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, Exile two creature cards in a single graveyard from the game: Put a 1/1 green Saproling creature token into play.
Night Soil Discussion
5 days ago
Cool idea for a deck! I think you could try to build around your commander even more.
In your mana base, a very easy inclusion would be all the cycling lands. Desert of the Fervent , Desert of the Indomitable, Tranquil Thicket , Slippery Karst and Smoldering Crater are great for Gruul decks to have anyways because of the lack of card draw and they work super well with your commander.
All the Dredge stuff would be great in the deck. You already have Brownscale, but you could use Shenanigans (there's always a target), Moldervine Cloak and Greater Mossdog all give you consistent action in the late game that will also power up your damage.
There are tons of self-mill cards that are worth running for card advantage. Lead the Stampede , Beast Hunt , Benefaction of Rhonas , Commune with the Gods , Kruphix's Insight , Scout the Borders all work at varying degrees of efficiency. If you ran a few more enchantments (which wouldn't be hard to do), this could actually be a great way to stock your graveyard and give you tons of action throughout the game.
With that in mind, almost every Flashback card is probably worth running. Same goes with Retrace and Jump-Start. These will give you so many options over the course of the game and be an extension to your hand.
Book Burning Targeting yourself is a pretty good way to stock the graveyard quickly, unless an opponent wants to take 6, which is also nice.
Chainflinger is decent in PDH and would fit nicely in a deck like yours.
Firebolt is very good in general and gets even better if you're milling it into your graveyard.
Fortitude can make a big creature a bigger problem and feed your graveyard lands.
Mother Bear seems like a good fit, like most cards that generate value in the graveyard.
Elven Cache is a great card to have in green PDH. It doesn't cost you a draw like Reclaim does, which justifies the mana cost, in my opinion.
Is Renewal to janky? Cantripping and fixing your mana might not be worth 3 mana, but it does move your gameplan forward somewhat.
A lot of the cards in your maybeboard are cards I think you should actually play. Excavating Anurid is quite strong. A 5/5 vigilance that cantrips at almost no downside for you is really good. Igneous Elemental is comparable to Flametongue Kavu in many scenarios. All your burn and removal that requires sacrificing creatures or lands is also good for your game plan. Quicksand has no downside in your mana base.
In general, I think having more creature-based ramp might be better than sorcery or artifact ones, unless they sac lands. Rampant Growth, Land Grant, Search for Tomorrow, Renegade Map and Armillary Sphere seem like they would be stronger as mana dorks. Zhur-Taa Druid and Silhana Starfletcher are both cards that do a lot of work in PDH, plus all the typical 1-mana ramp creatures in Green.
Otherwise, I think Diligent Farmhand and Muscle Burst is cute, but not very effective overall.
Chain Lightning and Lightning Bolt are oddly enough not impactful enough to play in PDH, in my opinion. I would vastly prefer Staggershock over either one for the better damage output or card advantage potential. These could be easy subsitutes for some of your maybeboard spells.
A lot of your creatures are aggressive, but not enough to really be pertinent in a game with 30-40 life (depending on how you play). Borderland Marauder, Burning-Tree Emissary, Moldgraf Scavenger, Zectar Shrine Expedition and to a certain extent even Scythe Tiger could be better as more resilient, synergistic or more powerful threats that scale better with all the ramping you're doing. Something like Sprout Swarm is a classic game-winning card that is good across the entirety of the game and works well with sac effects you're running.
Last thing: I think you should run more lands. I get that you're trying to be low to the ground and aggressive, but running a low land count hurts you in a lot of ways. It makes less opening hands keepable, it restricts the breadth of finishers you can use, it lowers the efficiency of your commander and cards like Winding Way and can even result in you running out of basics to fetch in the mid-to-late game. I think 38-40 lands would be a more appropriate number.
Again, great idea for a deck and I'm looking forward to hearing more about how you do with it. Is it more for 1-on-1 play or multiplayer?
3 months ago
I think you need more token producers that double as manasinks. Using Radha-ability mana on cards feels like you'll end up overextending fast. Centaur Glade is not bad. Dragon Roost is expensive but may work. Myr Matrix is resilient. Night Soil doubles as GY hate. Ant Queen , Jade Mage , Soul of Zendikar etc.
5 months ago
5 months ago
Beast Whisperer seems like a solid inclusion here!
You also seem to have a number of sources here, so maybe Karametra's Acolyte could be worth it?
Ulvenwald Tracker could also be sweet.
Night Soil is nice if you have some GY decks to hate on.
Earthcraft could also be good (if you plan on sinking some coin into this)
6 months ago
You can certainly make it a viable deck without sinking Doubling Season money into it or turning it into a deck whose only goal is to Demonic Tutor into a combo. There's a lot of good stuff in here to build on.
Hardened Scales rounds out your Corpsejack Menace/Snek package.
You could probably lean a little into Saprolings, as well. Psychotrope Thallid is great card draw when your Commander makes Saprolings. Utopia Mycon is great for ramp. Tendershoot Dryad is a great lord for going wide. Night Soil , Saproling Burst , Verdant Embrace , Fertile Imagination , Fungal Sprouting , Scatter the Seeds , and Saproling Symbiosis are solid token producers. That last one is expensive, but I thought I'd just put it out there since it's old af.
As for cuts, if you're not doing broken combo things, Spikes are not good. Cruel Sadist , Sylvan Hierophant , Consuming Vapors , Heirloom Blade , Clockwork Vorrac , and Underworld Connections could probably be cut on card quality, alone.
passascats on Slimer
7 months ago
This looks like a pretty solid list. A lot of the tweaks are going to depend on personal preference.
Here are some cards to consider:
Sprout Swarm can be really good leading into a big turn. With convoke and buy back this card can bring a lot of value.
Attrition is both a sac outlet and a way to clear threats on the board.
You might want to consider some of the bigger saproling producers so you have plenty of ammo for slimefoot. Sporemound , Thelonite Hermit , and Verdeloth the Ancient .
Cards to consider replacing:
Birds of Paradise is not really good in EDH, it's not bad, it is just ok. for ramp consider the signet.
Tormod's Crypt is kind of situational, graveyard hate is not always needed. I would consider Night Soil or Necrogenesis to add to your saprolings instead.
Doomblade, one more mana for a Hero's Downfall or a Never/Return is better bet.
Tainted Strike is dirty, and we usually don't play dirty, but it's your call.
7 months ago
I ran Lost in the Woods in an earlier rendition of the deck and dropped it due to the inconsistency and constantly losing good cards to the bottom of my library.
Night Soil is interesting and I might play around with it. The upside to Scavenging Ooze is the potential lifegain and it can target noncreature cards. We have a Bruna deck that runs rampant some games and taking out a crap ton of enchantments out of that graveyard has been awesome.
Predator, Flagship is kinda neat, but really mana intensive, so I doubt it'll find a home here.
I do like Arena and will playtest it though. Thanks for the suggestions!
7 months ago
Love khamal. best wrath insurance green can buy.
"I cast Wrath of God !"
"I animate all your lands."
"one sided Armagedon isn't too funny, is it?"
odd card options you may not have considered:
Lost in the Woods provides recurring fog effect (although not consistantly), along with giving some tuck as needed
Fade into Antiquity may be slower than instant speed, but it exiles instead of tucking
Night Soil exiles as part of the cost, meaning that the creature removal cannot be responded to.
cross reference for my green deck if you are interested - No Meats Allowed
Night Soil occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%