Jace, Wielder of Mysteries

Legendary Planeswalker — Jace

If you would draw a card while your library has no cards in it, you win the game instead.

+1: Target player puts the top two cards of their library into their graveyard. Draw a card.

-8: Draw seven cards. Then if your library has no cards in it, you win the game.

NinjaBunny01 on The Immortal King: The Fable of Oloro [cEDH]

1 week ago

Hi wideline1414! Right now, I am trying it out. It does have a few synergies with my Commander and a few cards in the deck. If I were to add back in Drogskol Reaver it would cause an infinite loop that would deck myself. If I had Jace, Wielder of Mysteries out at that time, it would be an instant win most likely. I don't know if Queza will stay in at this moment, just trying it out for now.

Cirdan13 on Card creation challenge

2 weeks ago

Douse The Flames


Counter target red spell that targets a creature you control or destroy target Chandra planeswalker.

"When I am through with you, ash is all... nevermind." -- Chandra Nalaar

Make a card that counters the effects of Laboratory Maniac and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries so that your opponent still loses. Bonus if it can work against Thassa's Oracle as well.

TheoryCrafter on Streets of New Capenna

1 month ago

I haven't seen the cards and the lore match up this poorly since War of the Spark. The art is pretty good, though.

No 3 color Alternate win card. I feel cheated.

5 demons....a set where demons run crime families and only 5... and the two for my chosen color scheme too expensive manawise...why did you even bother wizards?

If you run monowhite angels or look to put your standard angel cards to work until autumn, don't sleep on Giada. Especially with MirrorBox.

Angel of Despair is gonna be good with Mortal Combat, Syr Konrad, the Grim and Wheel of Sun and Moon. Also makes Dimir self mill a thing when combined with Laboratory Maniac, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and/or Thassa's Oracle.

Luxior doesn't specify that the planeswalker turned creature is Legendary. Does that mean I can have another planeswalker of the same name and type on the battlefield as long as Luxior is attached to the other?

Virlym on Yuriko, Shadow of Fate EDH

2 months ago

"This is really fantastic discussions, appreciate it, hopefully not consuming too much of your time :)" I enjoy talking about EDH, and intricate things about it, so I don't mind the small time consumption needed for the longer replies. :)

I've been playing EDH since it was introduced (back when you had to pick an elder dragon as the general, I had a Nicol Bolas deck as my first). Having said that, my group of friends really just liked being able to do big flashy things with cards that normally didn't see much play. So the power levels generally range from 5-8, we also don't really play too much counter magic either. We tend to let people do their splashy things so they can have fun, and interact when it would end the game (counters are really just held for game ending infinite loops, hence the earlier mentions of Trickbind and Angel's Grace as those are common includes to stop combos with split second).

Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow is also a really cool commander in that it can be built for nearly any power level. So I generally try to help people out with it, but I usually only point out potential problems as I don't want to suggest it into a power level that's not the aim (or just mention some cards to start a discussion or new line of thought). Having said that, I would HIGHLY suggest making room for Cephalid Coliseum if you are playing in a group that utilizes the Thassa's Oracle line. If they aren't running a deck designed around decking themselves and have Laboratory Maniac and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries as back-ups, you can KO them yourself if they try to win with just Thassa's Oracle (not many people will have counters for activated land abilities).

They play Thassa's Oracle, trigger on the stack, they play Demonic Consultation. With Demonic Consultation on the stack maybe there's some counter magic going on to try and stop it, but you can just sit there. The Demonic Consultation resolves and they have no library. While the Thassa's Oracle ability is still on the stack, you activate Cephalid Coliseum, making THEM draw, and lose.

mach56gs on I haven't the faintest Notion...

2 months ago

You may have noticed I've liked elementals. Anyhow....

What's the catch?

Morophon, the Boundless + Fist of Suns = All Elements in Hand Free-Cast

Morophon(Moro) + Fist of Suns(Fos)+ Yarok, the Desecrated/Panharmonicon(Double ETB) + AEthersnipe (Bounce) = Bounce all permanents, OR infinitely play any elemental spell on hand/field = enabling unlimited ETB effects.


Moro + Fos + Double ETB + Bounce + Risen Reef/Cloudkin Seer/Cavalier of Thorns = Draw/Mill all cards in deck for self mill. Note, not actually a wincon yet. Consider Jace, Wielder of Mysteries? Feels more win-more, though. Any of these milling processes will probably lead to the following loops:

Moro + Fos + Double ETB + Bounce + Foundation Breaker = I hate artifacts + enchantments, grr!

Moro + Fos + Double ETB + Bounce + Avenger of Zendikar/Scampering Scorcher = Infinite Plants or 1/1 hasty elementals

Moro + Fos + Double ETB + Bounce + Blasting Station/Omnath, Locus of the Roil/Warstorm Surge = Ping enemies to death

Moro + Fos + Double ETB + Muldrotha + Bounce = All Elements (and lands) in Hand + Graveyard Castable

General Gameplan:

Have a number of 4fun cascade cards to help cheat creatures + churn through the deck and get out expensive bodies. Horde of Notions acts as a great toolbox and helps set up some of these combos.

Thinking of: Yarok's Wavecrasher to provide another piece to enable the infinite loop.

AcidicArisato on Principle of Control

2 months ago

For stealing your opponents' cards, I'd recommend Xanathar, Guild Kingpin as a back-up Sen. Celestial Dawn is also an auto-include in Sen decks.

If you want stax pieces, Drannith Magistrate, Nevermore, and Wash Away are great ways to stop your opponent from casting their commanders.

Aura of Silence is handy for taking care of pesky enchantments and can slow down their plans. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver and Bojuka Bog are handy pieces of graveyard hate, with the latter being a free-roll in your deck.

Scheming Symmetry is HILARIOUS with Aven Mindcensor and Opposition Agent. Leonin Arbiter also goes nicely with it.

Fatespinner is nasty and can functionally lock opponents out of combat. Rhystic Study is an auto-include in these types of decks.


In terms of win-cons, you could go with the Mindcrank combo: Mindcrack + Duskmantle Guildmage. Use Ghoulcaller's Bell to start the process without damage. Syr Konrad, the Grim is also good for redundancy.

There's also any number of combos involving Laboratory Maniac, Thassa's Oracle, and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. Use Demonic Consultation on your upkeep and name a card not in your deck to win on your draw step.

If you have a high enough density of creatures, Mortal Combat is a very simple way to win. With enough artifacts, Mechanized Production can be a free-roll. Revel in Riches is a very simple way of creating mana, with the upside of occasionally winning you the game (also pairs well with Spell Swindle.) Felidar Sovereign is also a hilarious.


If you're looking to make opponents struggle by dismantling their pieces, you should absolutely have pieces like Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Vanishing Verse, and maybe even Generous Gift in addition to boardwipes like Farewell, Tragic Arrogance, Cataclysm, and Wrath of God.

EVEN-ELITE on Neon Gitaxias Evangelion [Primer WIP]

3 months ago

Have you considered Thought Lash? It's an alternate method of winning with Jace, Wielder of Mysteries or Thassa's Oracle.

DawnsRayofLight on Neon Gitaxias Evangelion [Primer WIP]

3 months ago

Since you're already running Sensei's Top and The Reality Chip (Mystic Forge also works) , you might as well run Etherium Sculptor and/or Foundry Inspector for an infinite combo. You can run Aetherflux Reservoir, Hullbreaker Horror and/or Tidespout Tyrant, and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and/or Thassa's Oracle to combo with it as well. Jace and Thassa work with other combos you run (infinite mana plus BSZ or making sure you don't somehow kill yourself with enter the infinite).

I keep forgetting Vedalken Shackles exists!! totally adding that to my Urza list. I may also need to think about the omniscience and enter the infinite combo. I think the new Jin is going to be strong, some of my friends started texting me that they let out a huge groan when they saw him spoiled because they know he is going straight in my Urza list and my Zegana list.

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