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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Premodern | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Lotus Vale
Land
If Lotus Vale would come into play, sacrifice two untapped lands instead. If you do, put Lotus Vale into play. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard.
Tap: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool.
TijuanaBachelorParty on
Tomik 43 Lands.dec
1 week ago
SufferFromEDHD Very cool deck! +1
Lotus Field and Lotus Vale can keep you deficient in land while providing colored mana and allowing you to continue ramping. Additionally, Arid Archway and Guildless Commons are similar and are great card advantage. All of these also work quite well with Deserted Temple.
Have you had a chance to play with Endless Horizons? I am curious to hear your experience with the card.
koth_of_the_bummer on
Akroma, Angel of 21
1 month ago
Thanks for the suggestions SufferFromEDHD!
I'm mono red player at heart, though I played lots for deck variety over the years. Red Akroma is truly a bomb once she goes off. Now regarding with your suggestions:
Gamble - I'm actually considering this, but I only have one copy and its on my Jund Coram Deck.
Lotus Field / Lotus Vale - yup seriously considering it as a replacement for Gilded Lotus
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Arena of Glory - I'll probably get this over Flamekin Village
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx / Nyx Lotus - probably no since as you have said, I don't have many permanents with in the deck.
SufferFromEDHD on
Akroma, Angel of 21
1 month ago
= gg
I have been staring at this in my collection for years and have never thought of color shifted Akroma as the voltron bomb she rightfully is. This is A+ jank!
Gamble always useful
Lotus Field/Lotus Vale "free" Gilded Lotus
Arena of Glory and/or Flamekin Village possibly maybe
Nyx Lotus and/or Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx I'm not sure you are running enough permanents but the fire breathing synergy seems too good to pass up
lil_cheez on
Keeping Up With the Joneses
4 months ago
Y'all know what I mean, and y'all know how it goes!!
Bouncelands (Karoo, Guildless Commons, Arid Archway) and Lotus lands (Lotus Vale, Lotus Field) keep your land count low so you can catch up!
wallisface on Why Did WotC Change the …
6 months ago
DemonDragonJ its likely that Banishing Light is getting the reprint because its rules text more closely fits with the current 2024 wording for designs like this. It’s also easier to grok for new players getting into the game. I don’t see the comparison between this and Lotus Vale being at-all close.
Caerwyn on Why Did WotC Change the …
6 months ago
This is hardly an “obnoxious move” - the official policy of Wizards is to use errata to preserve the original meaning of the card. From a certain point of view, this errata is not changing the card - it is preserving the card by ensuring the modern rules match the original intent.
Compare Winter Orb and Winter Orb. Notice the errata there? All continuous artifacts used to have a rule where if they were tapped, they were turned off. That rule went away… so cards like Winter Orb received errata to include “as long as Winter orb is Untapped” language.
Or every old Wall creature. When they removed the “walls can’t attack” restriction on the subtype, they used functional errata to give all walls Defender.
What happened with Lotus Vale is not weird - it is just how Wizards handles situations like this to preserve the original card even when the underlying rules that card was designed upon change.
legendofa on Why Did WotC Change the …
6 months ago
DemonDragonJ It would be a good way to take advantage of a quirk in the rules, but when it's functionally equivalent to a Black Lotus, that's just too much power even when it costs a land drop for the turn. Smaller effects might have gotten away with it better, but Lotus Vale is not the card to do it with.
DemonDragonJ on Why Did WotC Change the …
6 months ago
Lotus Vale's ability was originally a triggered ability, but it was changed to a replacement effect, as this user points out, so why did WotC change it? They usually avoid making functional changes to cards, so I wonder why they did so, in this situation.
What does everyone else say, about this? Why did WotC change the rules text of Lotus Vale?
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