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Lookout's Dispersal
Instant
This spell costs less to cast if you control a Pirate.
Counter target spell unless its controller pays .
wallisface on uuu
2 months ago
Some thoughts:
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as a monocolored deck, there’s no point in running Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse, in fact as they make lands enter tapped, they actively hurt you by slowing you down.
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cards like Lofty Denial and Lookout's Dispersal are incredibly weak and unreliable - you’re better off running Mana Leak.
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your creature count is very high for a control deck, which will often mean you run out of ways to disrupt your opponent and get overwhelmed. Mist of your creatures are all incredibly underwhelming also, all being very small, easy to kill, and do-nothing. You would be far better-off running much less creatures, but then having those creatures that you do run be threatening, like Tolarian Terror.
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cards like Stern Dismissal, Unsummon, and Divide by Zero are all really, really bad in a control deck, as the archetype only really wins by attrition and card advantage, and these bounce spells are giving you card disadvantage - meaning you’ll run out of resources first and lose the game. If you’re having problems answering stuff on-board, you’re better-off with something like Witness Protection
broooja on ALL Counterspells in MTG
2 years ago
Stubborn Denial... Supreme Will... Thassa's Intervention... Whirlwind Denial... Spell Shrivel... Metallic Rebuke... Mindswipe... Malevolent Hermit Flip... Mausoleum Wanderer... Make Disappear... Lose Focus... Revolutionary Rebuff... Mystical Dispute... Miscast... Mirrorshell Crab... Admiral's Orders... Lookout's Dispersal... Jwari Disruption Flip... Countervailing Winds... Concerted Defense... Decisive Denial... Geistlight Snare... Reject ... Quench... Clash of Wills... Calculated Dismissal... Anticognition...
multimedia on Pirates a'hoyyyyyyy
2 years ago
Hey, nice version, but where's Glint-Horn Buccaneer? I saw your deck in the featured decks ad.
You can improve on balancing card quality since you have some amazing cards here, but also quite a few lackluster ones that are much lower on power level compared to the others. An example is Scalding Tarn which is excellent, but not playing a dual land that Tarn can search for... Steam Vents could replace Izzet Guildgate and Volatile Fjord could replace Highland Lake. Other Izzet dual lands to add in place of some basic lands to improve color fixing from lands: Training Center, Cascade Bluffs, Sulfur Falls, Stormcarved Coast and Frostboil Snarl.
I don't think I've even seen Armillary Sphere in the same deck before that also has Mana Drain, Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer, Jeweled Lotus, Dockside Extortionist, Goldspan Dragon, Jeska's Will and Urza's Saga. Sphere is really out of place power wise. Consider cutting Sphere for Arcane Signet? The Diamonds are also subpar, considering cutting both of them for Talisman of Creativity and Izzet Signet? These are not expensive changes, but can make a big improvements on ramp.
Another example of card quality balance are the counterspells. Mana Drain, Counterspell, Pact of Negation, Negate are great thus you don't also need to play Hornswoggle, Admiral's Order and even Lookout's Dispersal because these are not as good.
Some more one drop/two drop flying Pirates and unblockable Pirates can more easily trigger Malcolm and Breeches. Spectral Sailor, Warkite Marauder, Departed Deckhand could replace some higher mana cost Pirates such as Captain Ripley Vance, Deadeye Quartermaster, Prosperous Pirates and Sailor of Means. You have Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer, Dockside Extortionist, Goldspan Dragon and Corsair Captain which are all excellent thus you don't really need to play other Pirates that create treasures when they ETB because those cards are not as good.
Wonder and Anger are powerful with Pirates, but they need help to get them into your graveyard because you don't want to ever cast them. Expanding with more loot can help to draw/discard them that also adds more draw to your deck. Faithless Looting, Windfall, Mask of Memory and Frantic Search could replace Mutiny, Hornswoggle, Dowsing Dagger Flip and Admiral's Order. These changes are also not expensive and improve card quality.
Good luck with your deck.
tiffanyann on Unique Commanders
3 years ago
Oh God here we go.
Brine Hag WTF IS THIS
Dire Fleet Ravager YES.
Elaborate Firecannon MUST INCLUDE
Fathom Fleet ANYTHING
Forerunner of the Coalition COP DFR
Gyruda, Doom of Depths SHOULD WE DO ALL EVEN HAHA NO
Joedragon3 on ExpelliARRRmus
4 years ago
Ay yo, this isnt the best list but it's what i've got being quick about it:
OUT:
- Thran Dynamo
- Syr Konrad, the Grim
- Pyreheart Wolf
- Izzet Chronarch
- Helium Squirter
- Goblin Electromancer
- Flux Channeler
- Forerunner of the Coalition
- Dire Fleet Daredevil
- Dire Fleet Poisoner
- Deadeye Plunderers
- Crafty Cutpurse
- Brazen Buccaneers
- Contract Killing
- March of the Drowned
- Sleep
- Hornswoggle
- Lookout's Dispersal
- Siren's Ruse
- Kefnet's Monument
IN:
- Talisman of Creativity
- Talisman of Dominance
- Talisman of Indulgence
- Arcane Signet
- Dimir Signet
- Izzet Signet
- Rakdos Signet
- Woe Strider
- Yahenni, Undying Partisan
- Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch
- Grim Haruspex
- Viscera Seer
- Drana, Liberator of Malakir
- Zealous Conscripts
- River Kelpie
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Puppeteer Clique
- Glen Elendra Archmage
- Mulldrifter
- Dreadhorde Butcher
- Cytoplast Manipulator
- Toothy, Imaginary Friend
- Olivia, Mobilized for War
- Ravenous Chupacabra
- Counterspell
- Bedevil
- Domineering Will
- Vandalblast
- Last One Standing
- Decree of Pain
- Kari Zev's Expertise
- Chain Reaction
I know there are more INs than OUTs but i didn't want to just try to tell you everything to take out - it's your choices!
Jrm99 on Treasures of Ixalan
5 years ago
Marionette Master is another good win condition. Looks like you’re staying away from counters but Lookout's Dispersal is a great counter for pirates, Spell Swindle and Hornswoggle are also good counters that also create treasure.
Marchiali on Help me create a pirate …
5 years ago
So back when pirates of ixalan were released no one really played them because of the mana base, at least not in Grixis. Right now the mana base is solid enough to technically make them work.
What I am trying to do right now is creating a deck where all cards fit into the pirate theme while still staying somewhat competitive. It doesn't have to win all the time but having a chance against burn and Teferi would be nice.
It... hasn't really worked out so far. Is such a deck even possible?
The most success I had so far was basically Tempo Blue with some splashing for Grixis so your flying pirates benefit from effects like Dire Fleet Neckbreaker and Fell Flagship .
With cards like Siren's Ruse , Lookout's Dispersal and of course Siren Stormtamer you have decent disruption, I have even been experimenting with adding more discard like Duress or Heartless Pillage . The latter is pretty great as far as discard spells go since it is effectively CMC 2. Cancel , Hornswoggle , Admiral's Order and Spell Swindle are pirate themed but not worth including in my opinion.
As for Lifegain your choices in a pirate theme deck are basically limited to Fountain of Renewal and Navigator's Compass . Compass is actually not that bad since it let's you fix your mana base without handing aggro decks a free 2 damage. (I am making an exception to the theme rule for Shocklands)
Admiral Becket Brass is a great flavor card but usually when you can hit your opponent with 3 pirates they are either dead or would be if you had dropped a Dire Fleet Neckbreaker instead of the Admiral.
The real problem with pirates seems to be that they want to go fast since their late game sucks but they have basically no advantage over mono red or blue other than tribal synergies. And their tribal synergies aren't that great, most of them are not even available until turn 4 or 5.
For Removal there are some options: Walk the Plank is great flavor although a bit hard to cast. Hostage Taker and the Admiral are decent for dealing with Teferi but not that amazing. Lightning Strike , Makeshift Munitions (bombarding your opponent with treasures is hilarious) and Fiery Cannonade are your go-to burn spells.
There are some good red combat tricks as well as Dire Fleet Poisoner but I am kinda on the edge concerning those. Buccaneer's Bravado on an unblocked creature with decent power can close out games.
Card Draw can be provided by Curious Obsession (a bit tricky when you are also running Siren's Ruse), Chart a Course and maybe Treasure Map Flip and Dead Man's Chest . March of the Drowned could also be very valuable since it only costs 1 mana.
Like I said the best creatures seem to be the pirates that either have very good tribal synergy or flying. I am considering Fathom Fleet Captain and Forerunner of the Coalition but they both seem to be too slow. When you have a lot of treasures getting the city's blessing for an early extra turn via Timestream Navigator isn't too hard but I haven't really profited from it that much.
Revel in Riches is an interesting wincon but just too slow. Maybe an option for a more control-based approach. But when you have lots of treasures out it seems to be more viable to cast Mnemonic Betrayal , which technically isn't a pirate spell but looks like one. Or use overpriced Cards like Pirate's Prize that create more treasures.
With all that knowledge I still can't figure out a decent pirate deck, am I missing something? I am aware that you got to concentrate on some mechanics to make them work but I am not sure on which ones.
I really want to make pirates work before they rotate out and possibly never return to Standard.
EDIT: Just noticed there is also a token-based approach with Fathom Fleet Captain and Vraska, Relic Seeker
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