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Whenever Martyr's Bond or another nonland permanent you control is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, each opponent sacrifices a permanent that shares a card type with it.
Martyr's Bond Discussion
1 month ago
Abzkaban this is essentially a revised version of my old ghave deck Tokens and Counters Everywhere, now outside of the obvious answer to some of your suggestions of "I don't have it and follow a build the deck you can play with brewing idea" (mainly the ballista, it came out when I was away from the game and I'm stuck hoping hangarback can do a close impression) I admit I love defending card choices (often it can drive me to want to change it up when I actually type it out) so here we go.
Though I will pause and say I honestly am not currently in any meta, it's usually a long drive to find anyone who's into commander and quite often the games I am in I have to carry many decks of varying strengths, my tasigur is aimed to be the high power deck while this one I'm more looking for something that is strong, but I can play it against non cedh people.
as for why Martyr's Bond over pact or dictate it's partially because I've made my mana base purposefully heavy in plains for the Emeria Shepherd Sakura-Tribe Elder combo and bond procs off itself, another reason it because quite often if I'm going to get a game of commander in I'll have to let people borrow from my decks, one of which is Sigarda, Host of Herons and yeah in the past someone borrowing a ghave deck would just clear the board of everything but the tron angel just making voltron strat stronger seeming than it really is. and now that I think about it there's a few Rest in Peace or leylines in some of the decks I have sleeved atm...
Now the undying creatures and persist ones are definitely interesting, but that level of tuning the deck likely will go for the higher power level and less the janky Doubling Season power level. I might look into it if I ever get to play paper mtg as much as I really want to.
the macabre was picked mostly just to be the surprise uncounterable gy hate that I can Haunted Crossroads back. though maybe I should put back the Knight of the Reliquary back in and add the bog over the archdruid, question is if I have a spare bog lying around.
1 month ago
Hey! Saw your deck posted before FLATSO99's and thought I'd comment since I also play Ghave.
First off I assume your goal with this deck is to play "fair" with a go-wide tokens and counters strategy with some options to win with a combo, but I'd like to offer my primer for you to take a look at and borrow anything you like. I go into detail the different combos you can get from Ghave and how they work as well as a list of combos found in my list.
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That being said, I have a few suggestions for how you can strengthen the deck even if you're not looking to combo off as soon as you can.
Your mana curve is a bit high, and I think you can cut some of the more mana-heavy cards to trim the deck and let it play more smoothly. For instance I see Butcher of Malakir but no Dictate of Erebos or Grave Pact . I understand if it's a budget problem, but I personally run Grave Pact thanks to it's lower cmc. Yes, Martyr's Bond does the same thing and even extends to permanents other than creatures, but I find it's not worth the mana cost. You could probably cut that one, too.
I know you mentioned Walking Ballista , and I eventually cut Triskelion in my own deck for it. It only needs an extra card (either a sac outlet or Blood Artist effect) to combo with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed which will still often be cheaper on the mana to cast than just Triskelion .
Unless you're building the deck around it, I'd cut anything with Landfall. It's almost never worth it if you're not making it a big theme in your deck.
I'm not a fan of Faerie Macabre . There are better cards for graveyard hate. Bojuka Bog comes to mind which you should run if you really need the grave hate. If you're insistent on having a spell fill that slot, Shred Memory is better as it also acts as a tutor for a 2 cmc card.
Pack Rat is unnecessary. I'd focus on the saproling tokens. You'll have better synergy in the deck that way.
I also don't think you're running enough elves to get the most out of Elvish Archdruid . I'd cut that in favor of other ramp. The ramp you have in the deck already is pretty good without him.
I notice you have Kitchen Finks which is an excellent combo piece, but have you considered running any undying creatures (besides the effect of Mikaeus, the Unhallowed )? I highly recommend Young Wolf as he's an easy route to getting as many tokens as you want. Strangleroot Geist or Butcher Ghoul can also be good. You could run more persist creatures if you like as well. I've liked having Puppeteer Clique and Woodfall Primus in my deck since if you can recur them over and over, you get some awesome effects. If you want cheap ones to play, Safehold Elite is a possibility, and Modern Masters now has Putrid Goblin which is basically Butcher Ghoul but with persist instead of undying.
Protean Hulk has been the center of most of my wins. Pattern of Rebirth is a quick way to cheat him out, but you should consider Natural Order as well since it gets the hulk out just as quickly. I see Karmic Guide , but I don't see Reveillark or Saffi Eriksdotter . I would highly recommend running at least one if not both of them. They create an endless recursion combo that lets you get everything back from your graveyard or trigger a Blood Artist effect to kill the table. Now I assume you use Leonin Relic-Warder with Karmic to go infinite. That's good, but I still say having the recursion availability to access your graveyard is a big advantage.
Anyway sorry for the super long comment. I just really like Ghave and wanted to leave some constructive criticism to help you with your deck. I generally prefer that kind of feedback myself. Hopefully this helps.
1 month ago
I hate to say this, but unless I am missing something, destroying your own lands while Martyr's Bond is out won't force your opponents to sacrifice lands as well, since it says whenever a nonland permanent is destroyed.
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Martyr's Bond would cause some serious damage to enemies
2 months ago
third pass -
- Nether Void
- Dictate of Erebos
- Grave Pact
- Martyr's Bond
- Stony Silence
- Pestilence Demon
- Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
- Iona, Shield of Emeria
- Ward of Bones
- Ensnaring Bridge
- Leovold, Emissary of Trest
- Back to Basics
- Hokori, Dust Drinker
- Mist of Stagnation
- Rising Waters
- Static Orb
- Tangle Wire
- Winter Orb
- Blood Moon
- Destructive Flow
- Land Equilibrium
- Magus of the Moon
- Mana Vortex
- Bottomless Pit
- Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
2 months ago
Second pass -
Nether Void Contamination Death Cloud Dictate of Erebos Grave Pact Sheoldred, Whispering One Tainted AEther Martyr's Bond Smokestack Stony Silence Words of Wind Embargo Painful Quandary Pestilence Pestilence Demon Pyrohemia Erayo, Soratami Ascendant Jace, Unraveler of Secrets Iona, Shield of Emeria Ward of Bones Ensnaring Bridge Silent Arbiter Leovold, Emissary of Trest Back to Basics Hokori, Dust Drinker Mist of Stagnation Rising Waters Stasis Static Orb Tangle Wire Winter Orb Blood Moon Destructive Flow Equipoise Land Equilibrium Magus of the Moon Mana Vortex Bottomless Pit Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur Mind Slash Oppression Cursed Totem Portcullis
Martyr's Bond occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%