Vicious Rumors deals 1 damage to each opponent. Each opponent discards a card, then puts the top card of their library into their graveyard. You gain 1 life.
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|Guilds of Ravnica (GRN)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Vicious Rumors occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.07%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Vicious Rumors Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, you're welcome.
To start, cards to consider cutting are lands since you don't need 41 lands in an Orzhov Commander deck especially since there's so many basic lands. Consider 36 lands? Next are creatures who don't have flying or other evasion.
You want to make some choices of the kind of creatures/theme you want to play. There's a small Vampire theme here with Captivating Vampire, Malakir Bloodwitch, etc. For these Vamps to be worth playing you need a lot more Vampires because without Vamps they don't really do much. There's many Vampires who have evasion therefore if you choose you could increase the Vamps a lot and make your deck more Vampire tribal then anything else.
A reason to cut the Vamps is there's many more nonVamp creatures that are better. Neither Tymna or Ravos are Vamps which makes the tribe overall less good, no tribal synergy with your Generals. If you choose to keep the Vamps then include a lot more of them or if not then cut them.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Vicious Rumors
- Toll of the Invasion
- Lich's Caress
- Righteous Blow
- Bloodsoaked Altar
- Burglar Rat
- Corpse Knight
- Daybreak Chaplain
- Martyr for the Cause
- Tattered Mummy
- Sanctum Custodian
- Charity Extractor
- Gallant Cavalry
- Relief Captain
- Intrusive Packbeast
- Knight of Sorrows
- Evra, Halcyon Witness
- Loxodon Restorer
- Bishop of the Bloodstained
- Baird, Steward of Argive
- Firemind Vessel
I would cut all these cards, doesn't matter what direction for your deck you choose to go. There's better budget options for each one of these cards. Some cards such as Corpse Knight are good, but it doesn't go with the current strategy therefore I would cut it.
I don't recommend the Vampire direction, but if you want to play Vamps then I do offer advice for that direction.
1 month ago
I've been playing this deck for a bit, and here are some changes I've made (moslty just personal taste):
Taken out Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage x2, I don't really find any good point to cast him, and the discard focus of the deck is definitely the weaker part. On the same note, I cut out Vicious Rumors and Burglar Rat, neither are even decent when the opponent has a large hand (which they probably will). I keep Drill Bit as a 2-of, though, with it always costing when Underworld is up.
I put in 1x Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted, having 2 ensures we draw him a bit more often, and having him + an Underworld Dreams is pretty much a guranteed 6 damage (in addition to destroying a creature, and more damage if he sticks around).
Lastly, I think moving to BW would be stronger. Losing Mind Erasure and Opt sucks, but the options that White and Orzhov give I think will make up for it (Kaya's Wrath, Mortify, Revival / Revenge maybe, Idyllic Tutor to get Underworld more easily?). Conclave Tribunal has caused me pain more than once, so having Moritfy + whatever else is good for enchantment removal. I haven't tested it, but I think it would be better to be a few more control tools for this type of deck, instead of the mild filtering Opt and Mind Erasure give.
Take all of this witha grain of salt though, I am by no means a good deckbuilder.
1 month ago
1 month ago
TrumpZone first of all thank you for the suggestions, I actually quite like Vicious Rumors . It allows for a discard and a mil, making up for the opponent getting to choose the discard. Not to mention it's a low cost way to trigger my Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank combo. Thoughtseize is mostly just in here because I have two of them to be honest.
Second the only reason I'm not running 4 of Glimpse the Unthinkable is the monetary value of the card. I am hoping to acquire a playset of them sooner or later though.
Also, I'd give yourself more credit as you gave all solid suggestions.
1 month ago
This is a very impressive deck - probably better than anything I'm really qualified to judge. As is, I'll just give suggestions where I see them.
Vicious Rumors and Raven's Crime are both very good 1 cost black discard cards that don't cost you life, unlike Thoughtseize . Vicious Rumors especially so, since it essentially discards two cards. You could even go for Despise if you want to be able to choose a specific card. Of course, if you really value the flexibility of Thoughtseize , I can see why you might want to keep it.
I also think you might be able to utilize Glimpse the Unthinkable . It's a great 2-cost discard card, and a great way to activate a lot of your effects and set off a chain reaction
2 months ago
hybridv21, your comments are in the white boxes. My responses are the plain text below them.
"put the legendary creature down to 3-of"
There are no legendary cards in the deck.
"add more slots to the 1-ofs or drop them."
Vicious Rumors is the only candidate. Another sweeper is likely.
"ritual of soot seems worse for you that your oppenents but I dont know your meta, have you considered Bile Blight?"
I linked to about 8000 matches with this deck. Even if you didn't watch them, the enemy deck type was listed.
"and leyline seems like a sideboard card, but once again, meta."
It's for mirror matches, and reanimator decks. See above answer.
2 months ago
thanks for the comment match_lighter! I agree, shizo is probably worth testing out.
As for Vicious Rumors , the vast majority of my Modern play lately has been playing 3-4 player multiplayer with my friends, so most of my modern decks (like this one) include some strange card choices I would never normally run in a modern deck. Vicious Rumors and Liliana's Triumph are in here because they can hit all of my opponents at once
2 months ago
'Tis indeed blessed perfection, looks solid! I am wondering why you play Vicious Rumors though, what is it contributing to your deck? It is very intriguing. Might you consider a Shizo, Death's Storehouse ? The storehouse provides near unblockability for the low low price of playing an honorary swamp. You might also consider Plague Myr a line like turn two myr into turn three Phyrexian Vatmother should send your opponent cowering in fear.
I am quite intrigued by your deck, carry on brewing fellow Phyrexian.