Desolation Twin

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Vintage Legal

Desolation Twin

Creature — Eldrazi

When you cast this spell, create a 10/10 colorless Eldrazi creature token.

Kashai on Replicators

2 days ago

UncleLucky

For Determined Iteration, I feel Helm of the Host has this base covered pretty well although Determined Iteration does combo really easily with Combat Celebrant so perhaps. I'll also have to check out more cards with Populate, I almost forgot about them so thank you for reminding me!

And you should definitely build a deck with Brudiclad hes kinda wild!

TheOfficialCreator

Awww man you're right, I just new the Companion conditions were too easy. I was so looking forward to Lutri, the Spellchaser + Snap hijinx though.

Splinter Twin lost its spot to Endless Evil, for what we use it for we don't really need haste and if we do Brudiclad covers it plus now the tokens stick around.

For Desolation Twin I went with Myr Battlesphere instead because it drops more tokens. Going wide felt a little more right and we can still make Myr Battlesphere tall if we need to. Also we have Dark Depths to grab Marit Lage for a giant creature token if we need it.

Thanks for the suggestions and send more if you think of any! Also let me know what you guys think of these cards for what to potentially take out to get the deck size to 100: Reduce / Rubble, Rhystic Study, Treachery, Taigam's Scheming, Replication Technique

TheOfficialCreator on Replicators

2 days ago

Lutri, the Spellchaser is banned in EDH, just a heads-up.

I am surprised to see no Desolation Twin or Splinter Twin, though.

Grind on Saprolings of the Steel Legion

1 month ago

Cool deck!!!
I like that you run from beyond, that card is great. But you could run an eldrazi like Desolation Twin so you have a creature to tutor and you get a 10/10 to populate. Or Decimator of the Provinces maybe too, there are so many good eldrazi.
Anyway, other cool cards could be Cathars' Crusade, and Spirit Mantle for tana so shes unblockable, and Krosan Verge can ramp and fetch duals.
Anyway just some thoughts, cheers and have fun!!!

multimedia on Braids & her Interdimensional Friends

2 months ago

Hey, thanks for all the upvotes at my decks.

Nice start for mono blue and interesting Commander who I don't see played much. You have 101 cards, Desolation Twin could be cut to make 100. It's a much worse Eldrazi then the others.

Your deck could be less price, it's not overpriced garbage, but you could cut the price in half and it would be just as good. Three of the most expensive price cards here are Blightsteel, Ulamog and Betrays, but without more protection, counterspells and some more haste these creatures can be subpar to cheat with Braids because they don't give you value unless they can attack. Each of these creatures is a must kill by opponents. If you don't get to attack the first turn you give your opponents an entire cycle of turns to find an answer which in multiplayer Commander is a lot time. Treasure Mage is another creature who can tutor for Blightsteel.


Consider some more lower mana cost hard counterspells such as Arcane Denial and some creatures who can protect such as Spellskite? Protecting Braids is not as important as protecting what you cheat onto the battlefield because opponents are getting value from Braids too. More one mana instant protection is helpful such as Stubborn Denial and Slip Out the Back which is phasing and it's powerful with Braids.

Swiftfoot Boots is a lesser Greaves, but still fine and wanted in blue that doesn't have haste options. Akroma's Memorial is more price, but it's a big artifact to cheat with Braids that helps to setup other big creatures since it gives haste as well as other attacking abilities. Might also want to play Tribute Mage because can tutor for Greaves.

If you play Blightsteel, Ulamog and Betrays also consider playing some big creatures who give you value without attacking such as Hullbreaker Horror and Tidespout Tyrant? Each are much less price and can pack a punch without attacking. With Braids you'll have mana open to cast spells after your upkeep, use this mana for protection while also getting value from each spell you cast.

Bounce the permanents that your opponents cheat with Braids because the first turns cycle opponents get to trigger Braids before you. Bounce your own clones to clone something else or them. Both of these creatures when you control two them can infinite combo with Sol Ring. Bounce your own creatures who draw to cast or cheat them to draw again. Bouncing Braids can be a smart strategy because sometimes you don't want to give opponents the upkeep trigger and maybe you don't need the trigger.


Phasing, when you can control when a creature phases out is a busted effect with Braids. Vanishing can repeatedly protect Braids if you need that or deny your opponents her trigger because of how phasing works, only phasing in at your untap step. With Vanishing you can phase out Braids at any time or after your upkeep trigger which skips all your opponents upkeeps. It also protects her from opponent's sorcery board wipes which are plentiful in multiplayer Commander. You don't have to phase out Braids, but having the option can be helpful and you can politic with it by letting one opponent have the upkeep trigger and skipping the rest.

A phased out creature also phases out all auras/equipment that's attached to it, Vanishing is protected from removal when Braids is phased out. Vodalian Illusionist can also repeatedly phase out Braids. Combine phase out with Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir to protect during your turn especially any hasty creatures you cheat with Braids. If you can get Teferi down before you cast Braids then you can flash Braids in before your upkeep to trigger her before your opponents.


Consider more draw especially from creatures such as Nezahal, Primal Tide or artifacts such as The Magic Mirror that Braids can cheat? Nezahal is Mystic Remora which is excellent in multiplayer Commander with a big body who can protect itself. With Mirror you can stack the upkeep triggers to draw before Braids trigger. Mulldrifter is a budget creature for draw who can also be easily cast and is a nice target to clone/create token or bounce.

Braids is a Wizard you could take advantage of some Wizard only effects such as Azami, Lady of Scrolls can repeatedly draw two cards by tapping her and Braids. Galecaster Colossus can repeatedly bounce two nonland permanents opponents cheated with Braids. Riptide Laboratory can repeatedly bounce Braids. Combine this effect with Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir to deny your opponents Braids triggers by flash cast her at last opponent's end step and then after your upkeep bounce her with Riptide. Teferi is also a Wizard.

Vedalken AEthermage can Wizardcycle to get any Wizard including Orvar, the All-Form who does count as a Wizard while in your library/hand/graveyard. Vodalian Illusionist is also a Wizard. Wizard's Retort is Counterspell with Braids.


I like the secondary strategy of cloning your own or opponents permanents and/or gaining control of your opponents permanents that they cheat with Braids. You could expand on this strategy with Agent of Treachery, who is more price, but he can gain control of any permanent. He's also not legendary making him an excellent clone/create token target since the more of him you have the easier to control three permanents you don't own to then repeatedly draw. He's a good target to bounce because you don't lose the permanent you gained control of. Clever Impersonator can clone any nonland permanent.

Instants with buyback that target such as Mind Games and Capsize are good with Orvar, the All-Form to repeatedly trigger it. Capsize can be a win condition when you create infinite blue mana which mono blue is quite good at doing. If you want go this route you wouldn't have to add very many cards. In fact Orvar + Peregrine Drake + any buyback instant that targets is a combo for infinite blue mana from Islands as well as infinite Drake tokens as a potential win condition.


Consider more ramp? You're playing a lot of high CMC spells that you're counting on Braids to cheat them, but if you don't control Braids then more ramp could help to cast these spells. More ramp can also help to be able to cast Braids and have mana up for instant interaction the turn you play her.

High Tide is a favorite of mono blue since it's only one mana and playing so many Islands. Caged Sun with or without Braids can help to repeatedly cast almost any spell. Combine Tide/Sun with a draw spell such as Pull from Tomorrow or Blue Sun's Zenith to draw a lot of cards at instant speed, giving you a lot of options of permanents to cheat with Braids.

Good luck with your deck.

bignickenergy7 on Volo-ptuous Diversity

3 months ago

Mirrorhall Mimic  Flip and Peregrine Drake are must haves in a Volo deck from my experience. Mirrorhall is a clone without the shapeshifter creature type. So Volo’s restriction won’t affect it. Copying peregrine makes boatloads of mana. You tap the lands between the first one untapping them, the 2nd one coming in, and untapping them again. I would also recommend Desolation Twin for your Eldrazi slot as filling the board with a bunch of 10/10s is always nice. Mind Flayer is a salty card, but it’s a spooky monster and “clears” the board. Primordial Sage is a more expensive beast whisperer, but it’s worth having if you aren’t going to run Mirrorhall.

TypicalTimmy on How do you build Karametra?

6 months ago

I had built my Karametra, God of Harvests with two main facets: The Landfall mechanic, and very massive creatures to put those lands to good use.

One clever trick you can do is loop Jeskai Barricade and Stonecloaker back and forth, bouncing each other. If you have an appropriate means of cost reduction, it becomes very efficient. For example, Oketra's Monument and Cloud Key would reduce their individual costs to a mere .

Each time one of these ETB, you bounce the other and tutor a Plains. If you have a means to have that Plains ETB untapped, or able to untap it, you can filter all of them from your library that turn. One method is Stone-Seeder Hierophant. Another is Amulet of Vigor.

These, in effect, allow you to cast Jeskai Barricade for just . Upon cast, you tutor a Plains. It ETB tapped and you either untap it with Amulet of Vigor or with Stone-Seeder Hierophant. From here, Jeskai Barricade ETB and you bounce Stonecloaker. Now, that Plains you just had ETB and got to untap can be tapped to add , allowing you to cast the Stonecloaker from your hand thanks to the cost reduction of Oketra's Monument and Cloud Key. From here, you tutor another Plains and repeat the whole process over again.

If you want lands that have , you can do this one of two ways:

Filtering into will assist you in getting green mana, but it won't allow you to tutor Forests.

However, what this will do is you can tutor Forest, and use the Forest to pay for to continue the combo mentioned above. If you do this, you can tutor every single land in your entire library in one single turn.

Unfortunately, Selesnya doesn't exactly have a means to give global haste. You'd want to rely on something such as Akroma's Memorial or something else. It gets pretty tricky and difficult and you're better off to try and secure the win via alt-wincon.

But, this whole setup is extremely flimsy. Just one piece being removed blows the entire combo up. Your table may not see what's going on the first one or two times, but they will catch on and the moment Jeskai Barricade drops for the first time, it'll be hit with a furious wave of removal. Once this happens, your entire deck is dead in the water.

That's why I no longer play Karametra. She definitely is a Timmy deck because she absolutely wants tons and tons of creatures slamming the field as quickly as possible... but she becomes super flimsy. Imagine getting 9 or 10 lands out by Turn 6 or 7. You drop something massive like a Desolation Twin and it gets hit with the first wave of removal. What happens is you become the biggest threat at the table, even when you have literally nothing. The reason this mentality sinks in is because your Commander has Indestructible, so most players are unequipped to handle her. Since her removal isn't an option, they hit your boardstate, instead.

You become a magnet for removal and hate, and you spend the rest of the game "catching up" and "doing nothing".

In my personal experience, she isn't fun to play because of this very reason. But... if you'd want to build her, that's how I did.

  • Landfall + that combo

...so Stonecloaker can bounce itself. No need to even have Jeskai Barricade. Jfc I am the biggest of dumb.

Still, you need cost reduction + filtering + land untapping... it's still a cumbersome problem and, like I said, one piece of removal blows the entire combo apart.

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Her Royal Fluffness

8 months ago

Got to love some big green stompy! Any deck playing Siege Behemoth needs a +1.

This list is pretty tight, but here are a few cards for your consideration. Augur of Autumn to be able to play lands and creatures off the top of your library. With 36 creatures, Lurking Predators will likely consistently hit. Nylea, Keen-Eyed for additional cost reduction and card advantage may be helpful (she is tough to remove as well). Lastly, I'll suggest a pet card of mine: Worldspine Wurm. It's massive, has trample, makes other big wurms with trample, and it keeps coming back.

Possible cuts for Spring-Leaf Avenger and the aforementioned cards would be Desolation Twin and Impervious Greatwurm. Those creatures are huge, but they are chump blocked for days. Primal Order is another. It's a cool card for sure, but I think you have enough in the way of finishers that you don't need it. Plus removing it would allow you to play more utility lands like Castle Garenbrig.

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