Aether Hub

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Aether Hub

Land

When Aether Hub enters the battlefield, you get (an energy counter).

: Gain to your mana pool.

, Pay : Gain one mana of any colour.

Spirits on

1 year ago

Hey Zorke,

Ok based on your comment about the combo, I'm basing these recommendations on a:

Tuned tier - Power level 5 (6 usually has a combo) - Win before Turn 14 - "Upgraded Precon". Visual Guide to Power Levels in EDH.

-- Land Base -- Prioritize untapped, Mana colors, Target 33: +Shivan Reef -Island +Yavimaya Coast -Forest +City of Brass -Aether Hub +Mana Confluence -Mountain Valley +Riverglide Pathway  Flip -Simic Growth Chamber +Rootbound Crag -Mountain +Hinterland Harbor -Forest +Sulfur Falls -Mountain +Rejuvenating Springs -Path of Ancestry +Training Center -Rogue's Passage +Spire Garden -Ancient Ziggurat +Boseiju, Who Endures -Island

--Ramp-- Creature preferred +Birds of Paradise -Thought Vessel +Three Visits -Heraldic Banner +The Great Henge -Gilded Lotus (Also important for draw) +Farseek -Harvest Season

--Morph-- +Kadena's Silencer -Stuffy Doll +Icefeather Aven -Keep Safe (Morph flavor) +Echo Tracer -Omnath, Locus of Mana (Morph flavor) +Mistfire Weaver -Forsaken Monument (Morph flavor) +Jeering Instigator -Shaleskin Plower (Morph flavor less salt)

--Draw-- +Fathom Seer -Zendikar Resurgent +Temur Ascendancy -Tomb of the Spirit Dragon +Tishana, Voice of Thunder -Ashcloud Phoenix +Guardian Project -Tidespout Tyrant +Toski, Bearer of Secrets -Fabricate +Garruk's Uprising -Creeping Renaissance

--Offense other than Animar-- +Garruk's Horde -Forest +Artisan of Kozilek -Island +Bane of Bala Ged -Trophy Mage (Pulls 1 unneeded artifact!) +Shrieking Drake -Temur Sabertooth (Non-Infinite Ancestral Statue) +Decimator of the Provinces -Temur War Shaman

--Control-- +Beast Within -Fog

I've left out some salty card for this power level: Cyclonic Rift Ancestral Statue Craterhoof Behemoth Rhystic Study Mystic Remora Dockside Extortionist

Special mention (would need to playtest): Secret Plans (Draw) Solemn Simulacrum (Ramp & Draw) Mulldrifter (Draw) Trail of Mystery (Ramp) Rhythm of the Wild (Don't think you'll see heavy counterspell in power 5)

Could go more less if needed Theres other stuff I didn't suggest because of the morph theme, like Cloud of Faeries, Hullbreaker Horror, Fierce Empath etc.

Hopefully you find some useful ideas here.

Spirits on

1 year ago

Hey Zorke,

I have a Budget Animar deck built around morph.

Couple questions, first is what is the goal of the deck? Briefly looking, seems to be a Tuned (Mid) 5 or 6 deck, is your goal to stay around that or looking to build towards an Optimed (High) 7 or 8? It really will change what the recommendations are in terms of Land Base / Ramp Efficiency / Combo / Mana-Curve.

The obvious missing card here is Ancestral Statue. With Animar, Soul of Elements at 4 counters, he can make an infinitely large general just by repeatedly bouncing Ancestral Statue with itself. It also contributes to the infinite ETB triggers for things like Beast Whisperer and Purphoros, God of the Forge as examples. You have some non-morph in there, so I'm not sure its a flavor exclude, but maybe a no-combo exclude?

Keep in mind too that although Animar, Soul of Elements discounts the casting cost to play the morph face down, however, he doesn't discount the morph cost to flip them back up, so you have to selective on the morphs you choose, otherwise you lose the ability to activate their morph abilities.

There are some noteable ramp creatures missings, Birds of Paradise for sure, flying/ramp/animar counter, checks lots of boxes. Solemn Simulacrum can be decent ramp, he sticks with a 5/6 theme a bit tougher to find space in a 7/8 if that is the goal. Peregrine Drake is another notable ramp createure.

Heraldic Banner is a bit strange, name by volume, or for a majority of the flyers? I'm not sure. Something like Ornithopter of Paradise feels better even without haste/riot.

Dunno why Stuffy Doll would be in here, he needs either a Blazing Sunsteel or Ill-Tempered Loner  Flip to elminate a single opponent, so no highly efficient. You dont really have a way to retarget him either, even with a Blazing Sunsteel would need more creatures like Icefeather Aven or Echo Tracer. Not recommending, just saying without more bounce he just wasting a spot.

Aether Hub just seems like a bad City of Brass or Mana Confluence. There a lots of lands that would improve your deck, commander lands like Rejuvenating Springs/Training Center or fetch lands like Misty Rainforest/Wooded Foothills.

Unless Tidespout Tyrant is a favorite or something, his CMC is ridiculous and shouldn't be in there, Animar, Soul of Elements can't pay the .

Keep Safe isn't a modular counterspell. Just a plain Counterspell would be better. Depending on power level, there are 0 mana counterspells, 1 mana counterspells, and good 2 mana counterspells. Also, don't forget you have your morphs with counterspells.

Shaleskin Plower is a good example of a heavy morph cost, for an ability you dont really need.

Gilded Lotus isn't reduced by the general counters, not sure why we would want it.

Have lots more ideas, just need a deck goal point of reference to give some better recommendations.

lagotripha on $10 Controlled Burn, Arcane Edition! [UltraBudget]

1 year ago

Going into 3 colours on a budget can be tough, but there are some great options - Field of Ruin, Exotic Orchard, Aether Hub/Crumbling Vestige, etc. They aren't perfect, but a little planning can get them to stick.

The biggest thing I can offer is that splicing to arcane has various combos with 'copy spell with x cmc or less' effects. Izzet Guildmage+Desperate Ritual is traditional, but guildmage plays nice with everything else. Similarly, Sea Gate Stormcaller, Dual Strike etc.

With all of that said, I'd look at blue creatures - Delver of Secrets  Flip etc, with some etb effects like stormcaller, with Veil of Secrecy as protection rather than stretching to white.

lagotripha on Jeskai SuperFly

1 year ago

This is a nice list, superfriends/tokens is a neat strategy. I have a number of failed decks built around Blood Funnel to that effect - (its fun but I don't reccomend it).

On the playing 3 colours in budget modern; the reason Opt/Serum Visions effects are good is they help find lands in hands that would otherwise have problems. If you can play 'mono blue' until you hit three lands, you can go hard on islands and draw power as a kind of fixing.

You don't need to break the bank if you want to improve the manabase. It just takes a little tinkering.

If you can afford to delay coloured mana, Field of Ruin is both untapped, disruption and searches a basic turn 3+. Terramorphic Expanse is extra evolving wilds copies, but being all taplands is a major drawback. Aether Hub fixes mana once, before becoming colourless. Exotic Orchard has cheap copies out there, Prairie Stream is good if you are otherwise running/searching lots of basics, Interplanar Beacon does a lot in superfriends.

multimedia on Stomping Counters

2 years ago

Hey, I saw your forum topic asking for help.

The manabase and ramp/color fixing could use some tweaking, but more draw is really what your deck needs. That's the area of your deck to consider spending some on for improvements.

I choose these cards as suggested cuts because you have better cards that do the same or similar effects. More draw especially repeatable draw sources replacing some of this redundancy could help gameplay.


The manabase is overall good except the amount of Forests, which is too many. The ratio of color sources in the manabase is 28 green:16 white:16 red. 28 green is almost double amount of another color which is a little much. Forests are important, you want them as most lands, but I don't think you need 12 of them. Green one drop mana dorks are good, but I don't think only three of them are enough to play so many Forests to hinder the other colors in the chance that you have one in your opening hand with a Forest. Crop Rotation can get any land by sacing a Forest.

Some manabase problems are 12 Forests, the Slow Fetch lands, Aether Hub, Arctic Treeline and Highland Forest. 12 Forest reduces the color fixing from lands too much. Grasslands, Krosan Verge, Mountain Valley are too slow for what they do and are not needed because you have Marsh Flats and Windswept Heath.

Aether Hub is relying too much on three cards that proliferate or Aetherstorm Roc. Consistently Hub won't have enough energy to make colored mana. Arctic Treeline and Highland Forest are nice that they have basic land types, but you don't really need them because you have Shocks and Tangos.

Consider cutting some basic Forests for more budget lands that can make green or another color?

Making these lands changes can balance the ratio of color sources to 26 G:20 W:20 R. This balance keeps the amount of green close to what you have currently while increasing the amount of white and red. Of course most of these are the least expensive price playable lands that you could add. There's many others that are more price/better lands.

Good luck with your deck.

Unlife on Stomping Counters

2 years ago

Temple of Abandon, Temple of Plenty, Temple of Triumph, Brushland, Battlefield Forge, Karplusan Forest, Cragcrown Pathway  Flip, Needleverge Pathway  Flip, Branchloft Pathway  Flip could all fit into your manabase. I know you have a budget of about $5 per card, and i believe most of them other then Brushland are at or below that range.

I can see how heavily your deck is weighted toward green, but my instinct is that you have a lot of enter tapped lands that don't do anything when they enter tapped. Temples could at least provide 2 colors and scry you a card, but things like Grasslands don't thin out your deck enough to be worth losing a turn.

My recommendation is to cut 3 forests, Grasslands, Mountain Valley, Aether Hub, Alpine Meadow, Arctic Treeline, Highland Forest for the 3 temples, 3 pain and 3 pathways. With new caperna dropping, you can also cut a forest for Jetmir's Garden when its released.

Apologies for the wall of text, I hope it helps.

lagotripha on Grixis Cat Pact

2 years ago

Going into grixis without fetches needs a little tweaking to be reliable - missing your mana is a major issue. You have the card selection to help offset it, but a few tweaks would really help things, even on a serious budget.

Try to plan for the mana you need, right now its blue/red/black straight from the start. If instead you always needed blue turn one, blue turn two, then eventually black or red, you could plan your manabase to reflect that, with more blue lands then fixing for the final part. Its sometimes worth using 'worse spells' and delaying wincons just for the sake of easing mana concerns.

If you only ever need to cast 1 non black spell, Aether Hub is almost a perfect land. Field of Ruin is cheap hate that lets you do something when your mana is off that also fixes your mana. You won't be able to run more than three or so utility lands without making your mana even worse, but this one is worth it.

Mirrodin's Core is fine if you are happy taking a turn off, or playing at instant speed (like with say, blue cantrips and counterspells), while also being a second mana for Mana Leak etc.

This is the next part of the plan ;'pseudo' fixing - if you see a land of the right colour and put it in your hand, thats almost the same.

The rule of thumb is that for every 2 Serum Visions/Opt type 1 mana cantrip, you can cut a land. If you combine this with the earlier idea about planning your lands, you can go to mostly islands and dip into other colours later in the game far easier.

Finally, pact/harmless is a combo, which has a few other options - Aggressive Mining does a lot by giving backup combo options all in red, while some of the traditional combo setups are also ramp/fixing - I love Pentad Prism wherever a deck might go 'I pay 7 mana to win'. If you have a little artifact synergy, Chromatic Star, Sphere of the Suns or Prismatic Lens can work.

The rest is testing and experimenting. Good luck!

lagotripha on Modular explosion

2 years ago

Lands always need some tinkering - I like to think about it like this.

T1 you need green for hardened scales, no matter what. T2 you need white for creatures, most games Lategame you need red - your red creatures/spells can afford to wait as they are finishers.

This means green highest priority, white the next, then red/fixing splashed to turn on fling/shikari, finally utility lands.

The large number of colourless creatures means you can afford to have limited access to coloured mana, making things like Tendo Ice Bridge Crumbling Vestige or Aether Hub a little better than Mana Confluence type fixing. Which in turn makes filter lands less useful, but most of that just needs testing. I always end up with less utility lands than I want - you should be able to fit more with the colourless options.

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