Thran Vigil

Enchantment

Whenever one or more artifact and/or creature cards leave your graveyard during your turn, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Standard Brawl	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (36)

Last_Laugh on Marchesa Black Rose + Thran …

7 months ago

Thran Vigil triggers when a creature leaves the grave from Marchesa, the Black Rose's delayed trigger. Is the returning creature a valid target for Thran Vigil's +1+1 counter?

ermd on Oops! All female! Marchesa

7 months ago

MTG arena does it with persist just like DreadKhan thought. Arena lets the player choose targets after persist trigger fully resolved. So it's possible to put +1/+1 counters an the returned creature in arena (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEL2DdeNbw) 8:15 or 10:10. There also seems to be a common agreement that Persist + Thran Vigil + any Sac outlet would go infinite.

I'm curious. Putrid Goblin's persist ability and Marchesa, the Black Rose's ability looking similar to me. Last_Laugh why do they work that different?

ermd on Oops! All female! Marchesa

7 months ago

soo exciting. it's the very first recommendation i got on one of my decks :3

First things first:I think I should have given my deck description more love than i did. This one is fully on me. There is a little estethic subtheme I held back beside the theft theme. I try to essemble cards with strong and malicious female characters on it. Some of my card choices might seem suboptimal for this reason. So I'm even more thankful for all your great suggestions, Last_Laugh

• What do I miss on Thran Vigil? I'm pretty sure I'am able to put the +1/+1 counter on the same creature left the graveyard. It's no cast, right?
• Seize the Spotlight I like in particular for it's overtuned draw ability which I can ez justify not to be good-stuff since it looks thieving.
• I really like your advice on Gisa, Glorious Resurrector. wondered if she might be to mean for my playgroup but I''ll reevaluate this 'cos she fits so well.
• Anduril, Narsil Reforged is really interesting too. might consider this.

@wotc: Give Spark Double a female artwork and take all my money from me. and no love for regular-normal-guyish looking cards like Danny Pink.

Last_Laugh on Oops! All female! Marchesa

7 months ago

Nice deck but I do have a few suggestions for you.

Theft:

Gisa, Glorious Resurrector is far and away the best theft option available to Marchesa.

Captivating Crew is a repeatable theft effect.

Seize the Spotlight will rarely steal creatures... but that means you draw 3 cards essentially for free.

Alternate +1+1 Counter Sources:

Thran Vigil only works on your turn but this thing puts in some serious work if you're aggressively sac'ing stuff. Be aware that your final creature re-entering can't target itself so you need 2+ creatures re-entering for this card to do anything.

Vigean Graftmage looks underwhelming but it can come down before and immediately protect Marchesa and/or it's 2 free sacs per turn (itself + 1 other) to abuse etb's or death triggers (High Society Hunter, Grim Haruspex, Sower of Temptation, etc.)

I guess Spark Double goes here. This card seriously feels custom made for Marchesa. It either copies Marchesa for double Dethrone or it abuses your best etb/death triggers every turn thanks to that automatic +1+1 counter.

Anduril, Narsil Reforged is a bit pricier, but it lets you attack away from the Throne while still getting counters on attack. Drana, Liberator of Malakir is an acceptable alternative thanks to first strike getting those counters before regular combat damage but you do have to get through to an opponent.

Card Draw: Danny Pink is an absolute powerhouse here.

Anyways, let me know if you're picking up what I'm putting down or if you need help suggesting cuts. Feel free to check out my Marchesa list. It's etb/death trigger abuse and I've had the deck built for roughly 10 years now so I'm pretty familiar with all Marchesa's archetypes. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa to Love Them

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Oskar Graveyard

8 months ago

Quick headsup: You propably got Stick Together mixed up with another card.

Regarding cards to maybe consider:

Ill-Gotten Gains is a great card for many decks. You can use it for recursion, but it's also quite the house when used offensively. There are situations where this just tears any well-prepared plans your opponents might have had to shreds.

Containment Construct can be cheap redundancy if your commander is out of reach for some reason.

Thran Vigil can be another nifty payoff for cards leaving your grave.

Oversold Cemetery is easy reacursion.

Dread Return is a great reanimation spell for decks filling the yard.

Last_Laugh on Grixis Marchesa, The Black Rose

1 year ago

Nice deck, I love me some etb/death trigger abuse Marchesa. I do have some suggestions for you though and I'll break it down by card function.

Finisher:

Gray Merchant of Asphodel's lifegain seems counterproductive but with alternate sources of +1+1 counters your life total doesn't matter. In 9 years of running Marchesa, Gary has ended more games than any other card here and it's not remotely close. I personally recommend a clone suite to sac when he enters so they all reenter as Garys (Phantasmal Image, Flesh Duplicate, and Phyrexian Metamorph). Note that Imperial Recruiter abuse will look up Gary, Clones, and Bloodletter of Aclazotz in one go around the table.

Jokulhaups is a bit of a dick move, but it will end games since all your creatures come back to an empty board.

Alternate +1+1 Counters:

Anduril, Narsil Reforged is on attack and even gets counters on your fresh non-attacking stuff.

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed lets you abuse all your non-humans and he enables some infinite combos with Persist creatures.

Vigean Graftmage looks underwhelming but he comes down before and immediately protects Marchesa and he let's you abuse any etb/death trigger on everyone's turn (itself + 1 other).

Thran Vigil is only on your turn but this card still puts in serious work.

Metallic Mimic doesn't need a tribal deck here. When it first comes down you name humans or wizards to immediately protect Marchesa but you sac it to rename the type to your most abuseable etb/death trigger as needed.

Protection:

Ripples of Potential is a great answer to non-destroy wraths including Farewell.

Removal:

Canoptek Tomb Sentinel will hit anything non-land but most importantly it's an abuseable effect that hits enchantments.

Feel free to check out my list for ideas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated (especially since it'd be upvote #200). Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa to Love Them

Last_Laugh on Marchesa, the Black Rose

1 year ago

This is a good start, but I have several suggestions for you. I'll keep things budget friendly, break it down by card function, and if you'd like I can help suggest some cuts too.

Enchantment Removal: So you don't get caught with your pants down against effects like Solemnity/Rest in Peace. Feed the Swarm, Chaos Warp, and Canoptek Tomb Sentinel all deserve spots.

Alternate +1+1 Counter Sources: Sage of Fables/Vigean Graftmage come down before and immediately protect Marchesa. Sage let's you abuse any other wizard etb/death triggers every turn and Vigean allows you to abuse any 1 etb/death trigger (itself plus 1 other). Spark Double either copies Marchesa so they protect your board better and give double Dethrone triggers or it copies your best etb/death trigger every turn. Thran Vigil only works on your turn but works wonders here. Anduril, Narsil Reforged/Metallic Mimic are also great options but aren't as budget friendly (just sac Mimic to rename a creature type to whatever is most abuseable the time).

Card Draw: Danny Pink is a little more expensive but is absolutely nuts here. Lethal Scheme is card draw and surprise protection for anything without counters. Plumb the Forbidden in response to most non-destroy wraths will win games.

Feel free to check out my list for ideas. I run the same etb/death trigger abuse strat and have had Marchesa built for about 9 years now so if you have any questions, shoot. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated (especially since it'd be upvote #200!). Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa to Love Them

legendofa on Modern Horizons 3

1 year ago

Thran Vigil + Evolution Witness. There's gotta be something there. Put all artifacts and creatures from your graveyard into your hand and put that many +1/+1 counters on Evolution Witness.