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Highland Lake enters the battlefield tapped.
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Highland Lake Discussion
3 weeks ago
Aight- I'ma walk through a few options and cards. Your list looks good, but there are some cute and inexpensive wizard synergies that can make this kind of list run better- I hope it helps.
Usually more spell pierce/Negate or similar outperform Wizard's Retort. The turns you want it, you're mostly hitting instants or sorceries at instant speed to protect your damage. Similarly, Izzet Boilerworks is good because it effectively increases the number of lands in your hand- which is great with Magmatic Insight, but the cost of a land being tapped in a tempo deck cannot be understated. I'd play islands in preference, but Highland Lake is the more pressing change- I'd consider a shift to Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse and a couple more islands.
It plays nice with Opt and helps you find the lands you need, and set up your draws- on a budget manabase that counts for a lot, and when you can shuffle away those cards you get a lot of consistancy. Consistancy in a deck isn't expensive to set up, and with a lot of high-cost decks outplaying themselves with high variance cards it will get you wins. Make your opponents work to beat your average hand.
Think Twice triggers prowess twice, and is instant-speed carddraw. I much prefer it to insight, because instant speed holding up counters is very relevant against most decks.
Finally, plan your sideboard alongside your deck. Those 15 cards are super relevant, and planning them to work well with your maindeck is what sets apart a mediocre budget list from a great one. What hate you mainboard and what you keep sideboard can free up 3-4 slots in the average list, and sometimes a lot more.
3 months ago
Yea I think so, I think tap lands like Highland Lake should be worth -1 points? While fetches and shocks should be 3-4
3 months ago
Highland Lake also run more then 33 god damn lands, Pyromancer's Goggles can come out, Bident of Thassa can come out for a deck like this you want competetive cards thats not it, Hammer of Purphoros trade for Lightning Greaves i'll get you a pair, Overwhelming Denial is not a good counterspell, Quietus Spike trade for a Basilisk Collar.
3 months ago
4 months ago
I think it looks functional. I would swap one of each equipment you have for lands, probably a mountain and an island each if you don't have things like Highland Lake, and take it to the testing table.
We could sit here all day recommending awesome cards 'till we're blue in the face, but if you don't have them, you don't have them. I feel if you make that one change, you'll have a serviceable thematic deck for kitchen table games.
4 months ago
Since this is EDH, you can’t have more than one copy of a card, so you can’t have 2 Highland Lake’s or 3 Swiftwater Cliffs in the same deck. Also, 32 lands is well below the average amount of lands for an EDH deck (average being around 36-38) but if it works then feel free to keep it.
4 months ago
Very interesting approach!
I ran some simulated games with it last night and verified that it can work (though the particular decks I ran it against are hopeless before sideboarding in River's Rebuke and Sweltering Suns). After the first couple trials I subbed out Evolving Wilds and Highland Lake for the Izzet duals, since I personally already have them for my main Standard deck. As you might expect, it helps a lot.
Did you go creatureless just because it's awesome, or did you not think there was room? I tried throwing in a one-of Squee, the Immortal for infinite chump blocks and as an alternate wincon once the board is under control. I also wondered how Cold-Water Snapper or Soul of the Rapids might do as a one-of for late game. If you know you can resolve it, then you don't have to worry about using the 4th Fight with Fire as a board wipe and ending up decking out without a way to finish the opponent off. I haven't tried it out yet. Maybe The Mirari Conjecture to land a 5th copy for 20??
Maybe I'm not doing it right, but Syncopate never seemed to work before or after turn 2. With no blockers, every threat has to be answered quickly, and if opponent has more lands than us (or is on the play) there's no way to answer low-mana threats. Late-game, you need to exile lands with Precognition Field to draw into more spells, and opponent naturally pulls ahead on land count. I'm used to playing Condescend in U Tron, so I thought I'd understand the play pattern, but it definitely could be user error on my part.
The biggest problem I ran into was indestructible threats. The best I could do was bounce them, but since this is not a quick-finish deck (and I wasn't successfully countering them on the replay) that didn't work. I guess Essence Scatter could be a solution, but you'll get 2-for-1'ed a lot. Maybe Deep Freeze could be a good budget removal piece for those threats?