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Harmonic Sliver
Creature — Sliver
All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment."
Mortlocke on A Pimp Named Sliver Overlord
6 months ago
Yes, I'm aware that Zur the Enchanter gets around counter magic through his ability, but in my opinion that seems like an unnecessarily convoluted way to try and solve a problem. Slivers have access to all colors - why not just run your own counter magic? Or control/stax pieces like Conqueror's Flail?
I'm not trying to be a contrarion here but this - "In turn 3 u cast vampiric tutor searching for enchanment, turn 4 cast Zur, turn 5 attack zur and draw second enchanment to loop combo." Doesn't make alotta sense. On turn 4 you'd have the enchantment you intend to put into play in hand. Zur won't be able to target said Enchantment when he eventually attacks on turn 5. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here without you at least naming all the cards you intend to use for the implied combo.
So your analysis of 4 CMC slivers boils down to "their power / toughness is low, so therefore they are bad". Sure, if they were vanilla creatures sure I'd agree with you. BUT - reading the card explains the card. Say you have Magma Sliver and 3 other smaller slivers in play. With one attack you could deal 15 damage to a player. If another one of those slivers was Shifting Sliver, then that damage is unblockable. So you say that slivers are likely to be targeted for removal? Well if your opponents aren't brain dead then they absolutely should be targeting any of the previously mentioned. But again Slivers are in all 5 colors, so say it with me now: Run. Interaction. It stops your mass removal, or if you really wanna flex, run a commander staple like Teferi's Protection.
"Next things is what u do if some one play "Ghostly prison", "Moat" or "The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale" + "Winter Orb" or "Winter Orb" + "Static Orb" ?"
Harmonic Sliver. As for The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale - Beast Within. Ill repeat myself just the once - Interaction. As for my face, well...if you want we can play some games on Spelltable. Doubt you'd show. Also doubt you own any of the expensive cards you like to try to flex with.
But I digress, DoctorMunchiesPHD tell me more about your Intruder Alarm + Telekinetic Sliver combo. This is your page after all.
Doombeard1984 on Sliver swarm - cEDH
8 months ago
Hi there,
Saw your deck on the front page and thought I would have a peek. Lot of nice cards in the deck. I do have a couple questions/suggestions however:
Muscle Sliver and Sinew Sliver - How exactly are these treating you? I kind of feel that with your deck, you are operating on the game plan of reaching an infinite combo for your win, and not really a go wide strategy. In that case, Sedge Sliver and Sliver Legion are probably doing enough to give you a bump in creature size that Muscle Sliver and Sinew Sliver just don't seem to off much value to the deck.
As a Sliver player myself, I also question the need for colourless mana, or mana rocks that tap for only . I appreciate they help cast your non sliver creatures, but you have such a prevalence of Slivers in your deck, along with a strong mana base and rocks and dorks that tap for your colours, I question the neccessity to have such an amount of colourless mana generators. Personal choice on that one lol.
I also would question the lack of single target removal in the deck. Yes you have Necrotic Sliver and Harmonic Sliver, but Harmonic can be double edged sword as its a "Have to target something" trigger, so if you run out of opponents stuff, you are going for your own. And Necrotic is good yes, but if you need and you dont have it, you need to tutor it for between 1-3 mana, potentially then have to pay for it and then pay to activate it. Things like Utter End, Anguished Unmaking, or simple Swords to Plowshares, Assassin's Trophy or Path to Exile could prove very useful.
Anyway, just my take lol. Hope you are good, and feel free to pop over to my hive and have a look - Sliver Overlord - Predatory Super-Organisms
player61050 on Selesnya Slivers
1 year ago
Update no one asked for: It's been over a year since I've messed with this one, but it's still a fun deck to play and I've been tweaking it a bit more. Added in some more mana, including another copy of the Manaweft Sliver. Added in the Bonescythe Sliver and a playset of Hive Stirrings for even more bodies on the field, steering this even further into the aggro direction. I've streamlined the card draw options down to three Vanquisher's Banner. It's efficient enough when half the deck is slivers and it gives the anthem effect, although it sucks when you don't draw one as there isn't really any backup plan.
I sent the Harmonic Sliver to the sideboard and pulled Sidewinder Sliver and Lancer Sliver out entirely to make room for the new stuff. Lancer was redundant with the Bonescythe being added, and the extra mana added in now easily covers the extra cost. Added in the two hivelords and the legion to close things out which was something this deck was lacking. Considered a second Sliver Legion, but I'd rather not see the card at all than see it too early, plus it's expensive. My original budget for this deck flew out the window a while ago, but I gotta draw the line somewhere, lol. Plenty of mana available to play them despite being off color, so no worries there either.
Path to Exile is still a champ of a card, but I've relegated it to the sideboard for now. Hit first, remove later, or something. Still not entirely sure how to fill the rest of the sideboard. This was pretty casual when I first built the deck, but it's running smooth enough now that I could probably play this out without dying on turn 3, so it's probably time I dedicate some real thought to it.
YorkshireSamurai on There’s only one Sliver Overlord
1 year ago
Greetings good sir! Thank you for the idea.
Guardian Project is a very good suggestion. The reason I run Lifecrafter's Bestiary is for the scry as it works with things like Herald's Horn.
Rhystic Study (along with Guardian Project) are somethings I run in other decks so I'm keen to diversify. Black Market Connections also ramps with the treasure and makes shapeshifting Slivers so I do like it.
Obilterate is a card I've always had a affinity for so that's why it's in over another wrath effect. Plus it's foil and can't be countered.
Virulent Sliver is there for the incidental poison and also because I need cheap early Slivers to turn into mana dorks(same with Muscle Sliver).
Intruder Alarm is something a few people have suggested and may just have to be added. I keep Chromatic Lantern out (it was in before) because the mana base is already good and I don't like rocks that can be easily destroyed. Harmonic Sliver can be a double-edged sword.
Coat of Arms is something I've recently thought about taking out for sure. It stays because it came with the original box and is easy to cast. (Call it nostalgia).
Sedge Sliver is an excellent suggestion. I'll be making space for that (might be Coat of Arms tbh).
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll take them on board and go check out your deck.
Aiyoki on Sliver Overlord EDH
1 year ago
This is my Sliver Overlord EDH deck as of 8/29/2023.
Improvements or other Feedback about this deck that can help me improve success in competitive play is welcomed and appreciated!
Options for cheating out Sliver Overlord onto the battlefield ASAP would be best. Some commander decks I usually have to play against are:
Removal: Global & Targeted Options
- Damnation Destroys all creatures for only four mana and prevents them from regenerating!
- Supreme Verdict This one also destroys all creatures for only four mana! While it doesn't prevent regeneration, countermeasures like Counterspell won't work!
- Harsh Mercy Is a cheap global removal option that can keep all of our slivers safe while simultaneously wiping out most of our opponent's non-tribal creatures!
- Terminate A cheap targeted removal that prevents regeneration
- Swords to Plowshares A great targeted removal, perfect for eliminating an otherwise pesky creature that would keep coming back if just destroyed.
- Essence Scatter Targeted creature removal, before it even gets the chance to hit the battlefield >:D
- Aura Shards Play a creature, get a free targeted artifact or enchantment removal as a result! We use this enchantment instead of Harmonic Sliver because the sliver variant doesn't give us a choice in the matter and can end up forcing us to destroy our own artifacts and enchantments. We don't want that!
Graveyard Hate:
- Leyline of the Void. This enchantment exiles anything our opponents put into their graveyards and can even come up as a pregame play in your opening hand, making it an extremely efficient play against graveyard based commanders!
Mana Fixing:
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As long as you've got the green mana to spend Manaweft Sliver and Gemhide Sliver work wonderfully. If you've already got one of these babies on the board it's best to keep the other in reserve in case of a board wipe or targeted removal.
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The World Tree, and Chromatic Lantern both provide non-sliver options to fix mana colors.
Mana cost reduction:
- Herald's Horn costs only to play and also reduces the generic mana costs of all our slivers by . Save for the Legendary five slivers we're using here, basically every other sliver will cost 1 less to play with this thing on the battlefield!
- Morophon, the Boundless With slivers as the named creature type, when this this thing hits the battlefield it reduces the cost to play any sliver by ! It might be the most costly to get out but it's indispensable for certain combos this deck is capable of pulling off.
pkbabyboi on First Is The Best! (An EDH First Sliver Deck)
1 year ago
Can I suggest Harmonic Sliver instead of Aura Shards
Mortlocke on The Queen's Egg
2 years ago
Hey abierto,
Indeed it’s been awhile since you commented, glad to hear from you. Thank you for bringing these cards onto my radar, let’s discuss them - I can easily tell that Survival of the Fittest would dramatically change the way the deck plays – with Survival of the Fittest + Dregscape Sliver on the board, access to at least 3 mana, 1 creature in hand, and at least an additional I can combo out and win the game on that turn. The only drawbacks I can see here are the mana requirements coupled with the more than likely opponent interaction that would be coming my way. Given that Dregscape Sliver’s ability is only sorcery speed – that only solidifies my concern as A simple Bojuka Bog could wreck me If I do not populate my graveyard with care and proper timing. This makes me wish that Paradox Engine wasn’t banned – I really miss that card. The verdict is out on Survival of the Fittest, I want to like to this card but I can’t help but feel hesitant in including it (let alone the investment). I think I’ll maybe proxy it in and see where that takes me. Speaking which, check out this really awesome alter:
Survival of the Fittest Sliver Alter Show
Dregscape Sliver on the other hand I’m considering including. Maybe cutting Patriarch's Bidding, as I do not like the mana investment and the potential added bonus of assisting opponents. In the metas I play in there are a lot of tribal decks – I’m sitting across from at least one or two other tribal decks every game. I’m ordering a copy today, so thank you for mentioning that card again.
Hi Sneuxfox (death by Snu snu?),
Welcome to my deck page! Thank you for posting. I’ve always wanted to work Magma Sliver into this decklist, but I don’t think it would be a good fit – Magma lends itself toward a Sliver deck that compliments a more Aggro strategy where the goal is to hit a “critical mass” of creatures and abuse enough evasion keywords to get a single creature to knock an opponent out. First Sliver's Chosen would be an absolute must include alongside Magma Sliver, as it would solidify a Voltron strategy by stacking Exalted triggers alongside Magma’s ability. I definitely agree that the aforementioned can get out hand when you have just one Sliver be the target of multiple triggers.
I agree that it's criminal that Magma doesn't make it's way into alot of lists, maybe it's due to most decks wanting to lean into the Mid-range Sliver tool box? Or maybe it's because the deck would need to be more Voltron centric? I decided to throw together a quick decklist as an example of what I think the average deck running Magma Sliver would look like:
Budget Aggro Sliver Decklist Show
What're your thoughts on the list, Sneuxfox ?
multimedia on
2 years ago
Hey, the CQ decklist is missing Cloudshredder Sliver, who's one of the best budget Slivers especially when Hivelord is Commander. It's missing Harmonic Sliver, who's excellent repeatable removal in multiplayer Commander. Tempered Sliver is good with Hivelord as Commander since it can make him bigger with counters. Blasphemous Act wrecks opponents creatures when Hivelord is Commander, consistently for one mana. Swiftfoot Boots gives Hivelord extra protection, combining indestructible and hexproof makes it very difficult for opponents to remove Hivelord.
- Cloudshredder Sliver --> Muscle Sliver
- Harmonic Sliver --> Steelform Sliver
- Tempered Sliver --> Watcher Sliver
- Swiftfoot Boots --> Quilled Sliver
- Blasphemous Act --> Fumigate
Sol Ring is less price than Wayfarer's Bauble and much better ramp. Arcane Signet, Fellwar Stone and Commander's Sphere are budget five color mana rocks.
- Sol Ring --> Wayfarer's Bauble
- Arcane Signet --> Sphere of the Suns
- Fellwar Stone --> Armillary Sphere
- Commander's Sphere --> Pillar of Origins
The manabases in all CQ decklists are an afterthought, no Command Tower, they're terrible especially with five colors. Command Tower, Exotic Orchard, Unclaimed Territory, Path of Ancestry are all budget lands for five colors with Slivers. The five Tango lands: Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, Prairie Stream, Sunken Hollow, Smoldering Marsh are budget and nice when playing 15+ basic lands. The Tango lands help with color fixing and make Farseek, Mountain Valley and Rocky Tar Pit better since they can search for one of them.
- Command Tower --> Warped Landscape
- Exotic Orchard --> Blighted Woodland
- Unclaimed Territory --> Jund Panorama
- Path of Ancestry --> Grixis Panorama
- Cinder Glade --> 1x Forest
- Canopy Vista --> 1x Plains
- Prairie Stream --> 1x Plains
- Sunken Hollow --> 1x Forest
Good luck with the upgrading.