Creature — Sliver
All Slivers have ", Sacrifice this permanent: Destroy target permanent."
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Necrotic Sliver occurrence in decks from the last year
Necrotic Sliver Discussion
1 week ago
For mana curve you may want to consider enchantments that have lands produce more than 1 mana at a time. This would include, but not be limited to, Fertile Ground , Trace of Abundance and Utopia Sprawl . You won't have to wait for time counters to all disappear before deploying them to the battlefield. The mana base will also be more flexible.
Have you considered adding any combination Assault Formation , Doran, the Siege Tower (in case Harmonic Sliver backfires on you) and High Alert ? With them on the battlefield you can then sacrifice Dormant Sliver only if you have to. This will also allow for roughly the same combo with Morophon as you would with Realmwalker and Morophon.
If you choose to do this I would then recommend Teferi's Ageless Insight to boost your card draw.
3 weeks ago
Ok I'm pitching Ramosian Sergeant again - you have 11 changelings this can fetch (& 12 with the Guardian Gladewalker ), so for a reasonable portion of the game this will be a cheaper Birthing Boughs that gets some additional utility with fetching actually good changelings like Masked Vandal or Unsettled Mariner .
And IMO Necrotic Sliver / General Kudro of Drannith / Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves are the worst lords atm, since they're gonna get some of your changelings killed, which is at odds with all the "get as many changelings in play as possible" cards. Your recursion is not amazing either.
3 weeks ago
Hey, good version of Overlord on a budget.
- Cinder Glade --> Rugged Highlands
- Smoldering Marsh --> Bloodfell Caves
- Prairie Stream --> Wind-Scarred Crag
- Sunken Hollow --> Gateway Plaza
By adding the Battle lands then Farseek is two drop land ramp spell that can search for a dual land and it could replace Circuitous Route . Playing Tri lands with Bounce lands can be problematic when having to bounce a Tri land. Consider playing only the Tri lands and cutting the Bounce lands? Some budget Pain lands could replace the Bounce lands.
- Caves of Koilos --> Orzhov Basilica
- Shivan Reef --> Izzet Boilerworks
- Battlefield Forge --> Boros Garrison
These potential land upgrades can speed up game play since increasing the amount of lands that can ETB untapped and cutting ones that always ETB tapped. Crop Rotation is a budget land tutor that get any land and put it onto the battlefield and it's helpful when playing lots of basic lands. Faeburrow Elder is powerful in five color decks with so many possibilities from Slivers of having different colored permanents. Elder could replace Firemind Vessel .
Some other budget upgrades to consider:
- Necrotic Sliver ($0.25) --> Mortify
- Winged Sliver --> Shadow Sliver
- Dormant Sliver ($0.25) or Beast Whisperer --> First Sliver's Chosen
- Realmwalker --> Telekinetic Sliver
- Pact of the Serpent --> Prophetic Prism
- Preordain --> Ponder
- Victimize --> Return from Extinction
Shadow Sliver can be a problem not being able to block with Slivers. Dormant Sliver is repeatable draw, but Slivers can't attack until you remove it. Beast Whisperer can be a alternative to Dormant if not being able to attack is something you don't want to worry about. Preordain with scry 2 before draw is better than Ponder and it's less than $1.
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
I've made some cuts!
Spells being considered that are being purchased soon; Necrotic Sliver , Root Sliver , Bloom Tender , Pulmonic Sliver , Spoils of Victory , Darksteel Mutation , Synapse Sliver , Magma Sliver , Intruder Alarm , Horned Sliver , and Amoeboid Changeling .
2 months ago
JeanYass, Thank you for your response. Whilst I can see yo reasoning, I must disagree on your analysis. Let me address the points you make:
Training Grounds - I indeed may only have a few targets for Training Grounds to have an impact on. However, one of those is my commander, Sliver Overlord, enabling me to tutor for any Sliver in my deck, for . Also is super good with Sliver Queen, again making each Slivery Baby only cost . Necrotic Sliver is again, gives me the ability to destroy any permanent for and a Sliver Sacrifice. Also, don't forget, Mirror Entity is also a "Sliver". Thats a reduction in that creatures activation straight away. Essentially, Training Grounds enables my deck to "fire off" easier.
Boardwipes - Firstly, boardwipes are kind of a staple of EDH. Sometimes, boardstates get away from you, and you have to reset. Also, with some of the combinations of my boardstates, the effects are way worse for opponents. Sliver Hivelord gives my creatures indestructable. If have a mana producers, such as Manaweft Sliver, Jokulhaups is not as destructive to myself as it is to my opponents, and will leave my enemies mana deprived etc. Blasphemous Act + Spiteful Sliver is a game ender, if I have managed to "go off" and tutor and play all the slivers in my deck (Using Manaweft Sliver/Gemhide Sliver + Intruder Alarm + A haste enabling Sliver) Spiteful Sliver's effect will happen and can kill players off.
The other stackable Slivers - I actually used to run the Slivers you mentioned in the your comment. As my deck mainly wins via combo, not so much combat (although it is perfectly capable of "turning sideways"), taking them out was the best option. the +1/+1 and +0/+1 are kind of incidental, and don't cause a massive swing in advantage. Leeching Sliver i always liked, but it is not super relevant to the deck.
Hope this gives you an explanation as to why I have what I have in my deck. Any questions, just ask
3 months ago
Gideon of the Trials is a very versatile card on its own but i had to swap it out because Runed Halo has no synergy with any planeswalkers. Runed Halo showed to be just too good to be swapped out. (It only struggles if you always play against new brew decks)
Skyclave Apparition is an option i'm testing at the moment (Works quite good). It would fit way better if it were an Angel or Human though (for Caverns and Deck flavor). You would have to swap out Wall of Omens for Charming Prince then for the additional interaction.
Linvala, Keeper of Silence I keep her in here because i have someone who plays Slivers in my playgroup with a value combo Dormant Sliver and later Necrotic Sliver. If she enters the battlefield, it's game. Lyra Dawnbringer is really nice but its ability need a lot of Angels on the battlefield. She works way better if the Angels are cheap, like 2 - 3 mana drops. I've not seen a non lifegain Angel that low except maybe Serra Avenger
Giver of Runes is insane and would be a great addition, because i cannot deal with Path to Exile myself. I tried it with Ranger-Captain of Eos a while ago but somehow the deck got slow i lost one match after the other. Not sure how i could include Giver of Runes at the moment. I have a Eight-and-a-Half-Tails Sideboard against control which you can fetch.
Emeria, Shattered Skyclave is a must include for this deck even if you cannot fetch it. Every white deck i own has it now. Ondu Skyruins is not really needed, i included it because i play a lot of multiplayer at the moment.
Secluded Steppe + Mistveil Plains gives Weathered Wayfarer the ability to tap and draw a card for 4 mana (Activating Mistveil Plains cost 1 mana. At least some card draw engine, you can try Arch of Orazca if you like it more. I like the land fetch ability more XD).
What i really need for this deck is 3 drop removal better than Oblivion Ring. Grasp of Fate is strictly better but not modern. Banisher Priest and Fiend Hunter die easily to removal. I hope some day a set will bring something printed on an Angel
Kind Regards -Drcfan
3 months ago
So, let's have a look at the type of things you may want.
Lands: So, I can't afford OG duals really, but have found that shocks and fetches, coupled with the battlebond lands have kind of served me well. Fetches can get pricey, but you by no mean need them all. Having 5 or 6 fetches, all the shock lands (10 to 15 bucks each) and then filling it out with something like the battlebond lands can really sort you out. Cavern of Souls is always good, and can see you have one. Basically, lands coming into play untapped are much better. Quicker access to all that slivery goodness. Personally I would look to change those 3 colour tap lands and things like Rupture Spire piece at a time.
Ramp: So, as we are running 5 colour, we want to ramp and rock efficiently to get our board set ASAP. Chromatic Lantern is good, but I would replace the Pillar of Origins with an Arcane Signet. Its just better and less restrictive. For spells, Farseek, Nature's Lore, Three Visits and Skyshroud Claim all enable you to get land type lands. This will let you get your Breeding Pool or Godless Shrine as it has that land type. This is why shock lands (and to a lesser extent triomes) are so much better. You can even get these with the fetchlands too. Luckily, we also have Gemhide Sliver and Manaweft Sliver to turn all our slivers into our own Birds of Paradise
Slivers: So this is a big list here lol. I'm not going to try and write them all lol. I will say that I would cut several of the ones you have though. I would drop Virulent Sliver and replace with a Triumph of the Hordes. Combat tricks are good. Most of the Megantic Sliver effects I would drop I'm favour of things like Door of Destinies. Crystalline Sliver is great to protect your board a bit. Diffusion Sliver I can't see being relevant in a game of edh, and would rather take interaction like Counterspell etc. I think pairing back the creatures to the key ones is really important. Will free up space for stuff like card draw and interaction. Shifting Sliver is basically unblockable. Defo a good one. Necrotic Sliver means each sliver becomes a Vindicate at the cost of 2 and a sacrifice. Synapse Sliver is good to keep your hand full.
Other cards of note:
So just some good cards to consider.
Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Kindred Discovery card draw is important, The Great Henge your commander makes this cost , Phyrexian Arena again, card draw. Wrath of God, Blasphemous Act or other destroy boardwipes. If your stuff is indestructible, all good. Yawgmoth's Will pricey, but such a good answer if you are boardwiped etc. Patriarch's Bidding you are likely to pay off better than most.
I think that's all I got for now. Please look at other decks with slivers as well to get a good idea of the stuff out there. Hope this is a good start of things to look at
4 months ago
lil_cheez thanks for dropping by Hive. Your suggestion seems pretty legit, but I have designed my deck in such a way that I am always trying to progress towards my win cons, whilst denying spells to my opponents using counterspells like Pact of Negation, Mana Drain and Voidslime. If the board gets to sketchy I can then also blow up the board with mass removal like Austere Command and Blasphemous Act and pinpoint with Necrotic Sliver. Also, with Crib Swap they get a "sliver token". Usually a token is not a big deal. A token with that many abilities can be something pretty scary.
Thanks for the upvote.
So, do you have or are you looking at building a sliver deck?