Lotus Vale

Land

If Lotus Vale would come into play, sacrifice two untapped lands instead. If you do, put Lotus Vale into play. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard.

Tap: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool.

Discussion (51)

Beebles on Queen Marchesa: Politics, Aikido, and Control

1 month ago

Wow, this deck has come a long way since the last time I was here. Congratz and well deserved! I also see some more basics in there (which I appreciate ;)) and no more Scorched Ruins and Lotus Vale. Is that a result of your new play group(s)? I was expecting to see Lotus Field though. Have you considered that one? You might also like the new Mangara, the Diplomat as a subtle pillowfort piece.

Anyway, keep up the good work :)!

OtherWorldlyShadow on wurms, Wurms, WURMS!!

4 months ago

What land does Farseek pull? You are in mono green, you can literally not run any land it could pull. I would swap it out for Nature's Lore, which is the inverse of it.

On a different note, I would suggest running Castle Garenbrig in the deck as well. You are in a mono green creature based deck, so this land is very useful.

I would also replace Command Tower with a basic forest. You gain nothing from having it in the deck, and it only opens up some risks (such as getting hit by a Blood Moon or Wasteland).

As well as that, I would suggest cutting some non-lands to run Lotus Vale and Lotus Field. Both of these lands can tap for a bunch of mana. Same can be said for Crystal Vein and Jungle Basin.

Zieo333 on Skittles, Taste the Dark Side [Infect]

5 months ago

Deck name suggestion: Skittle, Taste the Painbow. Just because I'm a sucker for PUNS! Also, love the deck, +1 and have you thought about upgrading your Lotus Vale for a Lotus Field ? I get that it might affect speed but I'm not seeing any synergy with it in your deck in the first place. It's still a 1 mana bump for a land drop. No untap shenanigans

BreakthroughArtist on Heliod

6 months ago

I had typed, like, 5000 characters and the site crashed

The short version: This is a collection of midrange creatures with control permanents and sorceries. That's never good. Your cuts will come from committing to one plan or another.

But Cradle of Vitality and Sunbond always go. Come on, son - you have the only playable versions of those effects in your command zone already.

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Reservoir aside, if your intent is to kill people manually, why are you playing so much symmetrical mass wipe? And then there's the halfhearted mana destruction line... I'm always here for it, and you should always be ready to remind people you have the cards and could do it, but your average cmc isn't less than 2 and you aren't playing a combo, so why is this package here?

Committing entirely into or out of the control plan is ultimately how you'll cut down to 99.

As things stand, this is most closely built to be played as a midrange deck. You just have so many creatures.

If you want to play this as a control deck, the tools are out there, but you'd ultimately be using enchantments and (as many colored) artifacts as possible to turn on devotion, and then heliod and your planeswalkers (and vehicles) would be able to get around your creature wipes.

Reflecting anyway in its current midrange form:

-treasure map: Your current list lacks the tools or even the curve to support this control tool. This could just be a Wayfarer's Bauble

-Hushbringer: Karlov can't be bothered to dance with it, and he only runs the soul sisters.

-Path to exile: Being in artifact/white, you can just run good cards. This should be a Dispatch if you aren't actually running path to ramp yourself. Don't forget your Ancient Den .

-Myriad Landscape is awful. This should be Inventors' Fair anyway. Or at least something should be - you're running too many lands as it is, even with armageddon.

-you're gonna nykthos off of 30 permanents? I think you meant to type Eidolon of Rhetoric

-mikaeus without an army of dice just isn't worth the space

-hedron archive has to tap several times before it's sacrificed for cards in order for it to have been worth the trouble - this shouldn't have made the cut before Commander's Sphere . you can play Cryptic Caves in the land line, too.

-thran dynamo isn't doing anything for you; you'd likely be better off with a gift of estates (and then an orescoes explorer, a boreas charger...) At this point, you could build like you have a Land Tax and go all in: Lotus Field , Lotus Vale , Karoo , Remote Farm ... and then you could justify that crucible of worlds.

you forgot Aven Mindcensor

Courtney43 on Lotus Field Storm [Primer]

7 months ago

Of note: the Mana Lotus Vale produces can be used to pay for Tale's End so you can get it out turn 1, also if you wanted to do that more consistently there are additional copies in Repudiate / Replicate and Disallow .

SufferFromEDHD on G R U U L S A N D S T O R M

9 months ago

Deserted Temple , Scorched Ruins , Lotus Vale , Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , Full Flowering , Ghired's Belligerence

DubbaDub on Muldrotha, the „Fun“ in „Funeral“ *Primer*

9 months ago

Hey Pikobyte

A few more questions on card in-/exclusions: I've been really impressed with Prime Speaker Vannifar in my Muldrotha deck, and the ability to use him for free each turn or just as another Birthing Pod effect has made the deck way more consistent. Why pod and not him?

A less-known card that was recommended to me by a friend was Reaper from the Abyss , and I've got to say that it has been extremely influential on the game during testing. Not only does he trigger on every turn, on every death, I've also used him an awful lot in politics with otherer players' cooperation to kill the 3 best creatures of the leading player each turn. Would greatly recommend.

Liliana, Dreadhorde General has also been quite fine, though not as much as the others. I always felt bad excluding some sort of Fecundity -esque effect, but iliana has the upside of being a planeswalker, and a pretty good one at that.

Titania, Protector of Argoth has joined The Gitrog Monster in the lands-dying-matters subtheme in my deck, and she can generate absurd boardstates with cards like the Horizon Lands and Lotus Vale / Lotus Field (and fetchlands, though those synergize with Magic: the Gathering), and she also ramps!

There is also a slew of new cards from ELD that seem great: Fabled Passage A budget, yet still great Prismatic Vista , and another part o the aforementioned land package.

Arcane Signet Sol Ring v2.0 in terms of being a staple, though not as powerful

Syr Konrad, the Grim I've been really thinking on this card, in the end I decided against running him. I'm unsure about it though, what are your thoughts?

The Great Henge A forgettable part of Muldrotha is that she's still 6/6. I think this is a near-staple in green, just because of the very powerful effect, often low mana cost, ramp, and powerful card drawing ability. Again, with Muldrotha this costs {1}{G}{G}, {G}{G} of which is added back.

superhuman21 on

9 months ago

Ok. So depending entirely on YOUR meta, I'm not a fan of a bunch of the lands. You have 4-5 of the 'pay 2life or it ETBs tapped'. That's 8-10 life. Sure you got lifelink on a bunch of guys, but cmdr isn't guaranteed. I'd consider swapping those out, unless it was purely because you have those already. Atraxa has 4/5 mtg colors, I'd run the Exotic Orchard as stats say your opp will likely be running 2-4 colors, meaning you'll have 1-3 colors in common min.
Your utility lands like the Bastion and Gavony are great choices for this. On the same related note check if you have a Coat of Arms , tribal almost demands you run this card and it can get OP real quick. I ran a Sigarda/human tribal and it wasn't uncommon to have 30 tokens with 30/30ea. They'll still die laughably to a disk or other similar wipe, but meh: 30x 30/30s.

• Assess that Darksteel Plate. I know it is great if you're running 1 fatty, but you should have a s$^&-ton of tokens. I'd consider swapping it for others.


• You got a lot of low CMC instants, but no Isochron Scepter . Consider running this, or sideboarding it. It explains itself.


• The Gilded Lotus. Replace that. Thran Dynamo , Lotus Vale would be my ideas. That or just playtest without another mana rock


• Assess the usefulness of that jellyfish. It seems cumbersome.


• Consider Lord of Extinction . I know Tormod and Dakmor et al can vaporize him with graveyard hate, but otherwise he's pretty solid. Give him trample/first/death/lifelink and ppl will hate you.


• Misc Suggestions: Odric, Master Tactician , Plaguemaw Beast , Anointed Procession , Perilous Forays , Cloudshift , Reclaim , Rootborn Defenses ...Finally EDH staples to assess The Disk, Panharmonicon , Strionic Resonator , Silence , Doom Blade / Murder


• ONE CARD TO ADD NO MATTER WHAT: Primal Vigor . Self-explanatory.

Well...That is all I got at the moment. You're really going heavy tokens so that's fine, just be sure to stay focused and not trying too many different things. :)