Llanowar Visionary

Creature — Elf Druid

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Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (38)

DreadKhan on Muldrotha Mill

6 months ago

Any reason you're not running land ramp effects? This is the most resilient form of ramp in Commander, very few decks target lands. There are permanents you can recast, like Wayfarer's Bauble, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Dawntreader Elk, Diligent Farmhand, Wight of the Reliquary, maybe Path of Annihilation? There is always Wood Elves and it's ilk. I feel like you could shave a few lands for land ramp effects, it's a good way to test them out and see if you enjoy the acceleration vs drawing so many lands.

You should also look at cards that help 'grease the wheels' of the deck, things like Llanowar Visionary and Elvish Visionary offer a body while drawing a card, and fwiw later on if you have nothing better to do you can just draw a card via Muldrotha. On that note, you might like small permanents that draw, there is trusty old Urza's Bauble, as well as Mishra's Bauble, if you don't run many artifacts then you should use these as good recast targets. Technically the info can be useful, but you mostly want them for free card draw.

I don't know if they're strong enough for your meta, but I used to love the old Seal of Removal family cards when I wanted small Enchantments. The others that might apply are Seal of Primordium and Seal of Doom, Doom is a lot of mana, but repeatable Artifact/Enchantment hate can be pretty helpful.

If you want to mill yourself you might like Altar of Dementia. This Altar can also be a wincon with a big enough creature, like Lord of Extinction or Consuming Aberration, or if you have a big enough board of smaller stuff. It's especially useful if people are going to hit you with a Farewell, this can let your creatures go to the graveyard for recursion while also milling someone (maybe you, maybe an opponent).

DreadKhan on Going beyond 40 lands if …

6 months ago

I think I largely agree with lukecwolf, you need a very good reason to want to run more than about 35 lands, depending on your colour you almost certainly have SOME options for cheap card draw effects, and in most games you'd rather see these than extra lands later, stuff like Sign in Blood and Spirited Companion/Elvish Visionary/Humble Defector help grease hands where you drew either a bit fewer or a bit more land than is ideal, these will make sure you're not stuck when drawing another land in it's place would only help when you have too few lands (and would be brutal if you had extra).

If the Jund deck you're talking about is your Mr Orfeo deck, I think you have too many lands for your average MV, I'd definitely run more land ramp spells (to generate faster/more consistent hands, land ramp can fix too), there are even some janky options like Dire-Strain Rampage and Road / Ruin that offer you combination ramp and removal, there are others that provide blockers (like Wood Elves and Farhaven Elf), just running this many lands makes me fear land floods. For the record, if you've got access to Green you probably shouldn't bother with most of the artifact ramp, Nature's Lore and Three Visits are much better than any of those, especially since they can find non-Basics. The other thing your deck should look at is stuff like Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Humble Defector, and Llanowar Visionary/Elvish Visionary, these often play better than more lands. I guess the final thought would be you can sneak some MDFCs in to replace generic lands, the new Stump Stomp  ^Flip would probably be handy in your list for example, and I think most decks that can run Bala Ged Recovery  ^Flip and Valakut Awakening  ^Flip should do so, ymmv on others. At 40 lands I'd straight up shave lands for MDFCs.

I like Bounce Lands in decks that have shaved a few lands, they give you another land drop, but they do make you VERY vulnerable to anyone crazy enough to run Dwarven Miner/Dwarven Blastminer, so keep that in mind I guess? Most people don't use stuff like that in Commander, it's considered anti-social by a plurality of the format, but you might see a Strip Mine, but most people would rather keep their Strip Mine for something like Gaea's Cradle than spend it on a Guildless Commons. I would say with some confidence that you can probably shave a land for every 2 Bounce Lands you replace normal lands with, but I doubt I'd go over 4 or 5 in a deck.

jonjonhholt on Mono Green Elves

1 year ago

love elves! has Llanowar Visionary felt good in play? i think its a really strong card but i feel like elves is so fast it might be a bit out of tune. also a huge fan of all of ur 1 drop mana dorks i think i need more of them in my elves list. btw Winding Way is another effect similar to Lead the Stampede as is You Meet in a Tavern but you may prefer Lead the Stampede.

JoosetheMuice on Gnoming on that green mana

2 years ago

Really love how this deck played last time. Some potential suggestions (not even necessary really) but anyway:

Titan of Industry serves the double purpose of artifact/enchantment removal and protection for Omntah.

Triplicate Titan as another late bomb for your top end.

Noxious Revival could be an interesting way to get omnath back cheap, but also has other versatility to grab your own creatures or stall an opponent with a bad draw in a tight situation.

Lesser stuff that could maybe work

Llanowar Visionary could be low-key good here as it replaces itself.

Squall Line if you think you need it, could be good to clear annoying creatures and win late game if u have a mana store.

Blackblade Reforged it's budget and could give the Nath a big punch late game.

Slashdance on Forest Tribal, LoL

2 years ago

Thank you, both Basshunter & SufferFromEDHD

I may use Gaea's Touch, I think I have one if I search through green box.

I have a love/hate relationship with level-up cards. I love the idea, hate it when I actually play them, so I'm not so sure I'll use Joraga Treespeaker. I have her in my Elfball deck, but it's so mana hungry I rarely get past the first level. In this deck, Llanowar Visionary has a place with the early card draw along with ramp, and Devoted Druid is here for even faster mana ramp that doesn't require additional mana pumped into her to get an extra early green mana. I can also drop a +1 counter on her to reset, and I don't care if she dies because she's coming back (or will eventually come back). Joraga just wants too much from me when I want to cast other things early in the game. YMMV

Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth is indeed good. When I get one, I'll probably add it in, maybe in place of Mosswort Bridge.

Mana Web is brutal, indeed. I'd probably only use it if I wanted to play with a more competitive pod or in a tournament. It's great, but maybe a bit hardcore to play with friends. Although I do have a buddy that loves his $12 counter spell deck that this would be great against, lol. It's situational, for me, based on power level or deck types I expect to play against.

Hidden Path and Nature's Cloak could both be great, and almost feel like cheating in a deck like this, lol. If I find that I can't get my creatures through reliably, I might just do this. However, one of the beauties of this deck is that you almost WANT to get blocked a lot of the time. If I'm attacking with a boatload of lands, and my commander is out, I want my opponent to block so I can kill of his smaller creatures. I want him to make decisions. And I don't care if my Forests die, as they're coming right back to the table ... Untapped and ready to block for me (to which they can die again, come back, and by my turn have lost summoning sickness and I'm ready to read & repeat). By having Forestwalk, I get more damage in, sure ... but I lose my pseudo Vigilance that's built in with the recursion that makes this deck fun. So, for now, I keep the Forestwalk out. That said, I'm more likely to want a sorcery/instant for Forestwalk for a surprise win condition, such as Nature's Cloak.

Scarwood Bandits is always fun. However, it doesn't have much synergy with the deck and I would prefer the deck to stay more focused. Lots of fun cards in green to toss in for flavor, though, and this would be great if I went on a little tangent.

Basshunter on Forest Tribal, LoL

2 years ago

Hi, really enjoyed this one - like the idea!

you could think about:

Gaea's Touch - strong in every mono green deck and perfectly fits in a forest tribal

Joraga Treespeaker - imo better than Llanowar Visionary or Devoted Druid

thijmnesoy on Can You Smell What the Rock is Cooking..In Pauper?

3 years ago

edit to previous comment: or even Llanowar Visionary

Niob_Mordodrukow on Fast Animar

3 years ago

Made some changes. - Coiling Oracle since it costs 2 color mana, and we dont have much lands to abuse his landdrop ability.

• Destiny Spinner since Rhythm of the wild included now, and also we have Veil of Summer and Cavern.

• Elvish Visionary for Llanowar Visionary.

• Lotus Cobra for Tireless Provisioner, because elf and treasures are better in most cases.

• Slithermuse, because depends on opponents hand a lot.

• Soul of the Harvest, since we have a lot of those effects anyway (i concider Vizier and Augur as those effects also).

• Stratus Dancer, because it is a 2 mana counterspell just for sorcery or instant. It is good, but free counters are better.

• Wall of Roots, because 2 mana dork, giving only 1 mana per turn, and it is not even an elf.

• Hardened Scales, because we dont have much creatures requiring tons of counters (In fact, it is two eldrazi and ballista. Everything else works well without this card), and it is better to have some card which does something useful instead.

• Exotic Orchard, because sometimes will not give us correct color.

• Flooded Grove, because filters can be bad sometimes.

• 2x Island, cause we needed 2 more slots.

Now i wanna check how good is Rhythm of the Wild and return Destiny Spinner if it is not. And also find a slot for Ramunap Excavator, since we have 9 fetchlands and Lotus Field