Forsaken Monument

Legendary Artifact

Colourless creatures you control get +2/+2.

Whenever you tap a permanent for {C}, add an additional {C}.

Whenever you cast a colourless spell, you gain 2 life.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Brawl	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

TheBestMagicCard on Emrakul, the Promised End

3 weeks ago

Hey Profet93, thanks for the comment!

I do think Rings of Brighthearth is a great card, but I've excluded it mostly because, on it's own, it doesn't do anything...

Forsaken Monument, for example, = infinite mana with Basalt Monolith, but is also an incredible ramp card on it's own. This is basically the same reason that I've also excluded it from my Atraxa - Planeswalkers-Poison-Proliferate-Turns, even though it seems like an auto-include in that deck as well, in my opinion. I like Rings of Brighthearth a lot, but I really don't like looking at it on the battlefield without a combo piece, it's just a dead card then.

Aside from infinite mana, there are a bunch of other abilities that it could copy, like Planar Bridge, etc... However, the Rings only copies activated abilities, and I would sooner include cards like Lithoform Engine or Abstruse Archaic, as these cards also copy triggered abilities, like the cast triggers on Eldrazi, specifically Ulamog and Emrakrul, or Unwinding Clock's untap. Lithoform Engine and Abtruse Archaic both have somewhat more utility than the Rings, but as of yet, I still haven't squeezed them in either, again because I still feel like they just aren't good enough on their own without another combo piece.

Voltaic Construct fits into this "doesn't really do anything on it's own" category as well, and arguably is an even worse include than the Rings, Engine, or Archaic, but it's a lot easier to tutor up with cards like Eye of Ugin, Sanctum of Ugin, and especially Scrapyard Recombiner. Voltaic Construct + Metalworker and two artifacts in hand = infinite mana, which is pretty easy to assemble, and Metalworker is just a house on it's own. Voltaic Construct can also count for {2} towards Emrakrul's casting cost in the graveyard...

Ultimately, I would like to include any of these copy-an-ability cards, if not all of them, but when I have, it just feels bad to have them sitting around doing nothing. Also, I kind of don't really need to copy abilities like that, as it turns out. I've found this deck to be pretty strong, and copying abilities often seems kind of win-more and win-less at the same time. Copying doesn't always make as big of an effect as it might seem... although copying a Planar Bridge ability could put two combo pieces in, the Bridge can also chain out anyways that with Clock of Omens, which is also a really powerful card, even though it also fits into the "doesn't really do anything on it's own" category, but I think is still better than any of the afore mentioned cards ...

I haven't included Voltaic Key either, for the same reasons basically, although I think this is really a card that should be in here. I guess I've also partly not included Rings of Brighthearth because I haven't included Voltaic Key either. I would put the Key in before the Rings, but I'm still not sure about the Rings. I think I decided to include Unwinding Clock instead of Voltaic Key, because, even though it's more expensive, it is really really REALLY powerful!!! With Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter and mana rocks, this mimics Prophet of Kruphix, which I think is rightfully banned becuase it's way too powerful for one card...

The Top trick with the Rings is cool, and more card draw is definitely welcome in this deck. This combo ultimately reads, "{3}: Draw a card", but... I guess I've just come to the conclusion that there are already kind of a lot of "doesn't do anything on it's own" cards in here, so I've had to really pick the most powerful ones, and I guess I feel like the Rings just aren't powerful enough even when they do work, as they can only be activated once per ability. Clock of Omens, for example, can untap something a bunch of times, effectively "copying" abilities by just untapping something and activating it again. Also, Sensei's Divining Top + Jhoira's Familiar and Mystic Forge combo to draw the deck out for no mana once assembled, and these two cards are powerful on their own.

I like Wayfarer's Bauble a lot, and still want to include it. I think it is ultimately much better than Wanderer's Twig and Traveler's Amulet, which are both admittedly kind of bad cards.
The only reason I really include these at all is to get an artifact in the graveyard for Emrakrul's mana cost reduction, and to ensure land drops. Notably, multiple cards of one type still only count for {1}, so often times it's redundant anyways. I think the reason I kept the Twig and Amulet in instead of Wayfarer's Bauble, is I kind of see the Bauble as a mana rock that adds {1} but costs{3}, which I do not think is acceptable. The only rock that cost {3} and makes {1} which is included is The Celestus because it also has card draw attached to it, and it can be tutored for with Moonsilver Key, for the card draw.

Even though the Twig and Bauble aren't technically ramp, they do help ensure a land drop every turn, which is think is important. There's already 36 lands in the deck, which is a lot for how many mana rocks are included, but I really want a land drop every turn if I can help it. I've tried to minimize high mana cost cards, even though there's so much mana in here, because it's still possible to get mana screwed if you have just a bunch of expensive cards in hand and not enought mana! Technically there's 38 lands in here currently, but I've put Eye of Ugin and City of Traitors in their own "Special" category, as I consider them to act more like artifacts then lands, as they don't always do what just a land that taps for mana does. They're unreliable for just basic mana, I guess. I'm thinking of putting Temple of the False God in, and I would also include this in the "Special" category for the same reason, being that it can't always be relied upon for mana like a regular land...

The most recent addition has been The Irencrag, which I myself think is funny to fit in over any of these other cards, but the consistency of early ramp is too important. Assuming that {2} mana rocks will continued to be printed, I wonder what the limit to include will be! I actually took out Foundry Inspector to do this, which I don't like doing, and I might try to fit the Inspector in again first. But I think Karn, Legacy Reforged is on the top of the list for inclusions. Even though the mana he makes can't be used to cast Eldrazi, he'll be a huge beater, and will help cast and activate all those expensive artifacts.

My ideas are just what I've found to work playing the deck, and are by no means like, the way the deck should be built though!

Thanks for the comment!!! Very relevant, and totally valid. I will definitely try to fit Voltaic Key in again though, and reconsider Rings of Brighthearth, but actually I'll try Manifold Key first!

I hope that provided some interesting insight into my cards choices...

McDeity on Eldrazi and Artifacts

3 weeks ago

To both empty your hand faster and ramp to the titans, you might go extra heavy on the ramp.
"Freebies" Mana Crypt Mana Vault Sol Ring

Two drops Everflowing Chalice Coldsteel Heart Fellwar Stone Prismatic Lens Obsidian Obelisk Ebony Fly Fractured Powerstone Guardian Idol Liquimetal Torque Mind Stone Planar Atlas Thought Vessel The Irencrag

Three drops Basalt Monolith Metalworker Palladium Myr Worn Powerstone

Four drops Hedron Archive Ichor Elixir Sisay's Ring Stonespeaker Crystal Thran Dynamo Ur-Golem's Eye Firemind Vessel

Fives or Higher Gilded Lotus Dreamstone Hedron Chromatic Orrery

Weirder ones Blinkmoth Urn Foundry Inspector Metalworker Forsaken Monument

Coward_Token on Commander Masters Previews and Speculation

1 month ago

Yeah nah the colorless deck was quite dissapointing. There's not that much Forsaken Monument-style support for the color identity; I wish they'd do it in a Commander Legends precon or something so that there'd be more room for new cards.

Profet93 on Primer: Kozilek, The Great Distortion Of The Board

4 months ago

mowshowitz

I didn't see any in the description so I was unaware unless I missed it. Nevertheless....

QuietMyth

Mystic Forge + cost reducer/Cloud Key/Semblance Anvil/Ugin, the Ineffable + Top = Draw your whole deck

Basalt + Rings of Brighthearth + 2 mana = Infinite colorless

Basalt + Forsaken Monument = Infinite colorless

Everflowing Chalice (4 counters) + voltaic key + rings = Infinite colorless.

Blinkmoth Well + blinkmoth urn = One sided ramp. Do note that well interacts well with Winter Orb, Storage matrix and static orb should you be inclined to utilize a control/stax package to slow down aggro and midrange while you assemble ramp.

All of the cards are good on their own ensuring no dead cards. Hope it helps!

Steve_MTG on MYRODIN'S ADMYRABLE MYRACLE

4 months ago

Did you ever consider some endless (mana) combos?

Like Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth for endless {C}; combine them with Myr Matrix to get as many 1/1 dudes as you want or with a Sensei's Divining Top and/or Staff of Domination to just draw the entire deck until you reach your wincon. The Monolith also pairs well with the already included Forsaken Monument; goes infinite without the Rings.

Maccano1 on Urza's Artifact Buddies

5 months ago

2ND ROUND OF CHANGES:

REMOVED: Temple of Deceit, Temple of Enlightenment, Temple of Silence, Tempered Steel, Liquimetal Torque, Scholar of New Horizons, Thopter Shop, Sphinx's Revelation, Bident of Thassa, Alela, Artful Provocateur, Etched Champion, Armix, Filigree Thrasher, Myr Battlesphere, Filigree Attendant, Vedalken Humiliator, Tawnos, Solemn Survivor, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar, Marionette Master, Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle, Ethersworn Adjudicator, Indomitable Archangel

ADDED: Glimmervoid, Power Depot, Forsaken Monument, Mind Stone, Darksteel Ingot, Hedron Archive, Dance of the Mance, Thoughtcast, Thirst for Knowledge, Master Transmuter, Lodestone Golem, Research Thief, Treasure Keeper, Mycosynth Golem, Myr Retriever, Sculpting Steel, Mechtitan Core, Mystic Forge, Dispeller's Capsule, Dispatch, Burnished Hart

COMMENTS: Deck feels powerful, but one dimensional in that it's just trying to pump out big dumb creatures asap; kinda cool. I've played 3-4 times with the current iteration and I'm looking to speed the deck up a little bit; lands coming in tapped, not quite enough draw, and too many non-artifact creatures being the two major areas of focus. I've actually reduced the amount of creatures with this round of changes so I need to check that this is OK.

Lands probably need more work, still too many tapped lands by far. Scholar of New horisons is fine, just doesn't fit in the deck, same with Tawnos (who likely needs his own deck, but I have done a few cool things with him). Tempered Steel, Indomitably Archangel and Ethersworn Adjudicator were hard cuts. But I've added removal, ramp in so I want to see if that's better. Tempered Steel with the thopters was particularly good and may get added in.

DreadKhan on Ulamog, the ceaseless hunger

5 months ago

I went with a Gruul Commander for my Eldrazi deck, but I think there might be a few cards that make sense for you to consider. I found a few cards that I'm going to look into for my deck that you were running, so thanks!

It's a bit of a slower card, but Ugin, the Ineffable is pretty nuts in an Eldrazi deck, it shaves mana costs while making chump blockers (that you eventually get in hand), and you can also remove the odd annoying permanent in a pinch. Another slow card that might do enough work is Conqueror's Galleon  ^Flip, if you can flip it it's ramp that can draw cards or recur them, both are very useful. Another slowish card to consider might be Bonders' Enclave, this does have a hoop to jump through, but once you're through it it's pretty good for a land slot. Does Doubling Cube fit in here, I don't think you do a lot at instant speed, so it's just big dumb ramp, you pretty much need to burn through all of it at once each time you activate. If you actually expect to do a bunch of fighting with Ulamog itself, maybe Witch's Clinic for the lifelink?

A less slow card that I think is an auto-include is War Room, you don't even have colours so you don't have to pay life, it's just card draw for mana with no hoops. Not sure if I'm missing something, but Forsaken Monument seems like huge synergy.

jagnascar on You Ars is Graaz *PRIMER*

6 months ago

Your Basalt Monolith also goes infinite with Forsaken Monument.