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Exile up to four cards from target player's graveyard
Transmute (, Discard this card: Search your library for a card with the same converted mana cost as this card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library. Play only as a sorcery.)
Shred Memory Discussion
1 day ago
Ooo almost creatureless! I would actually swap out Clever Impersonator for Proteus Staff . With Proteus Staff and no creatures in deck, you can target your general.. then your general comes right back BUT the staff lets you rearrange your library in an order of your choosing! Not only that, but recycling your general like this allows you to cast an additional spell from grave.
Also a heads up, you can't retrieve exiled cards with Mastermind's Acquisition (exiled cards are still considered "in the game"). It's essentially a Diabolic Tutor in EDH, unless your friends are cool with you having a sideboard.
1 month ago
Shred Memory could possibly replace Faithless Looting . Shreds guarantee that you'll get your Waste Not. Lootings reduce your hand size by 1 (they don't replace themselves) and tend to weaken your draw power with Dark Deals. They also mill you faster. Mid to late game, you can use Shreds to fetch Liliana's Caress . Seething Song might be an interesting alternative to Manaforge Cinder . It would still help with the red mana issue, while also creating more opportunity to cast Reforge the Soul in the early game.
1 month ago
I think you might be misinformed as to what "Tron" means in MTG slang. In MTG, Tron refers to the three Urza lands ( Urza's Power Plant , Urza's Mine , & Urza's Tower . Assembling Tron means getting one of each lands down, which provides a huge colorless mana base.
This deck here is what is known as "Cheerios." (because of all the O's in zero-drop artifacts) Usually, it makes extra use out of playing so many zero-drops by incorporating a card with Storm, like Grapeshot .
Mastermind's Acquisition is arguably better then Diabolic Tutor, but at the same CMC, it's not faster. You could use Shred Memory for it's Transmute, which would shave 1 CMC off the casting cost of a tutor, but it will only tutor 2 CMC spells. You could also opt for simple draw card like Sign in Blood . Temple of Silence might also work, especially considering how few 1 drops you've got.
Some sort of protection for your creatures might be useful, as they're pretty essential and you have very few. Faith's Shield is my personal favorite because of its broad "target permanent" language, and its Fateful Hour added applications. There are plenty of other options with white, though. Gods Willing , Brave the Elements , Apostle's Blessing , etc. Something like Noxious Revival would also work.
I'd suggest 1x Buried Ruin in the mainboard.
1 month ago
Konrad is likely going to be a great commander in PDH (maybe even one of the best!). I really like your list. I would build it almost the same way.
Bitter Revelation is a good card for stocking your hand and graveyard.
Shred Memory has a lot of good applications in your deck.
I am not a fan of Prowling Pangolin. Vicious Rumors and Rakshasa's Secret also seem pretty weak. I am also not sure if running that much ramp is really necessary, especially the colorless ones like Fractured Powerstone .
Anyway, great deck! I look forward to seeing how it plays out and trying it for myself.
1 month ago
Exquisite Blood will give you a secondary win can using Vizkopa Guildmage secondary ability and comboing that to infinity. Dimir Infiltrator Muddle the Mixture Shred Memory Can help you tutor the guildmage. Brainspoil can help you tutor the enchant.
1 month ago
So, what's the Shred Memory for?
I only ask because it doesn't seem as if this deck has any winning 2 cost cards worth tutoring for 3. And removing cards isn't really something I think ur realistically going to use it for. Carrion Feeder isn't even tutor-able and is gonna need some evasion to be truly effective. I see what you're going for though, here.
I like this build; it's clean, and looks good in a list. But it's missing that good push toward a wincon late game and lacking some speed it needs to make up for that.
2 months ago
Interesting idea! Some things to consider:
You might also like these cards: Bag of Holding , Dimir Machinations (transmutes for necropotence), Tectonic Reformation , Street Wraith , Treasonous Ogre , Archfiend of Ifnir , Bone Miser , Alhammarret's Archive , Brainspoil (transmutes for alham's archive), Illusionist's Bracers , Mindmoil , Bolas's Citadel , Skirge Familiar , Shred Memory (for transmuting, especially for Shadow of the Grave! digging for Shadow seems paramount), archfiend of spite, curse of fool's wisdom, Gamble , Words of Waste , Geth's Grimoire , Waste Not , Burning Inquiry , Dark Deal , Reforge the Soul , Khorvath's Fury , Incendiary Command , Runehorn Hellkite , Memory Jar , Uba Mask , Bedlam Reveler .
I'm sure you can make room for some of these by removing some of those extra Muck Drubbs and Tainted Pacts :P
enpc on Combo Tutors
3 months ago
Thank you to everybody who commented, sorry about the delayed response. Good ol' fashioned life getting in the way (not to mention I wasn't getting notifications for a while).
DrukenReaps: The extra tech with Tez is nice. Ultimately, the reason I like him so much is that once he's down, it's an ability which fetches the artifact and puts it straight into play. He can also get a mana rock (read Mana Vault ) turn N and Isochron Scepter turn N+1. The untap is the icing on the cake, but not why I would play him. The double blue is a bit of a shame, but what can you do. I think he's a relatively strong contender for the slot.
Joe_Ken_: I think I'm goingto swap Impulse for Spellseeker - she just seems better (albeit at sorcery speed). It's a shame she doesn't have flash, but I get why she doesn't have flash. And I think I agree with you on Whir of Invention , while the deck can hit triple blue, you effectively need quad blue held up to resolve it.
jaymc1130: I both agree and don't agree with you. First off, I'll touch on Mystic Forge - I don't mind the combo but I don't think it has a place in the deck. The thing about PE was that sure, there was a combo with Sensei's Divining Top , but more than that it tied the rest of the combo packages together in the deck and acted as a nice piece of redundancy against losing access to reversal/scepter. And I don't think that Mystic Forge does the same thing.
On the topic of 3+ CMC tutors - while I agree to an extent, I don't want to discount them either. Grim Tutor is probably the worst tutor in that paying 3 mana is basically a bad Demonic Tutor (which, granted, is one of the best tutors in the entire game), but even still there is zero restrictions on what it can get.
The rest of the tutors however provide some kind of additional value, most of them in the form that they deploy the tutored card into play, effectively uncounterably (yes, I know that Stifle is still a card). So while you are paying ultimately 1 additional mana, you get to test the waters a little bit. And in that light, the difference is a single mana. Dark Petition is a bit different, but again the ability to get anything is super strong. Not to mention that when getting then playing an Isochron Scepter , there is no cost difference between it and D Tutor. But on the flipside, I'm not going to be cramming Diabolic Tutor into my deck anytime soon just to increase the tutor density.
As for the whole fast v slow matchups, again, I agree and I don't. sure, expensive spells are generally bad against lightning fast decks, but that also comes down to what else is going on in my hand. Generally the faster a deck, the more glass cannon-y it is, so in those games I'm focused more on a counterspell or two anyway - I'm playing the slower game. But that doesn't always mean I'm going to generate value with Tymna. A common table for me is Kess storm, OG Sisay combo/beats hybrid and Tasigur control (I appreicate this may not be toppest of top shelf cEDH but they're still not casual, pub-stomp games). Kess will be about on par with me speed wise, but all of the other decks outcreature me. At this point, I don't mind paying a bit more for a value tutor - especially since most tutors I'm interested in do more than just putting a card in my hand.
On the topic of your Tymna/Thrasios deck, I had a look and it looks really cool. It's interesting to see the amount of proactive hate the deck runs, which is not as common to see these days compared to just packing a deck full of counterspells (which is I guess what you're going for). That being said, in my playgroup and for my playstyle, it's not the deck for me. If all I was versing was fast combo it would be much more appealing. But as it stands, I'm happier with the direction the deck is currently taking and given my group, I think the list has more potency for what I'm up against (not to mention it seems like it would be a lot more stressful to pilot :P).
The transmute cards are interesting. I think that Muddle the Mixture is by far the strongest of the three (which is why I re-included it). Shred Memory is nice GY hate, but feels like it's just a tutor and at that poing costs the same as Grim Tutor . And Dimir Infiltrator is cool (especially with Tymna) but you want ot cast it as soon as possible for CA, which tehn means it's no longer a tutor.
I hand thought about Tribute Mage but he just feels too narrow.
I don't like Reshape here - I'm basically eating mana rocks to get the thing which combos with mana rocks.
Long-Term Plans is a cool card, but yeah, it feels a bit weak here. Good in Melek though.
StopShot: I had thought about Diabolic Intent before and the benefit that worst case scenario you just eat your commander. I'm still on the fence about it though. Again, I don't want to eat a thing to fetch a thing which combos with what I just ate.
I completely forgot about Wargate though and I have to say I'm very intrigued by it. The fact that it can fetch a part of any combo (except Dramatic Reversal and even then it can get Spellseeker assuming I make space for her) is very nice and the fact you don't sacrifice the end goal card if gate is couterspelled is really cool. The mana coast is a bit tricky but I think it could be a strong contender.
Scroll Rack is nice, but potentially a bit slow and can feel really empty if you're stuck topdecking for whatever reason. It's good wheel insurance though. I'll have a bit more of a think about this one.
I had thought about Tainted Pact , however the mana base will cause issues since I run 4 Island s for High Tide (which is surprisingly good). If I cut this down to 2 I could do the whole land/snowland trick, but I'm not sold on it.
Again, thank you all for your comments - there is a lot to digest here but I very much appreciate people's thoughts on it. Also, I think I really overthink card swaps :P
Shred Memory occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%