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Tel-Jilad Stylus Discussion
4 months ago
Carnival of souls is quite the pick! I don't think I would run it, seems too easy to kill yourself. Though with enough aristocrats effects, I suppose you can get by.
In my grenzo deck I have about 20 non-creature cards. 2 of them inherently can be used in the graveyard and I decided on the others because I needed more interaction in the group I was playing against.
Out of those ones which you aren't running and I don't see in your maybe pile or deck that you should consider are:
Thran Turbine essentially a sol ring that you can use only during your upkeep on grenzo
Elixir of Immortality a way to protect your graveyard from someone trying to exile it
Desecrated Tomb makes each successful grenzo activation net you a Bat
Tel-Jilad Stylus lets you do 2 things -- repeat an etb of a creature already out, protect a creature from being interacted with. You can even activate grenzo and then use this in response to avoid targeted destruction. I've used this thing on Faceless Butcher to save grenzo from boardwipes.
Dark Privilege lets you block most creatures with grenzo, use it as a sac outlet and increases his power and toughness by 1. It also avoids lots of targeted removal, though not the most popular boardwipes.
Songs of the Damned depending on where the game is, this can be worse than dark ritual or net you 10 mana.
I would additionally suggest giving
a spin because it is some very good disruption, removes enchantments and lands. If you're lucky it can be a red timewalk due to bringing in the lands untapped.
A land you might want is Scorched Ruins . As far as you are concerned, once grenzo is out, this is like playing 2 lands for one. though there are obviously downsides.
My mana base consists of 36 lands and 12 creatures that produce mana, or in the case of
You have 6 out of the 12, and are running palladium myr which isn't a bad pick and I honestly forgot about it. The 5 which I haven't mentioned are Basal Thrull , Generator Servant , Treasure Nabber , Blood Vassal and Catalyst Elemental . With the exception of Nabber, they all replace themselves manawise due to generation 2 mana. I would avoid putting in manadorks that do not make 2 or more mana.
You might additionally want to consider
which lets you recur creatures or disrupts someone else's grave.
Since a grenzo deck usually does not cast that many spells, you can try throwing in some asymmetrical effects, such as
Eidolon of the Great Revel
to leverage that, though with the direction your deck is currently in, that doesn't seem necessary.
Additionally Shrieking Mogg can be used both offensively and defensively. If you know it's on the bottom, you can tap down an opponent before their declare attackers step. If it's your turn, tap down their creatures during your declare attackers step and all of their blockers will be tapped. It also neatly fits into the goblin theme you already have present.
8 months ago
This is very cool. Thoughts on these? Maskwood Nexus , Illusionist's Bracers , Open the Armory , Steelshaper's Gift , Inventors' Fair , Scuttlemutt , Smothering Tithe , Pariah's Shield , Tel-Jilad Stylus , Slate of Ancestry
9 months ago
also, rather than despotic scepter, try Tel-Jilad Stylus - it lets you tuck the card instead, and has no mana activation cost
1 year ago
Looks good! You might like these: Heartstone, Illusionist's Bracers, Braid of Fire, Soldevi Digger, Tel-Jilad Stylus, The Cauldron of Eternity, Teferi's Puzzle Box, Herald of Leshrac, Ignition Team, Noosegraf Mob, Thief of Blood, Treasonous Ogre, Archetype of Finality, Temple of Malice, Pitiless Plunderer, Pawn of Ulamog
1 year ago
I'm still editing the deck, but Queen_Lulu, the combos work like this.
Dark-Dweller Oracle, Conspicuous Snoop, Torch Courier (Have to put into the deck), Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Sling-Gang Lieutenant/Mogg Fanatic. (If it's Doomsday you can put the top two cards on the bottom and activate Grenzo, Dungeon Warden and you would get a similar result.)
Find a way to draw a card, then play Dark-Dweller Oracle. Activate it once (for now), and play Conspicuous Snoop. Using the Conspicuous Snoop, play Torch Courier, and sacrifice it targeting Conspicuous Snoop. Now Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is on the top of your library. Conspicuous Snoop has Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker's ability, and has haste thanks to the Torch Courier. Activate the Conspicuous Snoop/Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to make a copy of itself. (It's a non-legendary permanent.) The copy will be untapped, and you can make infinite tokens. Finally, use Dark-Dweller Oracle one last time to get rid of Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker. With Sling-Gang Lieutenant/Mogg Fanatic on the top of the library, you can use any Conspicuous Snoop to gun down your opponents.
Combo 3) Play the Snoop and Boggart Harbinger. The Harbinger will put Kiki on top, combo off, then use the last untapped Snoop to copy the Harbinger and put the Lieutenant/Fanatic on the top to win.
A good thing about the last combo it that there is a failsafe in case you somehow get Kiki onto the battlefield. If you have Tel-Jilad Stylus, plus the Snoop and the Harbinger, use Kiki to copy the Harbinger, but with that ability on the stack, use the Stylus to put Kiki on the bottom of your library, and then the Harbinger will tutor Kiki to the top.
2 years ago
I also like the Workhorse/Reito Lantern idea. It didn't make sense at first glance, and then I'm like... OHHHHH....
Awesome suggestions, and I will absoultely test them. Ordering all the card tonight. I have the lantern in already from a previous tweak that I never updated. Will refresh my list this week. Thanks!
2 years ago
Hello! Have you considered Workhorse ? It's amazing with something that can amazing with something like Reito Lantern . Also please consider Tel-Jilad Stylus . I built a Grenzo (power 3<) and it works wonders. Particularly for your deck, you can use tel-jilad to put Grenzo on the bottom after you activate Grenzo to return him to the battlefield as a 'makeshift' flicker.
2 years ago
Thanks for all the feedback, multimedia.
Tel-Jilad Stylus absolutely belongs in this deck. I can't believe I don't have one in my collection. Need to get one. It can easily replace Vessel of Endless Rest , but note that the Vessel was there for its ability to move something back to the library and less for its mana ability.
I agree on the baubles. The deck has so little card draw, that's really the only reason for them to be in there, but they could go.