Thran Vigil

Enchantment

Whenever one or more artifact and/or creature cards leave your graveyard during your turn, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Brawl	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (27)

Last_Laugh on Marchesa, the Black Rose

1 week ago

I have several suggestions for you. I'll keep things budget friendly and if you're picking up what I'm putting down, I can also help suggest some cuts.

First off is enchantment removal. There's hardly any options in th5ese colors but I recommend running all 3 so problematic enchantments like Solemnity or Rest in Peace don't wreck your day. Chaos Warp, Feed the Swarm, and Canoptek Tomb Sentinel are all budget friendly and worth their weight in gold here. Another good boardwipe here is Last One Standing.

I don't really do theft in my Marchesa list, but Gisa, Glorious Resurrector is the exception and holy crap does she put in some dirty work.

Next is card draw. Liliana's Standard Bearer, Lethal Scheme, Plumb the Forbidden, and Sage of Fables are all good budget options here. Sage will also come down before Marchesa and immediately give her or any other wizards you run a +1+1 counter. Plumb in response to boardwipes or right before your turn will refill your grip (instant speed and pseudo dodging counterspells makes this card). Also, Danny Pink's price has been sloooowly climbing but it's a very real possibility you'll find one in your LGS dollar binder and omg is this thing absolutely nuts!

On the subject of alternate sources of +1+1 counters... Thran Vigil only works on your turn but it'll get new counters on anything you stole and sac'ed on your turn. Vigean Graftmage let's you sac 2 creatures on everyone's turn (itself + whatever) to abuse etb/death triggers like Gray Merchant of Asphodel or even Grim Haruspex card draw. Spark Double I guess falls into this category and copies either Marchesa for double Dethrone or whatever your meanest etb/death trigger is at the time.

I'm also guessing Rakdos Locket was supposed to be Rakdos Signet.

Feel free to check out my list for ideas. It's far from budget friendly overall but I run everything I recommended. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa to Love Them

Last_Laugh on Marchesa's Undying Sac

2 months ago

Alternate sources of +1+1 counters enables you to sacrifice the same creatures on everyone's turn instead of once per round and being less reliant on attacking to get those counters is HUGE here. I run all these personally (except Drana, which got dropped for the sword).

Unspeakable Symbol gets used in response to removal or to abuse an etb/death trigger. Don't proactively put counters on everyone or you will run out of life quick. This card is quite simply amazing here when used correctly.

Sage of Fables immediately protects Marchesa and any other wizards you have.

Metallic Mimic typically names humans or wizards to protect Marchesa but the creature type can be reset with a simple sac.

Vigean Graftmage looks unassuming but he allows you to abuse any etb/death trigger on everyone's turn and it's 2 free triggers per turn for stuff like Grim Haruspex (itself and 1 other creature).

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is about as budget friendly as he'll ever be. It's well worth a spot if you splurge on occasion.

Uncivil Unrest is the best card printed for sacrifice Marchesa decks in a loooong time. This thing borderline feels like you're cheating somehow lol.

Anduril, Narsil Reforged if it's in your budget and/or Drana, Liberator of Malakir as a perfectly usable budget alternative. These both allow you to swing at any opponent instead of only attacking the highest life.

Thran Vigil only works on your turn, but it either protects your guys after you sac on your turn or it let's you sac them 1 more time on an opponent's turn.

Feel free to check out my list for inspiration. I've had Marchesa built for about 9 years now and I'm still loving the deck. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa to Love Them

Heavensgates on Marchesas' Thorns

4 months ago

Cmi1103 Those are some great comments and suggestions, thanks!

I either missed Anduril, Narsil Reforged or it was a bit out of my budget at the time I first saw it. A copy of it is on the way!

I used to have Thran Vigil, until it hit me that it was only a single +1/+1 counter, no matter how many cards come in and it was only on your turn. I cannot remember what I swapped it out for, but I am unwilling to use it, given its constraints. Had it been one counter per turn, I would still have it.

I will seriously consider Spark Double, so many legendary cards are worth copying, commander included, just gotta figure out what to dump for it.

Ashnod's Altar is in the deck, Goblin Bombardment will go in my thinking pile, free sacs are nice indeed.

I used to have Flayer of the Hatebound in the deck combined with Stalking Vengeance for a double whammy, but I took em out to go another direction.

I also like to walk the dangerous line of not being the one with the most lives, often not blocking attacks to drop my lives to activate dethrone. It's also why I use all those pain talismans. So Gray Merchant of Asphodel is not really an option I am willing to entertain.

Wish I had a Dockside Extortionist!

I stole your Danny Pink and am thinking on your Kardur, Doomscourge as well.

Looking through your decklist, I see you are using Mahadi, Emporium Master, an alternative could be Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge, same CMC, but he flies, does not require the black mana and is 5/4 instead of 3/3, downside is you need 4+ artifacts for him to attack and he will not spawn a treasure when tokens die.

Another interesting free sac outlet is Grimgrin, Corpse-Born, free sacs, adds +1/+1 counters on himself (and untaps!) and kills a target and buffs again when attacking.

Another interesting creature I toyed with that serves as a good defender and gives you perfect control of your life total (on the downside) is Mischievous Poltergeist, stops anything that is not trample or unblockable and survives many kinds of board wipes all while allowing you to drop your life total to the same level as the highest life total at instant speed!

Otherwise, Skullclamp, 1 mana for 2 extra card draws? Sign me up!

Thanks for the comments and the upvote and here is one back from me (I tried, but I get a 404 page when I click the button...)!

Last_Laugh on Roses of May -- (Marchesa Threaten)

4 months ago

Danny Pink is an amazing draw engine here. Between all the +1+1 counter effects like Uncivil Unrest, Sage of Fables, Thran Vigil, and Dethrone, this draw adds up fast.

Thran Vigil is limited to your turn but with theft Marchesa especially, this is less of an issue. Most of your thievery and subsequent sacrifices will happen on your turn and this ensures your newly acquired toys are immediately protected instead of being vulnerable for a turn cycle.

I'm surprised you don't run Gray Merchant of Asphodel over Kokusho. I run both personally but I can end games fast with Gary (clones and Saw in Half) but Kokusho may end up on the chopping block soon for me because not only is he a slower finisher, he's more expensive to cast. Meta call for lots of "no etb" effects?

Feel free to check out my list for ideas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa to Love Them

Cmi1103 on Marchesas' Thorns

4 months ago

Awesome! Few suggestions based on my experience with Marchesa in my deck: The Black Rose Never Dies. Thran Vigil and Anduril, Narsil Reforged are both insanely valuable to this deck so you can get more counters on creatures without always having to rely on Marchesa's Dethrone ability, especially late in the game! Spark Double is also incredible as it can become a copy of Marchesa due to the non-legend effect, to help protect your board state even more!

I'd also look at adding a few more valuable Sac Outlets such as Ashnod's Altar, Goblin Bombardment which are always free options to sacrifice at any time, plus they add extra value. You can never have too many.

A Few fun creatures to abuse etb and ltb that can really turn the game upside down are Flayer of the Hatebound, and Gray Merchant of Asphodel.

Also, Kudos on Hostage Taker! That was one of my favorite cards to run in this deck until I got my hands on Dockside Extortionist.

Marchesa is so fun! Love to hear your thoughts! and let me know if you have any other questions, or looking for suggestions on what to cut or anything like that! Enjoy!

Cmi1103 on Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa to Love Them

4 months ago

Recently added Danny Pink to my deck for insane card draw! Gets really crazy with Uncivil Unrest, Anduril, Narsil Reforged, Thran Vigil etc...

scotchtapedsleeves on Marchesa, Be Right Back

5 months ago

Thran Vigil is also effectively Uncivil unrest in Marchesa! The haste and protection on new creatures is nice on Unrest, but thran vigil goes way under the radar for most tables

legendofa on Black Rose's Ascension

7 months ago

Each creature created its own trigger, so if you have a Thran Vigil available, it's an auto-include.