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Suspend 3— (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. when the last is removed, cast it without paying its mana cost.)
: Gain one mana of any colour.
Mox Tantalite Discussion
2 days ago
could Mox Tantalite be an addition? not great for the storm count after Nauseam but 0 cost ramp for Nauseam
JW398 on UW Belcher
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
I'm afraid I don't have anything constructive to add beyond what SynergyBuild said.
1 month ago
I'm trying to build an hardened scales deck. Sadly I can't and I'll never be able to afford any Mox Opal . I already own almost all of the cards and I'm looking for a budget replacement for MO. I know it will never be the same power level, so please avoi comments like "don't play the deck without it" or "there is no replcement". One thing I was thinking is Mox Tantalite .
1 month ago
Narset, Parter of Veils is a great way to limit your competitive opponents. Especially if you pair her with a well-timed Windfall . Ashiok, Dream Render happens to be another way to punish people for playing tutor-tribal kinds of strategies.
Another hallmark of competitive decks is their ramp, especially zero and two-mana. In your description, you say you want to stay budget -- unfortunately, that rules out about all of the good zero mana ramp. ( Mox Tantalite is bad, and Mox Amber is hardly better most of the time.) So I suggest increasing your two-mana ramp, and maybe including Ancient Tomb if at all possible to speed up their presence on the board. Some to consider: Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Hierarchy , Talisman of Dominance , Coldsteel Heart , Fellwar Stone , Mind Stone , Everflowing Chalice , Prismatic Lens , etc. None of these should be more than a few bucks.
Concerning your lands: I think you're running too many, especially if you add some of the ramp mentioned in (3). I'd cut four-ish, maybe five. Generally, once you have a few (3 - 4) lands, you'd rather have a rock and a land in hand than just two lands, since you can cast the rock without using your land-drop. I'm not sure HOW budget you want to keep this deck, but Mana Confluence and City of Brass are each around $10, and they're great in any three or more color deck. Pain lands ( Caves of Koilos , Adarkar Wastes and Underground River ) are better than your tapped lands like Sejiri Refuge , as far as I can tell.
I think a reanimation package is probably better than running Show and Tell . Show and Tell is symmetrical, and is often actively dangerous to resolve in EDH, when everyone is trying to do busted stuff. I'm much more a fan of Buried Alive and Entomb to get your fatties in the bin, and then using Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead , Reanimate and/or Necromancy (which is $$$ for some reason) to get them back.
Tutors like your Demonic Tutor are good, but like zero mana rocks they tend to be pricy (see Vampiric Tutor and Enlightened Tutor ). One I do suggest is Lim-Dul's Vault , which is only a couple dollars these days. It also happens to be instant speed, which is kinda dumb-powerful, if you ask me.
Cumulative upkeep was designed to make powerful effects transient; however, Aminatou, the Fateshifter sorta changes that equation with her -1. Consider cards like Mystic Remora , which you can blink to keep around relatively indefinitely. Similar cards to consider are: Musician , Phyrexian Etchings , Tidal Control and Infernal Darkness (if you're particularly mean).
Divining Witch is interesting -- I'd actually never seen that card before. If you're trying to exile your deck and win with your Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , I think Demonic Consultation is probably a better way... though you might want to keep both. Another method (that I think is worse) is to use the card Doomsday , which is only a few dollars. The problem is that if you run Doomsday , you'd likely want to run a Doomsday -package, so you could win by just casting it and drawing into your top card... For that, I'd suggest talking to someone smarter than me, as I've never been able to get the hang of what the hell is going on with that strategy. All I know is that the package usually has something like Gitaxian Probe and Lotus Petal and ends with me being dead.
You may have good luck with card draw spells. Repeatable effects, like Phyrexian Arena and/or Dark Confidant , tend to be expensive; luckily, the spell versions are often decidedly less so. I suggest running a few or more of the following: Painful Truths , Night's Whisper , Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time (running both can be tough since delve can get in its own way), Fact or Fiction , Thirst for Knowledge , Concentrate , Chemister's Insight , Oona's Grace (questionable, due to the high mana requirement), Ancient Excavation (good with the reanimation mentioned in (5)), Archmage's Charm , Chart a Course , Syphon Mind , Deep Analysis and/or Words of Wisdom -- pay extra attention to the instants you can cast on an opponents end step. Another way to do this is simply to steal your opponents' card draw with Notion Thief or Plagiarize .
Lastly, I know its around $11 these days, but I think Counterbalance would be dumb in this deck. Using your general's +1 will let you stack whatever you want on top, which can be especially devastating if you can keep an opponent's general off the board that way.
Good luck man! Love this deck.
2 months ago
Since this list is really about ramping, I suggest you change the parameters and/or title to include non-creature ramp spells and also creatures and spells that reduce casting costs, which are all just as useful. If this is somehow too impure for your list, I'd be happy to start my own. Just let me know! Here's a few off the top of my head (some are actual dork creatures you're currently missing): Cabal Stronghold , Smothering Tithe , Paradise Mantle , Springleaf Drum , Utopia Sprawl , Fertile Ground , Dawn's Reflection , Market Festival , Weirding Wood , Overgrowth , Wild Growth , Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip, Explore , Harvest Season , Pyretic Ritual , Geosurge , Black Lotus , Mox Opal , Mox Amber , Mox Tantalite , Rosheen Meanderer , Gargos, Vicious Watcher , Heartless Summoning , Growth Spiral , Incubation Druid , Harabaz Druid , Savage Ventmaw
2 months ago
Hey Daevied, So finding replacements for cost artifacts is pretty tough, as all the good ones are kind of expensive. So, rather than go with the "very best" why don't we look at some less optimal options: Mox Tantalite is definitely one of the less powerful moxes, but it's still a mox! Additionally, you could try your luck with Astral Cornucopia and/or Everflowing Chalice . Of the bunch I mentioned, I'd go with the Tantalite and the Chalice if you had to stick with mana rocks. You'd probably be better off with ramp though. Kodama's Reach and Cultivate are excellent options in my opinion.
Hope that answers your question! Also, your English is really good!
2 months ago
Uhm, well, like most Mox Opal decks, there isn't really a great substitute in terms of power. I'd up the land count slightly and try Izzet Signet and Dimir Signet but just remember that you're going to be slower than you would with the Opal. Really the deck will still have turn 4 wins without Opal, so it's not the end of the world to go without if you aren't grinding tournaments.
You could also try Mox Tantalite and/or Lotus Bloom , which are still slower but can give you the boost of mana in time for the fourth turn, which is generally when you'll combo off. I'd lean towards Lotus Bloom if I was trying those.
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