands) you may want to reconsider this include as it doesn't really provide any benefit to you for all the risk that comes with it.
Sensei's Divining Top may not be as useful in a deck where you have as many tutors as you do and your commander can tutor all your value pieces since you’ll probably be shuffling your deck a lot.
Amulet of Vigor doesn’t actually do that much for you, out of all your permanents there is only one that always enters tapped, Vesuva. With the number of shock and check lands you run, you probably do not need this and can use this slot for something else. (I get that it also works with Cryptic Gateway but without a source for card draw, you’ll run out of slivers to play quite quickly anyway)
Crystalline Sliver turns off any and all "target sliver" abilities like Crypt Sliver and Magma Sliver (You also won’t be able to steal things with Overlord). If you find yourself subject to frequent spot removal and need to bring Crystalline out often to protect your Slivers you can at least keep the regenerate ability with Clot Sliver or Sedge Sliver
Harmonic Sliver can potentially ruin your infinite Token Queen combo as the pieces that enable that combo are all artifacts/enchantments and this sliver’s ETB is not a ‘may’ ability. You must destroy something if there is a legal target on the board so you would end up destroying your Training Grounds, Mana Echoes, etc. If you still want this ability I would recommend swapping this with Aura Shards as it is the same ability with the same trigger but it is a ‘may’ ability and you can choose not to destroy something.
Hibernation Sliver is one of the best slivers for avoiding removal. Paying 2 life to protect any sliver from being destroyed, exiled, stolen, etc. is very useful
Dormant Sliver It’s fairly easy to dump your hand when playing slivers but this leaves you with an empty hand and not a whole lot of options. Very good for keeping your hand full of slivers to play. Defender can be a problem but who says you have to attack to win with slivers ;)
Screeching Sliver alternate win, tack this onto infinite sliver tokens combo from the Queen to mill out your opponents. Good if locked out of attacking for some reason
Lavabelly Sliver another non-combat win with Queen combo
Homing Sliver another way to tutor for any sliver you need besides Overlord’s ability
Mesmeric Sliver only card with Fateseal in the game, great for controlling your opponent’s next draw. Force them to only draw lands or maybe give them no lands at all.
Necrotic Sliver having spot removal for any permanent on every single one of your creatures is terrifying a very valuable. Strongly recommend this as an include.
Shadow Sliver I have never encountered anyone playing creatures with Shadow in EDH in all my years of play. This most certainly will let you get through and hit face to win a game, just make sure you kill all your opponents or get rid of it after combat as it leaves you with no blockers
Virulent Sliver I know there are mixed feelings about poison counters in the magic community but hey you get 2 counters on someone with double strike creatures.
Fun and Useful Tribal Cards for Slivers
None of these are particularly pertinent includes and some came with the Premium Deck, but these are just some Tribal cards that I have used over time while playing with slivers. Some I still use and some I do not.
Kindred Summons, Wild Pair, Herald's Horn, Coat of Arms, Kindred Discovery, Descendants' Path, Patriarch's Bidding, Kindred Charge, Vanquisher's Banner, Distant Melody, Kindred Dominance, Living Death, Primal Surge, Harsh Mercy, Door of Destinies
Slivers can be a lot of fun to play but keep in mind that they are very aggressive and can draw a lot of hate from your opponents. Players that have experienced playing against slivers are likely to counter your high-value creatures like Gemhide or Queen and will try keeping your board as small as possible since slivers win by swarming and overwhelming your opponents. I have found that this can be mitigated somewhat by changing your commander since slivers have 3 good options. Sliver Overlord, Sliver Queen, and The First Sliver.
Overlord and Queen are quite similar as they both conducive to trying to hit Queen’s infinite combo as quickly as possible but I have found that Queen tends to make people more nervous than Overlord does since you can create a wide board very quickly with her. Not only that but if you are relatively uninterrupted then silvers can combo out relatively consistently by turn 4 or 5 (depending on how lucky you get). If you like a combo victory, then that’s great, but the combo has very little variance and I personally got bored of it after playing it like that for so long.
Using The First Sliver as your commander is a whole lot less consistent if you’re going for combo but overall I’ve found it to be significantly more fun to play as I can sometimes rip 3-4 slivers for free off the top of my deck. The win is the same with overrunning your opponents but not using an infinite combo every time was very refreshing.
Hopefully you find some of this helpful, slivers are my all-time favorite tribe in mtg and it was great to see them get some love in Modern Horizons.
7 months ago
Check out my Alesha deck for some cool ideas, it’s only expensive for the mana base and tutor package. I’ve dialed it in where I like it and hopefully it will help others. Mirror Entity is a must have for a swarm strategy. Best lord ever! You need the two new talismans Talisman of Hierarchy and Talisman of Dominance you also need the Arcane Signet that came out. Really helps and is better than the Mardu banner. I always loved discarding my hand to Thought Gorger then reanimating Disciple of Bolas to draw a ton of cards. Key to the City is a perfect fit for Alesha. Cathartic Reunion , Tormenting Voice, and Thrill of Possibility are excellent filtering while hopefully putting cool stuff in the graveyard.
Goldnight Commander is a powerhouse when you reanimate a token maker guy.
I’ve tried to keep these suggestions budget friendly, hopefull they help you enjoy your Alesha deck. I love mine!