Aether Hub

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Custom Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Kaladesh (KLD) Uncommon
FNM Promos (FNM) Rare
Promo Set (000) Rare

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Aether Hub

Land

When Aether Hub enters the battlefield, you get (an energy counter).

: Gain to your mana pool.

, Pay : Gain one mana of any colour.

Aether Hub Discussion

dingusdingo on The magic touch.

1 month ago

Alright lets break down your deck and take a peak.

Lands

Nothing too crazy with your land base. I'm not wild about the "two or fewer" lands, or the "two or more opponents" lands, but they work inside an EDH pod. Two or fewer is worse in my opinion. Forbidden Orchard is a card you should definitely consider, Gemstone Caverns as well. River of Tears is not reliable and I'm not a fan. Obviously the original Duals will serve you well here, but those are $$$.

Looks like your land base is trying to run High Tide as well as Tainted Pact . Those cards unfortunately aren't compatible, so you need to choose one package. I think Tainted Pact is a better choice because its a neat A + B with Laboratory Maniac , whereas you don't have a guaranteed outlet for all that High Tide mana. Consider trimming down to just 1x of all your lands, look at one time rainbow lands if you need budget Aether Hub Tendo Ice Bridge .

Wincons

Simply put, you have too many win cons. Turn the slots from the weaker ones into support for your stronger ones.

Wanderwine Prophets is expensive to cast. It also requires combat damage to a player, meaning your combo is only live as long as you can swing freely. Regardless, its still a strong way to close games. You need to run proper support for reanimating. First, you need to increase reanimation density. Necromancy Apprentice Necromancer Exhume Shallow Grave . Next, you need to ensure you can get your reanimation targets to the graveyard. Careful Study is probably the only one I'd add, although there are certainly more options. Finally, it helps to have extra reanimation payloads in case Wanderwine is unavailable. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur and Consecrated Sphinx are both strong enough to cause you to run away with games from card advantage, most likely guaranteeing a win.

Next, Tainted Pact / Demonic Consultation + Laboratory Maniac . I think this is the strongest win condition you're currently running. Important that you pack density of "draw a card" effects to guarantee same turn winning. Make sure to optimize your land base so Tainted Pact is a guarantee!

Mind Over Matter + Azami, Lady of Scrolls is your weakest combo. Its needlessly expensive at 11 mana! The pieces are also the hardest to cast and tutor. The 4 blue in MoM makes it prohibitive sometimes, same with the 3 in Azami. The pieces are also found by the fewest amount of tutors you run, while the tainted pact combo is far more easily searchable.

Doomsday is strong but you are lacking some necessary cards. Gush and Gitaxian Probe will make your life far easier. Same with Lion's Eye Diamond . I would currently cut this from your deck.

Dualcaster Mage / Naru Meha, Master Wizard + Ghostly Flicker / Illusionist's Stratagem is also relatively weak. Requires you to hold then dump all the mana during the same turn, and 6-8 mana is not a fantastic range. The cards are also rather weak outside the combo, but not horrible. You can add additional value by getting more ETB creatures or blink effects for combo. Twinflame Heat Shimmer Cackling Counterpart Imperial Recruiter

Ramp

Looks like you know what you're missing as far as moxen goes. You should also consider running the Signet cards, gives reliable ramp that avoids land hate. Also adds artifact density for when you get that Mox Opal . Wayfarer's Bauble is bad and should be cut.

Card Draw

You are lacking some card draw that would help you. Dark Confidant Mystic Remora Rhystic Study . Sensei's Divining Top works extremely well with fetchlands and would provide value here. Top would also allow value wincons to be inserted like Dramatic Scepter or Paradox Engine . Kess, Dissident Mage gives massive value here and helps you escape from grindy mid games against other control decks. Wheel of Fortune and Timetwister will obviously help here, but are $$$. Windfall is extremely strong as it neutralizes opponents who get massive card advantage early in the game, or helps you after you dump a fast hand.

Interaction and Removal

Pyroblast is worse than REB and you shouldn't run it. 13 counterspells is certainly too high, you can also cut another. You currently run three spells that can deal with a resolved enchantment, Chain of Vapor Galecaster Colossus and Venser, Shaper Savant . A Rule of Law or Arcane Laboratory that has resolved ends your game. Galecaster is pretty low value and should be removed. Dismember both hits for a lot off of Ad Naus and costs a lot on your Ad Naus to be low costed to cast. You should swap it out for a sweeper like Pyroclasm or Earthquake , you already have strong targeted removal. Abrade is the exception, and should be added due to its flexibility.

Closing Thoughts

You are definitely on the right track. Cast a critical eye towards anything 3+ CMC, as those greatly rob your Ad naus and are harder to cast. Archaeomancer and Galecaster Colossus specifically stand out as removes. Test out a few different Grixis flavored wincons and see which one feels the best based on the paper cards you have. Take a peek at Kiki Jiki + friends, as well as Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal . Kiki fits into reanimator, and dramatic scepter is extremely easy to slot and assemble. Test out Dualcaster/Meha with additional combo payoffs, because there are quite a few that let them combo off. Your deck is currently at a point where you need to start greatly considering card quality and slot intensiveness. The fewer slots, the easier to cast, the more the pieces have value alone outside the combo, the better. You also need to start considering the hate pieces other decks are going to run. How do you handle Torpor Orb for example?

Chasmolinker on So, You Wanna Play Jund Yea? (Budget)

2 months ago

Thanks for the support keinsteinkenten! I used a style sheet. (See the bottom of my [[Primer]] - Jund Midrange and be careful) There is also an easy way to do it if you're not up to it yet by using this code at the beginning of your deck description:

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/q3pIX.gif" style="position:fixed;top:0px;left:0px;width:100%;height:auto;z-index:-1;" a/>
Followed by a style sheet such as this one to make all the boxes transparent:
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="https://dl.dropbox.com/s/fqxpobte7n2g7wh/TappedOutProfileCustom.css?dl=0" a/>
Hope that helps.

And yes. I played this deck for the first time at my LGS and had an absolute blast. Aether Hub got some funny looks as did almost every other card in the deck. Even got Bloodhall Ooze up to 13/13. It was so refreshing to play this deck against the current meta. Of course it struggles against Burn like most slow decks do. But the potential to swing for big damage with Bloodhall Ooze drew the attention of plenty of bolts .

oberien on Metalworks V2

2 months ago

I liked the v1 list and played it at two FNMs. However I didn't find it complex enough being used to Hardened Scales, KCI and Amulet Titan (and Amulet Bloom back in the day). I love the solve the puzzle aspect of decks. The old version felt more like a "cheat 10/10 into play and beat the enemy down" with the infinite loop feeling more like a backup. The new list above seems to focus more on infinite loops, which satisfies my inner MTG player :)

I took the above list to the FNM with slight modifications and went 1-1-1 (could have been 2-0-1 if I knew the deck better). I didn't have any Conjurer's Bauble so I replaced them with Akroma's Memorial , Ghirapur AEther Grid and Karn, Scion of Urza . I really enjoyed playing the deck and slowly discovering more and more ways to win the game :) For those interested, I went for this sideboard: 3 Nature's Claim , 2 Dismember , 2 Abrade , 2 Firespout , 1 Engineered Explosives , 2 Nihil Spellbomb , 1 Grafdigger's Cage , 1 Sun Droplet , 1 Sorcerous Spyglass .

Infinite Combos

General loop: Metalwork Colossus (MC) and Scrap Trawler (ST) on the battlefield, at least {3} mana reduction on the battlefield (e.g. 1 Semblance Anvil and 1 Cloud Key ) and enough CMC for MC, a Metalwork Colossus in the graveyard (GY). Sacrifice MC and ST to the MC in the GY. ST-trigger of MC gets back ST, ST-Trigger of ST gets back any {0}, {1} or {2} mana artifact. Play MC and ST for free. We're back to the beginning but have an additional artifact in hand and increased the storm count.

Another possible loop if artifact reduction is only at {2} is to not sacrifice ST, but only MC and the {2}-mana artifact, ST-trigger of MC get back that artifact, play both. If artifact reduction is only at {1}, it's possible to draw some cards with Conjurer's Bauble (until there are no more artifacts in the GY) or to include Chromatic Star and draw infinite cards. There must always be enough non-creature artifact CMC on the battlefield to cast MC for free.

Infinite Card Draw: Get back Elsewhere Flask and play it (-> draw), then sacrifice it to get it back again in the next iteration. If there's a sac-outlet on the battlefield, it's possible to get back any egg and sacrifice it to the sac-outlet before sacrificing MC and ST to MC in the GY.
Infinite Damage: With Ghirapur AEther Grid in play, just do the most simple version of the loop and tap both to-be-sacrificed artifacts to grid before sacrificing them, dealing one damage. Without grid sac the Mortarpod token for 1 damage, sac Mortarpod and MC to the MC in the GY, ST-trigger of MC gets back Mortarpod . Rinse and repeat.
Infinite Mana: Tap Mind Stone for {1}. Sac MC and Mind Stone to the MC in the GY. ST-Trigger of MC gets back Mind Stone . Rinse and repeat.

Card analysis

I'd like to go through some cards:

  • Arcbound Ravager : I really like this addition. I was missing a sacrifice outlet to get the second Metalwork Colossus into graveyard before. Arcbound Ravager being fetchable with Sanctum of Ugin is just amazing and allowed me to go off in two games in the FNM which I otherwise couldn't have.
  • Grinding Station : I'm not sure about this card in general. I've previously played some variations of Krark-Less Ironworks lists ( Semblance Anvil and Grinding Station ). I see this card in this deck mainly for 3 reasons. (1) Milling the opponent with the infinite combo, (2) using it as a sac-outlet, (3) milling yourself to get a Metalwork Colossus into your graveyard when you already have one on the field to start the combo.
    I don't see the reason for (1), as we already have infinite card draw (eggs) and infinite damage ( Ghirapur AEther Grid or Mortarpod ).
    For (2) I find Arcbound Ravager better, as it can be fetched for with Sanctum of Ugin and doesn't need to be tapped (even though you can respond to the untap-trigger of Grinding Station by tapping it whenever an artifact ETB).
    For (3) I can't really judge that yet, as I didn't really try it out yet. I usually don't have problems finding the second Metalwork Colossus among Ancient Stirrings and Sanctum of Ugin . In longer matchups Inventors' Fair can also be used, even though I didn't need to crack any fairs so far. It might help against Blood Moon .
  • Mortarpod : This is the easiest and cheapest go-to infinite damage card. Even if drawn without a loop, it's still one damage that can take out a Snapcaster Mage to slow down the clock of an opponent ifneedbe.
  • Akroma's Memorial : I personally love this card in this deck. I've added it to the old version, and I also have it in my current deck. First, given {2} to {3} mana reduction, it's pretty easy to cast. It triggers Sanctum of Ugin letting you fetch Metalwork Colossus . If you have it deployed, and have any mana reduction on the field, MC is already free. Nobody expects this card. It adds another sort-of wincon. You can win with this card out of the blue. While I think it may be somewhat a win-more card, it has already won me several games single-handedly. I was able to fly over my opponent's elves. Giving Vigilance, it allowed me to attack with two MC against Spirits, which needed to block one, which left them without lethal and put me into a better spot. I just love this card.
  • Ghirapur AEther Grid : I think this card deserves to be a one-of in the deck. Against creature-based decks, it enables easy removal of the creatures. Control decks can barely do anything once it's deployed. And otherwise it still allows an infinite damage combo if Mortarpod has been exiled.

These are some cards, which may be good, but I don't see their effectiveness quite yet:

  • Greater Gargadon : As an earlier post suggested, this is a possible sac-outlet and threat. The problem is that we usually want artifacts on the battlefield to make Metalwork Colossus cheaper. Additionally, if we're able to get to 10 artifacts, we most likely already have a win condition.
  • Karn, Scion of Urza : I'm very unsure about this card. It gives us card-draw, but I don't think that's important in the current decklist. The only real reason for it I can think of is for the super-large token when we have lots of artifacts in play. But for that it might be too slow. It might help in grindy matchups, but in those MUs we'd just like to combo off anyway. And against control MUs it's not needed as this deck already has an amazing control matchup.
  • Salvage Titan : This card might be worth investigating, but I'm unsure if it goes well with the other ideas of the deck. We don't necessarily want to sacrifice 3 artifacts for a 6/4.
  • Silent Arbiter : This might be good against creature-heavy matchups and go-wide strategies.
  • Torpor Orb : Unsure if there are enough MUs which this card is good in.
  • Sun Droplet / Golem's Heart / Dragon's Claw : These might help against burn / fast strategies. May also help agaist phoenix decks.
  • Ratchet Bomb : Cheap (probably free) boardwipe. Helps against chomp blockers and tokens. Probably shouldn't be cracked for {2} :)
  • Engineered Explosives : Also possibly cheap boardwipe and a one-answers-all type card. Especially useful with Prophetic Prism .

Mana Base

I'm not sure about the landbase. I prefer utility lands over the Aether Hub s. I think that the old mana base fits better. This is probably mainly because I still like having Prophetic Prism over Elsewhere Flask . I haven't tested a lot with the landbase yet, so I'm not sure what the correct way of handling this is.
I often times lose against the deck itself just due to only drawing lands / having no lands. I'm not sure if this is just plain misfortune or if the number of lands is hard to balance between having enough lands on the starting hand and not flooding.

Weaknesses

Matchups

  • Through the Breach / Nahiri, the Harbinger : Alchemist's Vial completely shuts them off. Therefore, this MU is amazing.
  • Control: The Control MU is probably one of the best out there. Always remember having a sacrifice outlet for any Metalwork Colossus on the battlefield, be it Phyrexia's Core or a Metalwork Colossus in the graveyard. Whenever they try to exile one from the battlefield, get back one from the graveyard and get the otherwise exiled one in the graveyard.
    I even won two out of two games against Legacy Miracles (low sample rate, but we both felt like the MU is highly favoured for Metalworks Combo)
  • Very fast creature decks: This deck seems to always just be one turn too slow for very fast creature based MUs. In fact I lost 4/4 games against Sliver.

I don't have a lot of matchup data so far, and the above are mainly just estimates and gut feeling playing the matchup.

Please leave feedback on my observations so far, I really love this deck and it feels like it still has potential.

SP3CTR3_chelts on Abzan Infanite

3 months ago

hey like the combo (+1)

BA are quite high CMC for modern. Have you considered running any ramp? maybe Arbor Elf ? it matches well with all shock lands you are running? or Birds of Paradise if you have them?

also a bit of extra draw would not go amiss? Glint-Sleeve Siphoner works really well with Winding Constrictor kind of a budget and less painful Bob. could also run Aether Hub to bump this combo as well. (for the same reason watch out for infect :P )

Demarge on EDH Sacrifice

5 months ago

Heartstone could be an interesting inclusion, make the activated ability a lot more able to use multiple times a turn. you also can sac it if you ever find an opponent trying to use it better than you.

Now I do suggest cutting the tapped lands that don't provide good utility, maybe even run more basics instead if you lack access to cheaper untapped lands like Llanowar Wastes or Aether Hub or Opal Palace, some tapped lands are ok for tempo, but the occasional hand where all your lands entered tapped feel really bad.

Burnished Hart is in most cases just a better wild-field.

Bloodline Keeper  Flip is pretty good for token making, you can even use it more as a wincon by itself in some situations.

You may also want to look into trying out a few cards for reanimation, there are many options in the 1-4 cmc range that are all pretty good for edh.

Lucky77 on UG Energy

5 months ago

Heyo. First of all I’d like to say that I really like the idea of the deck here. Secondly, I’d like to say that the idea that I’m about to say may be really stupid. If it is, just let me know.

My idea is to splash a little bit of red into the deck. This will allow you to play Through the Breach which is a pretty good card with your plan, and also stuff like Harnessed Lightning to deal with the more agressive decks. Plus, with Aether Hub, it shouldn’t be all that hard to splash it in. Just an idea I had.

Love the deck. +1 from me.

hungry000 on Magistrate's Sceptor

6 months ago

I can tell you play more standard than modern or just started playing recently from your card choices; if you're building the deck around Magistrate's Scepter, it'll be a lot better to focus on that part of the plan rather than make a hybrid +1/+1 counter stompy deck that also kind of works with the Scepter like what you have now. I suggest you drop all the Glint-Sleeve Siphoners, Jadelight Rangers, Merfolk Branchwalkers, Rishkars, Adventurous Impulses, Diabolic Tutor, Mastermind's Acquisition, Sorcerer's Wand, and Animation Modules, as they aren't necessary for the main plan (the Animation Modules are okay but they're not great).

Instead, it would be much faster and more consistent if you played some cards that can add charge counters to artifacts, such as Coretapper and Surge Node. They work well with Voltaic Servant, and you could also play some proliferate cards like Throne of Geth (which also works well with Voltaic Servant). Tezzeret's Gambit can proliferate and help find gas, and Ancient Stirrings fits perfectly in this deck since it can find Coretappers and Magistrate's Scepter. I think a more artifact-based deck is the way to go with this deck, the core of it would look something like this:

4 Magistrate's Scepter 4 Coretapper 4 Surge Node 3-4 Voltaic Servant 3-4 Voltaic Key

4 Ancient Stirrings 3 Tezzeret's Gambit

20ish lands (I don't really think you need Aether Hub but you could play it)

The rest of the deck you should fill out with combo protection, like 1-mana discard spells, maybe a couple Spellskite, etc. You could also consider going into Sultai or UG for the counterspells.

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Aether Hub occurrence in decks from the last year

Modern:

All decks: 0.04%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.01%