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Land — Desert
: Add to your mana pool.
, Pay 1 life: Add to your mana pool.
, , Sacrifice a Desert: Put two -1/-1 counters on target creature an opponent controls. Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery.
Ifnir Deadlands Discussion
1 week ago
So I have the exact same manabase outside of Ifnir Deadlands because I use Phyrexian Tower instead and I was wondering what would you take out for a Bayou ? Hapatra is my favorite commander so I'd love to have a original dual for her.
3 weeks ago
Quag Vampires is a strictly better Plague Beetle, since it allows you to pump the creature, for each time it's kicked. Another consideration is lands which can be sacrificed Ghost Quarter , Shefet Dunes or Ifnir Deadlands come to mind...
I'm not a fan of Idyllic Tutor, the issue is, if you need to cast it, you are a turn slower, Costly Plunder or Night's Whisper let you dig through your deck and critically cost less mana. Still this is an interesting deck, so I wish you luck and hope my comment has helped.
1 month ago
DiverDown I had no idea they were fighting over you. Dang, would've been way more rude if that was the case, you are mine!
Jkjk, anyway, the whole discussion is pretty over, everyone has their veiwpoints, and I agree with many of them, in fact almost all of them, including Soren's, NoOne's, Diver/Down/Dango/Darknut/Daikazoku's, and n0bunga's.
Soren was probably getting a bit intense on the card's inclusion in Daxos, and while I have to say that it got out of hand, I understand the premise made.
NoOne is right though too, in a meta filled with threatenning lands, some decks could easily include a Strip Mine to have an answer, if their landbase can handle it.
Diver/Down/Dango/Darknut/Daikazoku is talking about loam decks, rare lists in EDH abusing a Life from the Loam , cycling lands that turn it into a hyper-powerful repeatable card draw engine, and lands with good effects like strip mine. Not super popular of a deck, so not exactly mainstream cEDH, but a deck that should run a strip mine.
N0bunga's argument felt okay, however a little weak in comparison. While yes a Frogger deck should use the beacon, it does it in a similar manner it would be run in a colorless deck. When a list can run bad lands because of not needing color fixing, or having tons of lands, cards that are generally low value like the beacon can be easily slot in. I don't play Frogger, so it may be much more valuable than I give credit, but it I am not imagining if it was replaced by another utility land that sacrifices for value, maybe a Ifnir Deadlands or anything else, the deck would be impacted a lot.
Lastly, NoOne, do you find thia discussion has been fruitful? It was me and you that went over these cards in particular, so I wonder if you found it helps. Good chat everyone!
1 month ago
Hm, well there needs to be more than just the 4 copies of Wanderer to reliably cast Smallpox with minimal downside. Sacrificing Ifnir Deadlands in response to Smallpox would not work since you don't choose which land you sac as you cast the card, but after it resolves; you'd just have to sacrifice a different land. That type of interaction works with a card that's worded like Boom though.
Personally I think Gary's effect is strong enough to warrant use, even if the deck isn't fully devoted to ending the game with him (see what I did there).
1 month ago
Thanks for the comment, hungry000! Ratchet Bomb does seem good for a sideboard once I build one. I kind of still like the idea of Smallpox, but I might not play it. It seems like I kind of have some ways to break the symmetry, namely Dread Wanderer, who can be discarded or sacced and recurred. Also, I’m pretty sure you could choose to sac Ifnir Deadlands as the land and then if you had enough mana sacrifice it in response so you could just use its ability and not sac another land. Ratchet Bomb might still be what I use, though.
I thought about Gary, but was somewhat driven away by the cmc. 5 is a little more than I like, and I feel like my deck isn’t fully optimized to use the card. It would probably be better with cards like Geralf's Messenger and other cards with a bit more devotion than I’m playing. Anyways, I’ll still try it out, just to see if it could be good as a 1-2 of finisher.
2 months ago
Read the Bones: Honestly, the place I need card draw in this deck is to rebuild after getting my board wiped, which is why I've emphasized permanents that provide consistent card draw rather than one-time effects. I have enough tutors in this deck that I rarely feel starved for cards.
Mask of Memory: Could be a very good idea! I'll test it here, I've loved it in several other decks. Not a fan of Skeleton Key or the auras - the former is just generally a bad card IMO, and when using the auras it's dangerously easy to get 2-for-1'd.
Bazaar of Baghdad: Yeah, no, not gonna pay that price tag. Not to mention that the deck isn't GY-focused enough to mitigate the card-negative aspect.
Skeletal Scrying: I think you're emphasizing the role of discard effects in this deck way too much. The deck doesn't put much in GY, and I don't like paying 1 mana per cards, especially with a highly conditional effect. I concur with OptimalGreen on this.
Whispersilk Cloak: Can be a good card in the right circumstance, and I've had it in this deck at certain points, but my current meta has more mass removal than spot removal. Probably won't help much at the moment.
Underrealm Lich and Izoni, Thousand-Eyed: I'm... not sure how either of these helps, at all? Neither does anything for my deck's goals, and they drive my curve into the stratosphere. Not a fan of such conditional, low-impact card draw.
Concordant Crossroads: I've considered it. But with my combos, Obelisk Spider or Blood Artist usually fulfill the same "win instantly" role, and are much easier to tutor for with my creature-specific green tutors. Note that this does NOT help with the Earthcraft/Squirrel Nest combo.
Viridian Corrupter: Another card that's been in and out at certain points. While the fact that he can't hit enchantments is a problem, the bigger issue is that people almost never attack me in this deck, unless they have flying (expendable, deathtouching snakes are a wonderful deterrent for attacks).
Fauna Shaman: Nah. Not repeatable, suffers from summoning sickness, dies to creature wipes and a couple global -1 counter placements.
Vedalken Orrery: I really do not like this card, honestly, especially since I need to cast certain spells before or after combat in this deck. People think it's good, but it just draws hate and gives little actual advantage. I'd rather run protective spells like Golgari Charm and Heroic Intervention.
Ad Nauseam: The issue here is that this deck has a lot of very high-cost spells that are meant to be cheated onto the battlefield (such as Craterhoof Behemoth). Ad Nauseam is best for decks with huge numbers of 0-drop spells, and I don't want to pay an average of 2.5 life per card, alas :/
Phyrexian Tower: I have considered this actually. Jury's out on whether Ifnir Deadlands is good enough - it's been intermittent, not bad - but the honestly bigger problem is that I hate the newer art on it.
Thank you both for your thoughts!
2 months ago
Forgot to add that since you've seemed not so happy with Ifnir Deadlands why not replace it with Phyrexian Tower? Saccing a snake, insect, or squirrel for two black mana sounds pretty good. It just got reprinted so now would be the time to strike. Could also sacc creatures like Eternal Witness, Soul Snuffers, or Channeler Initiate that have already done their jobs.
2 months ago
gdm1989: Honestly, it's just not worth the 9 mana to me; one copy of Hapatra is enough to go infinite ;)
goldlion: Thank you for the comment! I'm glad the deck seems interesting :D
In answer to your questions: Cryptolith Rite is one of the many cards on the maybeboard at the moment...I own a foil copy, and I know it would be fantastic in the deck, but I'm not sure what to cut for it...Any ideas? ;)
Pitiless Plunderer is an interesting thought, I hadn't considered that previously. I'll think on it! Black Market is probably too slow, I'm afraid, and honestly this deck doesn't have many good mana sinks for it (very low CMC curve overall, since I have ways to cheat in high-cost things like Craterhoof). Archfiend of Ifnir has proven to be pretty good, albeit somewhat conditional. Luckily, I can cycle him away if I don't have Survival of the Fittest or Generous Patron, so he never hangs out in my hand being useless. Thanks for your thoughts!
OptimalGreen: Full disclosure - while Exotic Orchard IS a good card, and fantastic-looking in foil, I accidentally forgot to order my fourth fetch. It's on its way now >.< and Ifnir Deadlands is...so-so, in my testing so far. The issue is that many times I want a basic Swamp for Earthcraft, and the 5 mana to get the 2 counters is pretty rough. Though, to be fair, I do like the cute synergy with Scavenger Grounds :3
Ifnir Deadlands occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.01%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%