If you tap a permanent for mana, it produces twice as much of that mana instead.
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Mana Reflection occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.02%
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Mana Reflection Discussion
4 days ago
Recommended additions and reasoning:
Mirari's Wake, Mana Reflection: These come at cheaper mana costs than your Zendikar Resurgent. Drawing a card on the Resurgent is good, but not good enough, since you have to cast the creature. While you likely will have enough mana to do so, it is going to be less common than cheating out the creatures. Additionally, Mana Reflection will work with all permanents, not just land. So your creature and artifact mana will double as well.
Exploration, Oracle of Mul Daya, Bloom Tender: all phenomenal sources of ramp. Highly recommend Oracle for the ability to remove land fromt he top of your deck, allowing you to dig that one card deeper... where you will find...
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth: Even if you aren't casting Kozi, you get a massive beater with Annihilator, and as a huge bonus, he helps recycle your graveyard in the event of a board wipe. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Gaea's Cradle: You run a ton of green permanents, and if you take the Mana Reflections from earlier, you double the number of green you get from it. It is a really cool way to generate a ton of mana super quickly. about the Cradle, creature heavy decks can always benefit from it, and again... Mana Reflections doubles it.
Warstorm Surge, Stalking Vengeance: 2 enchantments that give you free damage that you can use as removal for opponent's creatures or nukes to the face. Additionally, fun interaction with the surge and the Blightsteel Colossus I also recommend, the Surge says the creature deals the damage... unblockable 11 infect shoots someone out of the game.
Panharmonicon: In a deck with a ton of creature based ETB effects, this artifact is a must. With the Surge from earlier out, now you get 2 of those triggers.... Eternal Witness: Phenomenal recursion, and can save you by getting back something you need from the graveyard.
Genesis Wave: Now that we have you pumping mana out like a pro, Genesis Wave for 40, and watch as a large amount of unnecessarily large creatures enter the battlefield and turn them sideways because you have...
Urabrask the Hidden: Yeah that's right, get that haste, and if someone tries to flash in a blocker it's useless.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Sigarda, Host of Herons, Privileged Position, Vigor: Because nothing says "fun" like having a boardstate that is hard to remove. Additionally, damage to your creatures makes them bigger. Thank you, Vigor.
Craterhoof Behemoth: You play this with 10+ creatures on the board, and you have an automatic 100 damage added to your total.
Tooth and Nail, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Zealous Conscripts: This is an infinite combo as well as the tutor to get it. Tap Kiki, copy the conscripts, use the new copy's trigger to target Kiki, untap Kiki. Tap Kiki, copy the conscripts... Create infinite Zealous Conscripts to attack everyone for yes damage.
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight: Amazing for both extra damage and protection.
Vedalken Orrery: Because playing on your opponent's turn is funny. And your Seedborn Muse really gets to put in work in a 4 player game, on top of the Mayael useage.
Vexing Shusher: Because nobody likes blue. This card is a big middle finger to blue.
Lurking Predators: So your opponent wants to cast things? Maybe you get a free creature for it. Can be quite useful.
Recommended cuts and the reasoning:
Desolation Twin,Krosan Tusker: They don't do enough to better your boardstate in my opinion. Desolation Twin is a 10/10 sure, but other than that, nothing. Chances are, you won't be casting it that much to get the second 10/10 anyways. The Tuskar only benefits you if you cycle it, otherwise it is just a mediocre creature. Additionally, cycling it only gets a basic land, of which you are running very few. This is not a criticism of your land base. I didn't want to touch it too much because my own landbase is significantly more expensive.
Pathbreaker Wurm, Tectonic Hellion, Tyrant of Discord: These guys are all decent, but the Pathbreaker only helps one other creature. The Hellion is cool, but what if you have the most lands? You aren't running Crucible of Worlds, but your opponents might be. the Tyrant is more of a personal preference, I don't like it because of it's random factor.
Rith's Grove: It is a bounce land, without the benefit of tapping for 2 mana like the dual color bounce lands. Not worth running in my opinion.
Pure / Simple: This card is too restrictive. Running the Krosan Grip, Swords to Plowshares, and Path to Exile are all better options. They don't force you to choose multicolor creature, or equipment or aura. They just remove a target.
Tragic Arrogance: I love boardwipes as much as the next guy, but this hits you just as hard as your opponents, and instead of using Invincibility to get through it, you have to sacrifice. Wrath of God would be a much better option in my opinion.
Rith's Charm: To me it doesn't do enough by itself to warrant keeping. You have little to no ways of getting it back or making more uses of it, so it is a 1 shot item. I'm sure by now you have noticed I prefer things that have multiple and recurring uses.
Overall, I love it. I love Mayael, and she has been my strongest and favorite deck for a very long time (2012). My current version relies very little on her ability, because I played with a bunch of rather rude people that played Pithing Needle and named her all the time. It was not fun, but building my deck to use her ability as an option, instead of a strategy, changed the way I used her, meaning that the needle no longer leaves my deck dead in the water.
Please keep in mind that my recommendations are just that. if that Gigantosaurus doesn't do anything, but you like it because it's a dinosaur, and you don't want to cut it, you do not have to. I unfortunately gave up all my dreams of having cards I like for flavor, aesthetics, etc, because I decided to build my deck to compete and even stomp on combo and control decks. I have no room for cards that don't serve to better my boardstate as a whole.
Final Note: I will be more than happy to provide further insight and feedback if you have any other questions.
1 week ago
(Hah! TappedOut ate my comment. Let's try again.)
In regards to appreciating the deck, of course, haha! I absolutely adore janky and unique play styles. I get so tired of seeing the same tired deck concepts and "high salt" (according to EDHRec) cards in my playgroup, it's always super refreshing to see new, unconventional ways to play. ALSO HOOOOOOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED HOW Rite of Replication WORKS WITH ZADA, WOOOOOW! I have no idea why that didn't click when I first saw it in the deck! If you can resolve it, that's so beautifully evil, oh my god!
Er, anyway, regaining my composure, heh. As far as the protection thing goes, it shouldn't be too much of a problem, so long as you're careful with it and only use it to wrap up your comboing or in response to a threat. Did it find solid use (or potential for use) in your matches with your group? I also had another question: is there any reason in particular that you haven't included any enchantments whatsoever? I can't help but wonder how Parallel Lives or Mana Reflection (especially considering you already have Basalt Monolith in the deck) would perform, despite their comparatively expensive CMCs to the rest of your mana curve. I realize they're both a bit pricey to purchase, but oh man, regardless, I can't help but envision Rite of Replication and Zada going off while Parallel Lives is on the field. Again, not sure if there's a specific reason you haven't included enchantments, was just wondering.
One last thing I noted upon reading the entire decklist again: unless I'm missing something, in the deck's current state, Manamorphose, Explore, and most of your token generating cards only get their "as designed" single use before you have to shuffle them back out of your graveyard with Elixir of Immortality and hope to draw them again. Am I missing anything, or is that correct?
Anyway, that's awesome to hear about the win. I'm sure the expressions on your playgroup's faces were priceless!
Here are some cards that came to mind and some others that I stumbled across:
Card Suggestions Show
Please bear in mind that these are only for your consideration or cards I simply thought would interact interestingly with the deck. I should note, most of these are NOT Arcane spells. Please don't feel obligated to include any of them, nor that I'm trying to pressure you into changing cards. I just wanted to give you some card ideas which I personally think sound neat and wanted your opinions on.
(With that said I think you should definitely check out Enter the Unknown under the "Alternatives / Supplements" panel. Seems like a worthy inclusion.)
Again, sorry for how lengthy and wordy this entire response is. Hope I haven't overdone it or bored you to tears here.
(There's only one other card that can splice onto instants or sorceries, Splicer's Skill, but it's expensive to splice and doesn't really synergize with what you're trying to do.)
Comparing it to Explore, it's cheaper, but you lose the flat card draw. HOWEVER, it targets a creature, meaning if it targets Zada, every creature you control will Explore. For each Explore trigger, if the card you reveal from the top of your library is a land, you immediately put it into your hand (note, this is mandatory and doesn't count as drawing a card, which may be useful in some niche situations, such as an opponent controlling a Consecrated Sphinx or Smothering Tithe). You may then play that land (once the stack is empty) thanks to the secondary effect of being able to play an extra land this turn, same as Explore. But unlike Explore, you would get to play an extra land for every creature you control. So that's neat. However, if the card you reveal from exploring is NOT a land, the creature that the spell (or copy) is targeting immediately gets a +1/+1 counter. THEN, you may choose to either put the revealed card back on top of your library, OR into your graveyard. And then you still get to play additional lands for each copy of Enter the Unknown.
What's more, as long as you don't get rid of Elixir of Immortality, you can intentionally put revealed non-land cards that you don't desperately need into your graveyard. This gives you more opportunities to Explore (the keyword) into more lands to play, or more opportunities to buff your creatures, or it could even simply serve as library / graveyard filter.
One more card I'd like to mention in relation to Enter the Unknown is Gaea's Blessing. I don't think it would be worth including without Enter the Unknown, but if run together, could serve as a backup plan / alternative to Elixir of Immortality, since Exploring into it can immediately recover your graveyard into your library, including Gaea's Blessing itself. However, it would almost certainly be a wasted slot by itself (except to fetch Elixir of Immortality but that's still too niche), which is why I'm mentioning it here instead of in its own entry.
All in all, I honestly feel that Enter the Unknown is worth considering the most out of any of the others I've mentioned so far. That said, I don't want you to feel obligated to include it. After all, I haven't playtested the current decklist on TappedOut yet, so I have no idea if it's even a necessary inclusion. You've had a few chances to play and even win, now. It's your deck, and you know it the best, so it's totally up to you.
Anyway, that's all for me today. I'm certain there are plenty more cool or even better cards to include, but if I research any more right now, I'll likely be up all not, haha.
Congrats again on the win! Lemme know what you think of the cards I mentioned. I'll keep my eye on this deck as well as new cards for it, since I really love how silly this concept is.
1 week ago
(I'm going to apologize in advance right now, since I was studying for an exam earlier and took some Adderall to help me focus. As a result, this comment is about to get a super wordy. Very sorry.
2 weeks ago
The reason Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger did not make the final cut is because of the way his rules text is worded. He does NOT double your mana; he adds an additional mana. Normally he effectively doubles mana output, but here he falls behind Mana Reflection and Nyxbloom Ancient in both cmc and effectiveness. Both of those count mana dorks as well, and they can come out on turn 3 or 4.
His second ability is nice, but we should win the turn after we get Nyxbloom Ancient online, and the control side is not necessary.
1 month ago
Thanks for the comments and upvotes!
Akroma's Memorial is the haste giver in the deck. There is still the chance of flipping a large proportion of the deck, including Regal Force but I guess I like to live dangerously. I've definitely played vs a friend's deck where Primal Surge was literally "Flip deck onto battlefield, Thassa's Oracle win" and I find that boring as hell; creature combat still has some interaction and instant speed wraths exist.
1 month ago
TL;DR: The pre-text is LONG. Sorry about that, but there's a lot to unfold about the subject. If you just want to skip down to the suggestions I brainstormed, go below the first set of 3 lines.
It is no secret that the Commander community for a long time has regarded white as one of the weaker colors in Commander, especially as a monocolor. Many have pointed their fingers at how well the color achieves mana ramp and card draw/advantage.
White actually do have a small slew of card advantage and ramp cards or cards that in essence cheats the requirement for mana.
White has raw card draw in Mentor of the Meek and Dawn of Hope, although hidden behind a requirement in form of a trigger. Both are triggers that are fairly easy to achieve but not without costs. Not to forget Sram, Senior Edificer (and Puresteel Paladin) - but again behind a trigger requiring a very specific type of deck building. White has additional card advantage through regaining access to cards once lost, like through a Sun Titan getting back small permanents, or Nomad Mythmaker, Order of Whiteclay, or Bishop of Rebirth.
White has ramp in form of Knight of the White Orchid and Kor Cartographer and pseudo card advantage in good ol' Land Tax. The knight has a requirement that you need to be behind to actually ramp, and that aspect goes again in many of white's attempts to imitate ramp and card draw. White can only catch up, they cannot get ahead. These aspects are most recently seen through Verge Rangers (pseudo card advantage - not ramp, you don't get access to more lands than 1 per turn) and through Cartographer's Hawk. There's also Oath of Lieges but that is a symmetrical effect and may as well just benefit some of your opponents as much as it does you.
White can cheat the requirement for mana in a few instances, like casting Resurrection on a higher costing creature, an aspect they share with black and often a favorite when the two are paired. Where they differ is that black usually does it for less mana at another resource expense, and that black has different means to get those creatures out into your graveyard to set it all up. White has none of these opportunities/advantages.
This thread mainly aims to discuss white getting card draw/advantage in the Commander format and how they would achieve it to fit their color identity, but we can talk about the Commander format in general as well. To clarify, the topic is aimed at discussing how white could get card draw/advantage and not really whether or not they should - do feel free to voice your opinion for or against but please keep it limited and instead focus on how card draw could fit into white's color identity. It doesn't necessarily have to be from a place within the current color identity, but could be exploring new design space that hasn't been seen before.
Let's examine how other colors achieve card advantage:
Blue is super easy and the main color that achieves it, they usually do it straight as an investment for the specific purpose of gaining more resources; Concentrate. Blue also has access to looting options where they draw cards and discard cards (or the other way around); Merfolk Looter / Tolarian Winds. Blue also has the largest collection of cards with Flashback, so even once Blue uses a resource from their hand, they can do it again from their graveyard; Deep Analysis - although these cards are usually more costly than their non-flashback peers.
Black is also relatively easy as they imitate blue's investment but at an additional cost; Night's Whisper. As previously stated black can also access their graveyard like white and reuse mainly creatures that have died or otherwise put into the graveyard (from say an Entomb) by using Animate Dead or Zombify. Black's ability even goes beyond their own graveyard and dip into their opponent's graveyard. Black also have some aspect of self-discarding, usually as a symmetrical effect that aims at harming their opponents while still being able to access the cards they lost themselves; like Cunning Lethemancer.
Red is relatively new on this block, as they have for a long while had many of the same issues as white. Red did however have cards that looted (drawing and discarding cards) in the concept of picking up the strongest of a larger selection of cards - this is also called card filtering as you don't get an advantage in resources, only the selection. However red also has a selection of cards with flashback or activated or triggered abilities from the graveyard. With the introduction of impulse draw - so named from Act on Impulse, where red exiles a number of cards from the top of their library for the ability to play those for a limited time. Thus red has achieved temporary card draw.
Green is one of the richest colors in the color pie at the moment, having access to a lot of control cards, protective measures, card advantage, ramp and swingy plays. It is no wonder to me how green is one of the stronger colors in Commander. Green has access to some very strong card advantage cards that fits right into the slow format of Commander. Rishkar's Expertise is a favorite as it combines the Commander format's slow pace, green's affinity for big creatures, and a powerful swing in resources, all in one card. Another is the ability to draw from creatures being cast or entering the battlefield. Outside the slow Commander format, you don't really see these types of cards, but within the format they are strong and valuable. Green also has access to the most flexible way to reuse cards from the graveyard through Eternal Witness, Greenwarden of Murasa, Road of Return - road and Myth Unbound are even commander specific benefits that makes casting your commander cheaper, within the color with the most access to mana acceleration. So the color that needs it the least has ways to reduce their mana demand on casting their commander. I would argue this aspect should have been placed within white and/or blue more than in green. Black is getting in on it with Netherborn Altar, so in the future we might see the other colors circumventing the commander tax in some fashion.
White has very few card draw cards (the best of which are mentioned above) and all are locked behind some kind of condition that is not insignificant, compared to something like Beast Whisperer.
It would seem white lacks behind quite a bit in this aspect. When a color cannot do something itself or not very well, they usually seek toward artifacts to fix their issues. Here you can utilize Mind's Eye or Loreseeker's Stone or Arcane Encyclopedia or Book of Rass or Endless Atlas or Skullclamp or Tome of Legends to name a handful of the better variants. What most of these have in common is that they are expense to cast or maintain or require some specific deck building choices to function.
If the general consensus of Commander players are to be taken into account along with the perceived strength of each color, it would seem these artifacts are not enough to help white overcome its lack of card draw. Furthermore white's other strengths doesn't seem to have enough impact to offset this lack.
The general argument I have seen against providing white with card advantage is; it breaks the color pie, white can utilize artifacts to fix their weaknesses to some extend, white's strengths comes from mass land destruction, taxing (Thalia, Guardian of Thraben) and hatebears (Aven Mindcensor). Again I don't really want this thread to be overshadowed about arguing for/against White getting card draw into their color identity, let's just assume white eventually will get card draw - how would that look like?
Brief discussion on the counter arguments Show
- It breaks the color pie
Drawing cards is an essential part of the game's core mechanics. All other colors have come up with a fashion to draw cards that is now implemented into that color's design. Keeping white from attaining their seat in the circle seems like playing favorites.
- White can substitute through the use of artifacts
I already listed a good bunch of the better variants of artifact draw up above and one of the main problems is that artifact card draw is expensive, it is slow, or it requires a specific deck building design. Another issue is simply critical mass of card draw. You need a handful of cards to draw you cards in Commander to consistently have a chance to get to them during a game. The time between investment and break-even in terms of input versus output makes artifact draw vulnerable to removal / counterplays that say a Divination isn't.
- White's strengths comes from mass land destruction, taxing and hatebears
This is a paraphrased argument but somewhat sums up what I hear as the main strengths that are somewhat unique to white. Mass land destruction is seen by many as a break in the social contract that many players of the Commander format adhere to. It slows down the format and can only be leveraged if you're significantly ahead on the board - something that might be hard considering white doesn't have card draw nor ramp.
Hatebears and taxing are indeed some of the stronger and more unique aspects of white's color pie, but it does have an issue. Being the person who limits your opponents can often be seen as dragging others down to your level - a premise that not many players are interested in enduring. You can be seen as an nuisance or hindrance rather than attempting to leveling the playing field so white has a chance. This is often seen as a negative impact and it is persistent. If an opponent blows up your Mana Reflection you might dislike that player for a while, but the deed is done. You might even have ways to get it back or replace it with a Mirari's Wake. If that opponent instead plays a Copy Enchantment they effectively pulls themselves up to your level, but it doesn't have a negative impact on you, so you might not care (too much). If that opponent instead played something like Damping Sphere, you're repeatedly reminded that that opponent hinders your Mana Reflection. You're more likely to target the latter player; for one because if he dies, you can use your Mana Reflection again, and two you might build up more "resentment" (strong term but in context of an opponent in a game) towards him than someone who would blow it up.
That's at least my 2 cents about the counter arguments.
I really like the way WotC incorporated card draw into red, as impulse draw feels red but it is card draw and it helps red smooth out some edges it may have in especially multiplayer formats, such as Commander.
So, if we assume white is eventually going to get card draw, how would it look like? Here's a couple of ideas for concepts on how to incorporate a card draw mechanic with white flavor.
Good ol' taxing. We already have Smothering Tithe, so something similar to Rhystic Study could be a possibility. It could be an aura you put on a land, so whenever it is tapped that opponent pays mana or grants you card draw. It doesn't necessarily have to be mana that is taxed, it could also just be the action/trigger itself that is the tax.
A taxing example Show
Gathering Support at Court
Whenever one or more creatures attack you, draw a card. If three or more creatures attack you, draw two cards instead.
Warring / "spoils of war"
White is the most militarized color that deals in organized military strategy, being the main color for the creature types Soldier and Knight. White is often associated with combat and attacking as well. Perhaps it should be used to its advantage and provide some means to acquire card draw - figure it a substitute for roleplay wise gaining lands / trade routes / power / intelligence.
Example of war "spoils" Show
Kelmar, First Scout
Legendary Creature - Human Soldier
Whenever a creature you control attacks, put a Scout counter on Kelmar.
Remove two Scout counters from Kelmar: Draw a card.
I actually really like the idea of this one, although it may be harder to properly accomplish.
White has before had trades happening like Armistice and Bargain. There's also the advocates and Benevolent Offering but they are not unique to white and is a set mechanic. It's been a while since this was part of white's color pie, but it could be again.
Example on trading Show
Target opponent creates two Food tokens.
Until end of turn, Clue tokens you control have ", sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card."
Choose two. You may choose the same mode more than once.
It would be more flavorful with gold tokens, but I think from a design perspective, treasure tokens are the less broken variant. Initially I would have the second mode be "draw a card", but a 2 CMC draw 2 with a slight downside is simply too good.
I could make it 3 CMC to have it reflect a Divination with downside but being more flexible. I think this is more fitting and it has more cross-over potential.
The reason for using Clue token is because Clues are already a thing, enabling some cross-over synergy - and I know Clues are incorporated through the Investigate mechanic and haven't before been referenced directly. Clues fit white in the sense that they gather intelligence/reconnaissance - being the more military styled color, white shares with green the most mentions of scouts/rangers.
However just generating Clue tokens would result in 2 mana spent per card draw in addition to the initial 2 mana investment to get the clue tokens, that would be too inefficient by itself as a 6 mana draw 2. I think a 4 cost draw 2 with slight downside (or political influence) in white is acceptable, with the possibility to build more Clue synergy within white.
I guess this suggestion ended up as a double suggestion by also suggesting Clue tokens should be integrated more with white. This particular card example aims to solve both of white's most pressing issues in multiplayer formats, but it is still slow and inefficient enough to not have any kind of impact outside casual formats.
The flavor is there, as white is a color of community and peace, so trading seems like a natural byproduct. I really like the political aspect from this mechanic when considering multiplayer formats.
An alternative to direct card draw; you choose a card type (instant, sorcery, creature, land, artifact, enchantment, planeswalker) and then look at top X cards of your library, you may reveal a card of the chosen type and put it into hand, put the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
This reflects the Commune with Nature (which is a green card I know) but it seems to fit white's color pie as the more religious color, to ask the gods/divine/faith for a boon and maybe it is answered, maybe not. Obviously you can deck tech to increase your chances but the idea is a card draw that is not guaranteed. Under the right circumstances it can be stronger than a card draw as it may filter.
Example on Divination Show
Boon of the Gods
Choose a card type, then look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal a card of the chosen type from among them and put into your hand. Put the rest of the cards on the bottom of your library in any order.
Cleric of White Fields
Creature - Human Cleric
At the beginning of your upkeep Divine 1 - (Choose a card type, then look at the top card of your library. You may reveal a card of the chosen type and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.)
Just a few examples to show you can scale it. The deeper your dig, the higher chance to hit your mark. But no matter how high the Divine factor is, you only ever get one card - unless you trigger Divine multiple times; "Divine 1, then divine 1" - as you would "Scry 1, then scry 1".
Honor the ancestors
I really wanted to create some kind of mechanic that allowed white to dump cards into their graveyard, to synergize with white's inherent ability to generate card advantage through recurring permanents, especially low CMC permanents. As it stands white needs to cast those smaller permanents and have them put into the graveyard from the battlefield - thus making these recurring effects a lot more narrow than their black and even green brethren, who can more easily set up these beneficial plays. But it doesn't seem very much like a white thing to self-mill, ala Surveil, nor do they discard. For white to have this particular synergy you would have to make them gain it without much prior precedent.
One thing that seemed sort of within the flavor of white would be to honor the ancestors, remember the history, keep to the traditions. I think you could work that flavor into some kind of mechanic that could work to white's advantage.
Examples on Honoring the Ancestors Show
Creature - Human
When ~ enters the battlefield exile the bottom five cards of your library, then put any number of permanent cards from among them into your graveyard.
Crypt Attendant has first strike and vigilance as long as there are four or more creature cards in your graveyard.
Call on the Past
Exile the bottom five cards of your library, then put any number of permanent cards from among them into your graveyard. Put a permanent card with converted mana cost up to X plus 2 from your graveyard onto the battlefield under your control.
The latter can even double as mana ramp. It's not guaranteed and TBH an interesting little interaction. It's obviously not an evergreen mechanic as such, and will require some meaningful synergies to be made within the product. The mechanic could also just double as a downside, like;
Creature - Giant
When ~ enters the battlefield exile the bottom ten cards of your library, then put any number of permanent cards from among them into your graveyard.
Without any actual benefit it just removes a large portion of your deck, especially dangerous in limited. Any synergies with graveyard interactions can just be a benefit, but the card itself reads as a downside effect. These cards are usually also more interesting when dealing in constructed formats because you can turn the downside into an upside.
Anyway, that's just what I brainstormed for. Like I said before I really liked the flavor on red's card draw and I want white to get something similar. Do you like any of my suggestions or think you can refine them? How would you give white card draw that is flavorful?
2 months ago
I would go with a static CMC. It seems leaning a bit too heavy if you need multiple colors on board to actually play it effectively and for it to pay itself back. Seems like a multicolor double-dip.
I would probably go something like
: For each color among permanents you control, add one mana of that color.
At first I had it enter tapped, so as to mimic the summoning sickness of the creature equivalents, but figured it would be too high a price if you never even got to use it once - and it doesn't add colors by itself. You're still unlikely to have many colors by 4 mana, so it can mostly only tap for 1-2, at the very best 3 mana - unless you use cheap hybrid cards just for the sake of adding loads of colors quickly, at which point I think it's fine if you delude your deck to use such cards just for the advantage it brings this Lotus.
It will suffer some of the same issues that Thran Dynamo does. It's not really ramp, it's mana explosion or tools to be manipulated/abused with untaps. It works more like a Mirari's Wake or Mana Reflection than it does a Mind Stone. It is unlikely to see play outside 3+ color decks, as it still hinges on having colors on the battlefield to tap for anything.
I added the tap for 1, just so it at the very least can tap for mana regardless of your board state. Both the creature equivalents can always tap for mana. Unless there's a Mycosynth Lattice on the field.