Nadir Kraken

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Nadir Kraken

Creature — Kraken

Whenever you draw a card, you may pay . If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Nadir Kraken and create a 1/1 blue Tentacle creature token.

wallisface on Krakens

1 year ago

BurningSparrow my issue with Thing in the Ice  Flip was not how easy/hard it would be to flip - but that flipping it hurts you. It removes all your other creatures from play, none of which are particularly low-costing to cast (and none of which have etbs that would make you want to recast them). Furthermore, it permanently removes all the tokens generated from Nadir Kraken or Ominous Seas. I can see a lot of scenarios where your opponent lets it flip just to reset your own board-state, and then Fatal Pushes it afterwards.

Coward_Token on Brother's War Spoilers

1 year ago

Good catch on Symmetry Matrix not just working with nontokens; your combo made me think of Marneus Calgar + Nadir Kraken

PinnedPhoenix on Nadir Kraken

1 year ago

hi!

so first thing: your deck's not Modern legal. not that this should deter you, but basically some cards are printed in sets meant for other formats. if you're wedded to Modern, you'll have to make some substitutions. Counterspell instead of Mana Drain, for example.

that said, I'd encourage you to just call it a Casual deck. there's nothing wrong with it. you're not powergaming; for example, Fishliver Oil isn't a gamebreaking card by any means, but it's fun and whimsical. I don't think you're doing any harm to your playgroup by running the cards you're running here, even if a few like Rhystic Study are quite powerful!

is there a big payoff for cards like Temple of the False God and Spreading Seas? That Spreading Seas is a cantrip certainly works well with Nadir Kraken. But it seems to me you don't have any big "I want to sink a lot of mana here" cards in this build. consider substitutions if you're not particularly attached to them!

lastly, consider running snow lands and some fun cards like Icebreaker Kraken and Marit Lage's Slumber. they're good, fun cards, and they fit the flavor of your deck well.

good luck!

flowersforjane on Kraken Control

1 year ago

wallisface Thank you for the advice! I also posted this deck to Reddit, and the consensus I got was that Nadir Kraken is way too slow to survive in any sort of meta. I definitely can see this, and from feedback I've gotten it seems as if I'd have better luck playing Pioneer, Standard, or Draft starting out. With that said, I'd love to attempt to play my first FNM this week just for the experience, and I've changed some cards around your suggestions/what I have available! If you have any more suggestions I would very very much appreciate it as well.

The only cards I haven't taken out/slightly changed are Artful Dodge and Swiftfoot Boots. The former I swapped with Aqueous Form, because in casual games I've played with my friends, I've often found myself with a 20-21 or higher Nadir Kraken, yet I can't manage to break through chump blockers. The latter, Swiftfoot Boots, I've always tried to play when I have enough mana for it and a counter. I guess both have helped in casual games so far, but if you have pointers as to why either card might not work as well as I thought I'll absolutely remove them.

multimedia on

2 years ago

Hey, thanks for the upvote at my Krothuss deck :)

How are you liking the heavy sea monster theme? Heartless Summoning is really neat tech. I started with this kind of theme, but switched quickly because I found that Spawning, Hullbreaker, Winder and Yawning are far away better than all other 6 CMC plus sea monsters. Playing others felt not needed compared to lots of other cards I could be playing, essentially more support.

Since you're playing lots of high CMC creatures consider expanding on enablers for reanimation?

Obsessive Stitcher is first a looter then it can reanimate at instant speed which is important to be able to attack with the creature you reanimate for attacking Krothuss to copy. Stitcher and Entomber both survive Heartless. Vile Entomber is a creature who Krothuss can copy. It's deathtouch lets it basically freely attack and having a repeatable Entomb effect is very good for reanimation and Wonder. The first time it attacks to be copied simply get Wonder while in combat.


Now that there's Hullbreaker combo I don't think Kederekt Leviathan is needed since it wrecks you too. Bouncing Krothuss and all tokens seems counter productive when there's many other effects to tap down or bounce permanents that only affect opponents.

Obsessive Stitcher can do more for Runo as well as Krothuss then Nadir Kraken. Nadir is fine because it's a Kraken, but do you really need it's effects? Creating 1/1 Tentacle tokens doesn't seem that good and has negative interaction with Heartless. If Tentacles triggered Spawning then that's a reason to play Nadir, but they don't. I also don't like that any counters that are on Nadir aren't copied when Krothuss makes token copies of Nadir.

Good luck with your deck.

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